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Thoughts on ACM V3
« on: April 23, 2008, 10:03:48 AM »
Any thoughts on the Oade ACM mod for the V3? Thankfully I understand the mod leaves the Grace pre's alone.
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Re: Thoughts on ACM V3
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2008, 10:27:46 AM »
Well since I have the first modded V3 as well as it being the ACM mod I have a bunch of thoughts.

First and foremost I want to let it be known that the mod is NOT for all mics.  I did not like it at all with either my AKG's (480) or the Neumann 140's.  The 140's worked alot better than the 480's but they still weren't perfect.   Currently i've been using it with my Neumann midside setup and it sounds great.  I'l run it with the DPA's next week for Mule and Panic.

The mod itself ONLY affects the a/d chips within the unit.  Nothing on the preamp side is touched thankfully.  The biggest thing that comes to mind when I think of the sound is "big soundstage".  Really a huge improvement.  I've found that the sound also tends to be more in your face than stock.  The big soundstage sound takes away alot of the sterility of the stock a/d section.

For a good example orechall ran my ACM V3 this past weekend at Panic.  4023 > ACM V3 > 722.  I've only heard the first night so far but I honestly think that of all the sources out that his are the winners.  Lots of other great sounding tapes but his really do standout.

I'd be more than happy to answer any specific questions if you have nay about the mod.


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Re: Thoughts on ACM V3
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2008, 08:28:06 PM »
Thanks.

I was always an Apogee supporter/fan but I never thought the V3 A/D was that terrible.
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Re: Thoughts on ACM V3
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2008, 11:23:03 AM »
Slightly off topic but any chance somebody out there on this "series of tubes" called the internet has a PSP-2/V2/V3/Mini-Me that is collecting dust? I'll give it a nice home.
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Re: Thoughts on ACM V3
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2008, 12:47:13 PM »
I was always an Apogee supporter/fan but I never thought the V3 A/D was that terrible.

The V3 a/d section sounded great to my ears at 16 bit but left alot to be desired at 24 bit.   Totally personal opinion as alot of V3 owners love the sound to their own ears.  Me?  I wanted a change and after talking with Doug for a while about it he broached the thought of a V3 a/d mod he was thinking of.  I went ahead and did it and have been generally happy with it.

As per my previous post the ACM is not for every mic but I think it pairs up exceptionally well with the DPA's.

Here's a recent show that orechall recorded borrowing my ACM V3.

http://www.archive.org/details/moe2008-04-11.dpa4023

I believe in addition to the ACM mod he was offering a TCM mod as well but as always you'd have to contact him to make sure.

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Re: Thoughts on ACM V3
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2008, 08:50:40 PM »
I run an acm mod v3 with schoeps mk4/41's and have been very happy with it. I will add that to my untrained ears my recordings seem more detailed in the mid range since the mod. I dont know how since to my understanding Doug only mods the a/d chips. I think it pairs well with schoeps but would like to run a side by side comparison with a stock v3 and mk4/41's just to compare. Has anyone done this yet?
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Re: Thoughts on ACM V3
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2008, 11:09:32 PM »
I miss this modded preamp terribly bad.
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Re: Thoughts on ACM V3
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2008, 01:55:05 AM »
I had mine done as well - it resolved my only complaint about the V3 - it didn't come close to the Benchmark.
Now its much more of a "preference" rather than a clear choice.
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Re: Thoughts on ACM V3
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2008, 10:50:40 AM »
How much is the mod going for?
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Re: Thoughts on ACM V3
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2008, 11:02:10 AM »
I had mine done as well - it resolved my only complaint about the V3 - it didn't come close to the Benchmark.
Now its much more of a "preference" rather than a clear choice.

Which mod did you go with ACM or TCM?

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Re: Thoughts on ACM V3
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2008, 11:06:38 AM »
How much is the mod going for?
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Re: Thoughts on ACM V3
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2008, 11:35:11 AM »
I dont suppose anyone reading this thread has a connection to a V3 that is collecting dust? I'll give it a good home  :)
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Re: Thoughts on ACM V3
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2008, 12:24:57 PM »
Mine has no dust.. but I currently only use the analog preamp section.  I'm considering the mod for future 24bit out use.

I had mine done as well - it resolved my only complaint about the V3 - it didn't come close to the Benchmark.
Now its much more of a "preference" rather than a clear choice.

Which mod did you go with ACM or TCM?

Anyone know what's the difference between the two since this is an A/D mod and not a preamp mod?
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Re: Thoughts on ACM V3
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2008, 03:53:09 PM »
Technically not a clue - but ACM = advanced concert mod and TCM = transparent concert mod.
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Re: Thoughts on ACM V3
« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2008, 04:51:48 PM »
I had mine done as well - it resolved my only complaint about the V3 - it didn't come close to the Benchmark.
Now its much more of a "preference" rather than a clear choice.

It lessened the gap between the AD2k+ and the V3's AD, but you still prefer the AD2K?

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