Topic: m148->V3 users

[scb]

it's very hard to clip the v3.  i believe grace said it's got a hard limit on it to help prevent actual overs

[mhibbs]

A preamp in mathematical terms is a voltage multiplier. It multiplies noise and the intended signal. Resistors generate noise, so do microphone capsules.  Mics hear what they hear, and they generate a line level signal that is then multiplied by the preamp.  As part of the voltage multiplication, the preamp adds it's own noise based on the design of the particular preamp, components used (transformers, op amps, etc).  A cleaner preamp may add less destructive noise as part of the multiplication, resulting in the impression that the preamp allows the mics to hear more of the room, but in reality, it's doing a better job of multiplying what the mics have already picked up.  Preamps can't add detail that isn't already there...it's more a matter of how much they degrade the signal as it moves down the chain...some degrade more than others, and sometimes more (or just different) degradation is a good thing.


-mitch

[mhibbs]

it's very hard to clip the v3.  i believe grace said it's got a hard limit on it to help prevent actual overs

yeah, but if you continually ram it into the hard limiter, you'll see squared off waves (or very close too it).  whether it truly goes over and results in a square wave clip or the hard limiter compresses it rapidly to 0db is almost a matter of semantics, the end result is not ideal.  if it was, I would just peg my ad1000, turn the soft limit on and go drink beer.


mitch

[Brian Skalinder]

i believe grace said it's got a hard limit on it to help prevent actual overs

Haven't heard this before - curious where you heard this and if you (or anyone else) can confirm?

[BC]

it's very hard to clip the v3.

agreed, but I think in the situation where one is running an external pre in front of it the bigger risk is overloading the the mic inputs (with the -20dB pads off).

[jpschust]

Tim, by the way, im eating my words since im going to be running 4022 > m148 > v3 :-)  eating them happily, but eating them nonetheless.

[F.O.Bean]

so should the jumpers def be put on -20db if running the 148 in front??

[jpschust]

this is what im not sure about, mainly because i dont have my v3 yet, but theoretically shouldnt the v3 adjust for line input rather than mic input?

[save]

don't worry your v3 will be in the mail tomorrow morning  hopefully you'll get some use out of her since i never got a chance to run it in the field....

[muj]

it's very hard to clip the v3.  i believe grace said it's got a hard limit on it to help prevent actual overs

yes.yes.yes.

the mytek doesn't..so watch out!boom!

[F.O.Bean]

don't worry your v3 will be in the mail tomorrow morning  hopefully you'll get some use out of her since i never got a chance to run it in the field....

that should be a crime

[jpschust]

i plan on using it in the field and in the studio too.  i may try and use the 148 in the studio, though practically for what i record i dont think its gonna serve much purpose in the studio.  i tend not to buy "warm" stuff for the studio, generally things with more "clarity"

[carlbeck]

I ran the 4022>148>V3 combo with & without the -20 jumpers. I ended up not using them so I could swap out the 148 mid set break if I wanted. I wish I labled all the comps so I could go back & re-evaluate what I heard but I'm a burn out.

[marc0789]

Confucious say:

Running m148>v3 like having dog fixed. Dog still able to hump leg, but dog not fuck anymore.

[F.O.Bean]

Confucious say:

Running m148>v3 like having dog fixed. Dog still able to hump leg, but dog not fuck anymore.

HAHA, +T you demented phocker