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A Mini-Me gain question:
« on: June 18, 2004, 10:51:11 AM »
I just got my Mini-Me this week and was testing everything this morning. I'm taping the Dead at Red Rocks tonight, probably in the rain.
The first thing I did was change the internal jumpers to the LOW gain setting.
With my Josephson/MBHO's I have to turn the gain up to around the 5 o'clock position to get the levels I need.
Does this sound normal? When my Oktava's I set the gain at 1 o'clock to get the same levels.
I'm wondering If I should re-set the internal jumpers?
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Re: A Mini-Me gain question:
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2004, 11:21:57 AM »
if youre levels are that low, i would!!

whats the jumper, 20db?
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Re: A Mini-Me gain question:
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2004, 11:26:34 AM »
if youre levels are that low, i would!!

whats the jumper, 20db?

It doesn't say how much the padding is in the LOW setting.
I was PMing Marc and he told me he has a buddy that runs his gain pretty high with the MBHO's.
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Re: A Mini-Me gain question:
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2004, 11:30:54 AM »
marc would def know more than me on that thing, whatever werks, you can always normalize i guess and run more conservatively.....
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Re: A Mini-Me gain question:
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2004, 11:36:56 AM »
set it to lo gain and LEAVE IT THERE. different mics have all kinds of sensitivity levels. I doubt you had it that loud in your living room, or whatever.

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Re: A Mini-Me gain question:
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2004, 11:46:32 AM »
what Marc said...

congrats on the new gear!
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Re: A Mini-Me gain question:
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2004, 05:42:57 PM »
I just got my Mini-Me this week and was testing everything this morning. I'm taping the Dead at Red Rocks tonight, probably in the rain.
The first thing I did was change the internal jumpers to the LOW gain setting.
With my Josephson/MBHO's I have to turn the gain up to around the 5 o'clock position to get the levels I need.
Does this sound normal? When my Oktava's I set the gain at 1 o'clock to get the same levels.
I'm wondering If I should re-set the internal jumpers?

Stick with what Marc said...LOW GAIN.  The Octava's just seem to run hotter, needing less gain.

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Re: A Mini-Me gain question:
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2004, 01:01:15 PM »
Well, I broke it in last night.
No problems using the LOW gain setting and just cranking the levels.

Thanks guys.
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Re: A Mini-Me gain question:
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2004, 01:40:46 PM »
Well, I broke it in last night.
No problems using the LOW gain setting and just cranking the levels.

Thanks guys.

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Re: A Mini-Me gain question:
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2004, 01:50:22 PM »
Does the jumper change anything dealing with the line in, i have to push my v2 pretty hard and actually clipped the tom's at moe a couple weeks ago cause i had the calpots cranked as far as they will go and had the red lights on the v2 poppin like crazy, anyone know, im guessing the line in doesnt change with the jumper setting
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Re: A Mini-Me gain question:
« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2004, 02:48:06 PM »
actually, I don't think it does affect line in, might have misspoke in a prior post. Problem is, running it all the way open means you can't supply much outboard gain. I'd say if you run the screw pots wide open, you can't send more than 15 db's, not a surprise you clipped the mme. gotta calibrate at home to absolutely avoid being able to clip the mme.

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Re: A Mini-Me gain question:
« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2004, 03:23:54 PM »
Does the jumper change anything dealing with the line in, i have to push my v2 pretty hard and actually clipped the tom's at moe a couple weeks ago cause i had the calpots cranked as far as they will go and had the red lights on the v2 poppin like crazy, anyone know, im guessing the line in doesnt change with the jumper setting
The jumpers should not affect the line in...it is for mic in only.  Try turning down the V2 till the red lights stop popping  :o  You should also calibrate your V2 MME line in ....you will be happier for it.  that way you can 86 the cal pot action and use the V2's controls.  Were the MME red's popping?

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Re: A Mini-Me gain question:
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2004, 03:27:36 PM »
but you actually have to work to clip the mme, I generally shoot for mostly greens, common -2 yellows, and a few reds don't bug me. pretty damn easy to clip a v2, though, analog clipping sucks.

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Re: A Mini-Me gain question:
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2004, 04:06:01 PM »
but you actually have to work to clip the mme, I generally shoot for mostly greens, common -2 yellows, and a few reds don't bug me. pretty damn easy to clip a v2, though, analog clipping sucks.
ya, it's pretty forgiving......I like to see the yellows peak out a bit (glow).  That way it's set and forget.
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Re: A Mini-Me gain question:
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2004, 04:34:06 PM »
pretty much if I never hit yellows/a few reds, I know I've just run pussy levels.

 

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