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Re:Opinions: Mini-MP > AD-20?
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2004, 09:20:29 AM »
Forget the mmp, Steve. I have some samples, sounds very clean and not at all like 463>mme, but if you're looking for that sound, get a v2 for 650 used and run it into your d100. The ad-20 isn't going to sound better than the m1, imo. Ditto what just about everyone else opined, pick up a used mme, just make sure it's a rev c so you can run 6 or 12v. Imho.
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Re:Opinions: Mini-MP > AD-20?
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2004, 10:48:16 AM »
Marc, whats your opinion on the MMP? Is it really the 148 killer?

Steve, buy what you want. If you do go with the MMP, just run it into your M1.
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Re:Opinions: Mini-MP > AD-20?
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2004, 11:05:56 AM »
tough to say, based on one mule show and one garaj mahal onstage, but not really any warmth at all, mg200>mmp>mme, sounds clean, like a psp-3. It's a stretch to compare it to a v2 or sx, I'd say I favor both over the mmp, and you can for sure get a v2 for less than an  if you buy used, and even a new sx would be not much more, sound better,  and be smaller. Steve, pm me and I can get you the shows so you can hear for your self. Again, though, it's just two shows, I just know it's not what I'm looking for in a pre. Not bad, just not what I need with dpas.
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Re:Opinions: Mini-MP > AD-20?
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2004, 12:12:24 PM »
hell, I have seen a couple go for $850-$950 (the minime that is) on ebay in the past month or so....
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Re:Opinions: Mini-MP > AD-20?
« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2004, 12:13:59 PM »
you got a steal!!!

check the kickdown section for a BT session of STS9 featuring the MiniMp
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Re:Opinions: Mini-MP > AD-20?
« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2004, 12:23:55 PM »
the only MiniME on Ebay right now has a starting bid price of $1125!
hell, you can get a new MinME(w/out usb) cheaper than that


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Re:Opinions: Mini-MP > AD-20?
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2004, 12:37:55 PM »
the only MiniME on Ebay right now has a starting bid price of $1125!
hell, you can get a new MinME(w/out usb) cheaper than that

and that same guy has been trying to sell that unit on ebay for quite a while

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Re:Opinions: Mini-MP > AD-20?
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2004, 12:41:51 PM »
the only MiniME on Ebay right now has a starting bid price of $1125!
hell, you can get a new MinME(w/out usb) cheaper than that

and that same guy has been trying to sell that unit on ebay for quite a while

you'd think he take the hint. . .


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Re:Opinions: Mini-MP > AD-20?
« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2004, 05:42:46 AM »
Mr Nizzle has entered the building.  I ran the MMP for three Greyboy shows, one remarkable elba kramer, and one vinyl, on stage.  I think it is HOT!  It sounds sweet.  It's super clean through all frequencies and if you run it right is just so tight and clean.  It acutally seems to be getting more out of my mics that other pres I have run.  The bottom end is tight even when the room was boomy, it seemed forgiveing.  I have made the best tapes I've prolly ever made during this past run.  I will make sure to get some of the greyboy stuff to you guys who can host it. Richard Cambell ran 4's>v3 right next to me at the gothic, I don't think that there will be muc debate after we compare these tapes.
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Re:Opinions: Mini-MP > AD-20?
« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2004, 05:50:28 AM »
Nizzel-fizzel - quick q. What do you mean by "run it right"?
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Re:Opinions: Mini-MP > AD-20?
« Reply #25 on: February 11, 2004, 08:37:10 AM »
ran 4's>v3 right next to me at the gothic, I don't think that there will be muc debate after we compare these tapes.

I assume you mean for your ears on your playback system in your listening environment.  (Just trying to head off the inevitable MMP/MMe/V3 fluffing/bashing that inevitably follows these kinds of statements.)
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Re:Opinions: Mini-MP > AD-20?
« Reply #26 on: February 11, 2004, 01:10:48 PM »
no disrespect, but wtf does "run it right" mean? If it means playback on a clean, tight system, fine, but otherwise, not sure I buy this. The mme is a lot of things, but not tight and clean. If it ain't tight and clean with dpas, it ain't tight and clean. Imo.
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Re:Opinions: Mini-MP > AD-20?
« Reply #27 on: February 11, 2004, 01:31:15 PM »
"Richard Cambell ran 4's>v3 right next to me at the gothic, I don't think that there will be muc debate after we compare these tapes. "

Just to chime in on Mr. Nizzel's statement as well, condisering that was my V3 Richard was running, you are comparing a different capsule, with a different pre, with a different A/D converter, with a different configuration.  Schizzle that, my Nizzle.

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Re:Opinions: Mini-MP > AD-20?
« Reply #28 on: February 11, 2004, 03:25:40 PM »
I thought Cambell was running the 4's not the 4v's sorry.  However  I did not say that the MME was tight I said that the MMP was tight!  You have to run the MMp not too hot because as far as it's lighting sceme goes if you see to much orange you are pushing very close to overloading it.  You also have to run it in a way that it gives maximum output to the MMe so that you do not hear the analog stage of the A\D .  You want to dial down gain as much as possible on the MME.  The MMP also has a 6db atenuator that adjusts the out evenly on both channels this attenuator allows you to run the pre at varrying degrees of gain.  Like many other pre's I think that you will find that it sounds different when run at varrying dbs.  For example the Oade's will tell you that the 148 will sound different if you have it built with a a higher gain.  So for the MMP you can run it in varing ways, you can run it like a fixed gain pre, you can try to max out your levels prior to out put, or as I run it at the moment you can get your lights jumping just into the oranges within 2-3db of what you might want your max to be and then adjust the attenuator 2-3db for the output stage so you hit that digital 0 you want without having to use much or any of the MME gain stage.
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Re:Opinions: Mini-MP > AD-20?
« Reply #29 on: February 11, 2004, 03:45:04 PM »
I assume you mean for your ears on your playback system in your listening environment.  (Just trying to head off the inevitable MMP/MMe/V3 fluffing/bashing that inevitably follows these kinds of statements.)

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