Topic: Real Time V3 vs. Aerco Comp

[L Ron Hoover]

Thanks, and thanks for the comp. I'm an idiot and didn't realize the the first and second were different. My above comments were for the first. The second comp sounds almost identical to me with maybe a slight bit more separation in the second source.

[stevetoney]

So, let's say this comp goes up as a blind test.  Are all you guys that are saying that you hear clear differences between these two preamp tests such that you'd immediately know that the source switches between preamps every 30 seconds?

I mean, I guess I don't have that great a listening system sitting here on my computer (external Extigy soundcard into a pair of $120 Sony cans), because I just don't hear it except for the fact that there's a tiny level change in the second source every 30 seconds. 

However, I can't get that much volume out of my computer desktop system.  When you guys listen to these comps, are you listening at really high volume?

[rich]

i would have to say NO on the first sample tune.  in fact, i had no idea what was going on until minute two and reviewing the comparison verbiage.  second sample tune is deffinitely more noticeable to my ears.

rich

[L Ron Hoover]

i would have to say NO on the first sample tune.  in fact, i had no idea what was going on until minute two and reviewing the comparison verbiage.  second sample tune is deffinitely more noticeable to my ears.

rich

Wow. I would have to say exactly the opposite. Listening with the headphones, I could clearly hear the switch in the first sample. In the second, if it was not established that the sources changed at thirty second intervals I wouldn't have known the difference.

[willndmb]

i would have to say NO on the first sample tune.  in fact, i had no idea what was going on until minute two and reviewing the comparison verbiage.  second sample tune is deffinitely more noticeable to my ears.

rich

Wow. I would have to say exactly the opposite. Listening with the headphones, I could clearly hear the switch in the first sample. In the second, if it was not established that the sources changed at thirty second intervals I wouldn't have known the difference.

same here
the first i could clearly hear a difference - i wouldn't have known which was whioch blind however
track 2 i could hear slight differences but i had to realllllly listen
if i didn't know it switched sources i prob wouldn't have ever noticed

[tgakidis]

I think the main reason you can tell the change in the first sample is that they are two seperate recorders with different time clocks.  I tried to stretch/line them up, but you never can get them exactly perfect (I use sony vegas pro).  The second sample is using the R-4 so they line up perfectly.  Sometimes on both samples, mostly the first, during the change you can hear a slight "pop/click".  Smokin' Joe showed me this trick and I feel it is the best way to listen and truly hear a comp.

http://www.turtleside.com/misc/Aerco-V3-comp/Aerco.vs.V3digi.Primeordia.flac

http://www.turtleside.com/misc/Aerco-V3-comp/Aerco.vs.V3analog.Hottentot.flac

This time it switches every 15 seconds and you guess which is which.