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Title: LCT Subzero Large-diaphragm cardioid
Post by: jerryfreak on May 28, 2019, 09:31:12 PM
came across this on another board

interesting specs

https://www.lewitt-audio.com/microphones/lct-recording/lct-540-subzero
Title: Re: LCT Subzero Large-diaphragm cardioid
Post by: heathen on May 29, 2019, 09:15:00 AM
The polar graph gets pretty weird in the high frequencies.  It goes from subcard-ish at the low frequencies to I-don't-even-know-what at the highest frequencies.  It might be good for its intended use, vocals, but I wouldn't be in a hurry to try it in a concert taping situation.
Title: Re: LCT Subzero Large-diaphragm cardioid
Post by: DSatz on May 31, 2019, 11:41:12 PM
Yup. Typical of large, dual-diaphragm microphones with a single, shared backplate between the two membranes (late 1920s-style U 47-type capsule, as opposed to the more modern, i.e. mid-1960s-style, U 67/87 type, which is assembled as two independent "half-capsules" and then combined).

They must have paid a lot for the writing on this Web site, is all I can say. Such smooth words.

Well, also I can repeat my mantra, that when a manufacturer tells you the application(s) that a microphone was designed for, believe them! Studio vocals call for very nearly the opposite characteristics from semi-distant stereo main microphone recording in several key respects.

--best regards
Title: Re: LCT Subzero Large-diaphragm cardioid
Post by: pohaku on June 01, 2019, 08:55:08 AM
But, but, but it’s cutting-edge and forward-thinking and fine-grained!  I think my pants are too tight.
Title: Re: LCT Subzero Large-diaphragm cardioid
Post by: jerryfreak on June 03, 2019, 05:11:10 AM
The polar graph gets pretty weird in the high frequencies.  It goes from subcard-ish at the low frequencies to I-don't-even-know-what at the highest frequencies.

whoa i didnt even know that graph was interactive i thought it was just some generic cardiod pattern shown
Title: Re: LCT Subzero Large-diaphragm cardioid
Post by: voltronic on June 03, 2019, 06:14:29 AM
They must have paid a lot for the writing on this Web site, is all I can say. Such smooth words.

I didn't bother to read the website until you posted this.  Wow.  Sometimes I think marketing departments get paid by the adjective.  One of my favorite bits:

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"As a result, a way of experiencing sound at infinite depth and absolute precision came to life; its name, the LCT 540 SUBZERO."

 :lol:

Well, also I can repeat my mantra, that when a manufacturer tells you the application(s) that a microphone was designed for, believe them! Studio vocals call for very nearly the opposite characteristics from semi-distant stereo main microphone recording in several key respects.


Yes, but this one then goes straight to hand-waving that away.  It's a vocal mic!  I mean... you can put that sauce on anything!

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// First and foremost designed to be an outstanding vocal microphone.
 
// Naturally, thanks to its specifications, it is suitable for almost any application.
Title: Re: LCT Subzero Large-diaphragm cardioid
Post by: jerryfreak on June 03, 2019, 06:23:14 AM
Well, also I can repeat my mantra, that when a manufacturer tells you the application(s) that a microphone was designed for, believe them!

"Naturally, thanks to its specifications, it is suitable for almost any application."  ;D
Title: Re: LCT Subzero Large-diaphragm cardioid
Post by: EmRR on June 03, 2019, 07:49:25 AM
They seem overly enamoured with low self noise in a mic aimed at close vocal recording. 
Title: Re: LCT Subzero Large-diaphragm cardioid
Post by: DSatz on June 03, 2019, 04:11:05 PM
now that you-all have made me look again--they get a crucial word wrong in a fundamental way.

"dampen" = to make wet or moist

vs.

"damp" (as a verb) = to restrain vibratory motion

(unless they mean that the microphone becomes wet when stimulated properly ...)
Title: Re: LCT Subzero Large-diaphragm cardioid
Post by: voltronic on June 03, 2019, 07:57:40 PM
now that you-all have made me look again--they get a crucial word wrong in a fundamental way.

"dampen" = to make wet or moist

vs.

"damp" (as a verb) = to restrain vibratory motion

Both are correct.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dampen (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dampen)
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/dampen (https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/dampen)
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/dampen (https://www.thefreedictionary.com/dampen)

(unless they mean that the microphone becomes wet when stimulated properly ...)

Well played. :clapping:
Title: Re: LCT Subzero Large-diaphragm cardioid
Post by: jerryfreak on June 03, 2019, 08:39:11 PM
well now we know what the kidzzzz were talking about when they said they only patch into the 'dank' microphones
Title: Re: LCT Subzero Large-diaphragm cardioid
Post by: DSatz on June 07, 2019, 08:57:18 PM
voltronic, I don't think that the dictionaries reflect the usage of most educated writers on this topic, which is what I mostly go by.

Of course I don't consider someone an educated writer if we disagree about usage ...

--best regards to you and to Mahler

Title: Re: LCT Subzero Large-diaphragm cardioid
Post by: voltronic on June 07, 2019, 09:40:58 PM
voltronic, I don't think that the dictionaries reflect the usage of most educated writers on this topic, which is what I mostly go by.

That's fair.  The OED has allowed some absolutely ridiculous things in over recent years.  I suspect they will do anything to stay relevant.
Title: Re: LCT Subzero Large-diaphragm cardioid
Post by: Chilly Brioschi on October 10, 2019, 05:19:57 AM
Has anyone  played with the multi-pattern LCT441?
I assume it is yet another C414 knockoff, but wondering ...
Title: Re: LCT Subzero Large-diaphragm cardioid
Post by: TSNéa on October 11, 2019, 05:12:01 AM
https://www.soundonsound.com/search/all/Lewitt

FWIW.