Topic: DIN vs ORTF?

[Gutbucket]

I think that's about it.

I'm trying to get a better understanding of the why's, when's and how's.

These types of threads were a large part of I was looking for when I first started lurking around TS years ago.  I enjoy them, and tend to get even more long-winded than normal in attempting to clearly explain the basic relationships of the "why" part.  The more interesting and valuable approach for me has usually been trying to understand the "why" and setting up things based around those insights, rather than setting things up based on standard conventions.  Sometimes standard convention is appropriate and has become the standard for good reason, yet sometimes there may be better ways of doing things if you have a strong understanding of the basic “why” relationships and can figure out how to apply that appropriately. 

Acidjack summed up the "when" succinctly in his last post.  The "how" part simply translates to the application of whatever you take away from all this.

Hope that helps.  If you have questions I'll try to answer them the best I can. 

[rjp]

Those stereo zoom things are useful theoretical guides but are not guides to recording amplified PA systems at rock concerts from a distance, FWIW. It's good to understand the concepts, though, so you can better understand what you are doing in practice.

On the other hand, if what you're recording is purely acoustic (e.g. an orchestra, an a cappella chorus, a string trio, etc.), they're a great place to start.

[lastubbe]

Recording rock and roll concerts open air off a PA in a decent room reasonably close to the sound source, IMO ORTF beats DIN 99% of the time.

[F.O.Bean]

I use DIN for my mk4s MUCH MORE than I use ORTF. DIN is more focused and evenly balanced in most cases IMO. YMMV. I have the active bars, so I can easily run DINa/DIN/NOS/ORTF/WideORTF. I run mk4/DIN 99% of the time. And mk41/DINa 99% of the time. I can honestly say that I'm consistently happy running those configs. I run mk4/ORTF usually at stage-lip or onstage. This may sound weird, but when I had my MBHO's back in the day, I would run Hypers/NOS occassionally if I was pretty close and DFC. I need to try that with my mk41s. I bet it sounds good up close! Ive been meaning to run my mk4s/NOS too, but I keep my NOS bar in my mk41 bag for some reason I used to run my mk21s/NOS. That seemed to be the best config for the mk21s the few times I ran them!

It really just comes down to trying them out and finding what you like best

[ButchAlmberg]

Thanks fellas. Some really good information here. Hope no one minds if I give it a bump.