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Re:Building a home stereo
« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2004, 12:08:07 PM »
yes, MG3a's for $750 is a good deal if they are in good condition - they retailed for >$2k.

FYI, I've come across a few used IIIa's for around $700, so $750 is a bit on the high side.

Also, you should go over to the Planar Speaker Asylum and search "IIIA" - you'll get posts on power requirements, tweaks, stands, cross-overs, etc.

http://www.audioasylum.com/forums/MUG/bbs.html

Good luck with your decisions and have fun with the new system!
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Re:Building a home stereo
« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2004, 05:21:09 PM »
For something completely different, try an all tube integrated.  I have a Cayin TA30 on order from www.2baudio.com, $600 stock, $850 with some tweaks (Auricaps, external bias, adjustable feedback).  30 wpc push-pull, can take EL34, KT88, KT66, EL37, 6L6 and 5881 output tubes (very cool) and convert to a 4 wpc single-ended class A amp by simply removing 2 output tubes and adjusting the bias (also very cool).  I'll post a review in a few weeks.

http://www.goodsound.com/equipment.shtml

thanks Craig, that looks pretty cool.
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Re:Building a home stereo
« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2004, 05:54:47 PM »
I came across a "used" Panasonic XR(?) receiver  (not sure if its the 25 or 45, the 45 is the better of the two):

http://www.audiocircle.com/circles/viewtopic.php?p=73766#73766
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Re:Building a home stereo
« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2004, 08:39:43 PM »
Subject says it's sold :-\

Thx for the heads up though Craig!
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Re:Building a home stereo
« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2004, 09:27:03 AM »
I know its a bit more $$, but this integrated is supposed to be excellent.  I almost bought one, but decided to go tubes...

http://www.audioadvisor.com/store/productdetail.asp?sku=DMPERR200IP
http://www.soundstage.com/revequip/perreaux_200ip.htm
http://www.audioreview.com/PRD_116070_1583crx.aspx
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Re:Building a home stereo
« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2004, 10:50:56 AM »
I bought my home system through Audiogon

http://www.audiogon.com/index.html

Its an auction site that specializes in high end equipment.  I found some deals on lower-end stuff from guys that were upgrading.

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Re:Building a home stereo
« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2004, 11:41:52 AM »
check this integrated out
http://www.charismaaudio.com/A40.html

Class A operation and built in DAC
i bet it sounds VERY nice.  Just plug your digital source directly into  it via s/pdif and add speakers.  you're off to the races in style!

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Re:Building a home stereo
« Reply #22 on: March 03, 2004, 02:56:57 PM »
check this integrated out
http://www.charismaaudio.com/A40.html

Class A operation and built in DAC
i bet it sounds VERY nice.  Just plug your digital source directly into  it via s/pdif and add speakers.  you're off to the races in style!


That is pretty cool.  Another one in that style is the Music Hall Mambo (1 box integrated + DAC).  Suprised there aren't more out there.
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Re:Building a home stereo
« Reply #23 on: March 12, 2004, 07:36:45 PM »
The DAC's in most name-brand DVD players are very good these days, 192kHz with decent analog filter components, so I wouldn't consider a built-in DAC to be a valuable feature in an amp.

I recommend against jumping too far ahead of yourself when upgrading a stereo.  Your Sony doesn't provide a balanced basis for comparison, so your first step is to get a well-balanced rig so you can determine which specialized gear is right for you.  For example Maggie's are nice, but are they nice *for you*?  They aren't for me.  Get your standard of reference and *upgrade only when you've actually heard the benefit to the upgrade*.  Here's how I'd steer ya:

DVD player: any current Hitachi - has good DAC and the most overlooked feature that directly impacts sound quality, the ability to *disable* auto-power-off, keeps analog circuitry warm

Amp: Cambridge, Arcam, Sugden, Rega, and Creek all make superb simple affordable neutral integrated amps, find one used the has about 1/2 the power rating that you're used to (a 60W Rega smokes a 120W Sony), don't consider tubes until you befriend a local wirehead

Speakers: No idea what brands are in your area or what style suits your music, but first thing you should do is knock on the cabinets - ideally you should hear more knuckle than cabinet (knock the 1st joints of your middle fingers together to hear what I mean).  Any sound other than knuckle is added to everything played through those speakers.  Then look for woofers with paper cones and rubber suspensions, and cloth dome tweeters.  First stop - Mission, then KEF, then Monitor Audio (their bronze series breaks a lot of my rules, but they really engineered their way around the faults).

Accessories:  Most importantly, get decent speaker stands!  I'm talking heavy metal tubing which can be filled with sand, and thick metal plates.  On top of getting the speakers into the right positions, remember the non-knuckle sound of the cabinet?  A lot of it conducts through the metal and dissipates in the sand.  A $120 pair of speaker stands will make a $300 speaker sound $300 better every time.  Everyone and their dog has a theory about cables, just start with whatever cheap interconnects look nice, and OFC 12ga stranded speaker cables, if/when you upgrade, you'll find a use for them elsewhere.  Subwoofer?  Maybe, start with a passive, run separate cables to the sub, don't pass-through.

Total cost should be around $750, from there you can determine on your own what exotic gear is right for you, your music, and your room, or if you'd rather spend the money elsewhere.  If you jump into high-end gear too fast it will not be the right gear for you, and you'll never know how or why.  You'll just sit there thinking your $5k stereo kicks ass.

 

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