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which plasma
« on: October 18, 2010, 09:27:59 AM »
Just finished the basement and am looking for an afordable 50" or so plasma, price range around $1,000.00 +/-, looking at the Panasonic viera, any other suggestions welcome.

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Re: which plasma
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2010, 09:50:40 AM »
panasonic G25 50 inch was 999 on amazon last week.  it might still be...

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Re: which plasma
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2010, 10:17:09 AM »
What about the 1080 vs 720, the seated viewing area will be about 8-9' away, I don't want to buy outdated technology, but I also don't want to spend money for the sake of it, I don't  have a blue ray player yet but intend on getting one, and for now it will be hooked to non high def cable signal.
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Re: which plasma
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2010, 01:24:14 PM »
i don't own a 1080p tv (still on 720), so I can't answer that one.  But I will ask why you won't be feeding it a high def cable signal? 

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Re: which plasma
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2010, 01:47:38 PM »
that's fair, I am cheap, don't care about sports that much, and figure with our second child due at the end of next month there is little need to spend the xtra money each month for the amount of tv I watch. Now let me say that I firmly beleive in buying quality I don't want to buy something and be limited say in 6 months if I want to add high def to my cable. The main purpose is for movies which I plan on picking up a blueray player and maybe getting netflix or something. The space is really ideal for a plasma almost no natural light where the tv will be mounted, the only thing I am worried about is the buzzing some have complained about in reviews, the tv  you recomended is 999.00 at B & H so maybe I willl go that route. Thanks for the input so far.
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Re: which plasma
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2010, 01:51:15 PM »
that's fair, I am cheap, don't care about sports that much, and figure with our second child due at the end of next month there is little need to spend the xtra money each month for the amount of tv I watch. Now let me say that I firmly beleive in buying quality I don't want to buy something and be limited say in 6 months if I want to add high def to my cable. The main purpose is for movies which I plan on picking up a blueray player and maybe getting netflix or something. The space is really ideal for a plasma almost no natural light where the tv will be mounted, the only thing I am worried about is the buzzing some have complained about in reviews, the tv  you recomended is 999.00 at B & H so maybe I willl go that route. Thanks for the input so far.

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Re: which plasma
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2010, 02:51:32 PM »
What about the 1080 vs 720, the seated viewing area will be about 8-9' away

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Re: which plasma
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2010, 03:00:25 PM »
that's fair, I am cheap, don't care about sports that much, and figure with our second child due at the end of next month there is little need to spend the xtra money each month for the amount of tv I watch.

you have to pay extra for high def?  lame

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Re: which plasma
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2010, 03:42:08 PM »
Panasonic is one of the oldest manufacturers of plasma TV's, and I was surprised when I liked the picture on my Samsung better than I liked the Panasonic.  AppleTV is a great choice for high def content.
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Re: which plasma
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2010, 04:04:16 PM »
While I love the chart Brian posted and reference one similar there is one thing that has not been mentioned which is content.

The VAST MAJORITY of content on tv today was filmed or is still filmed at 480.   Those shows that are advertised as being hi-def the majority of those are really just upsampled from 480.   So that leaves a small portion (some but not all new shows) that are filmed at 720 or even rarer at 1080. 

Then factor in who your provider is.  Cablevision, Comcast, U-Verse, etc all compress their signals so they can fit all of their programming through the cable into your house.   You may see that the game is broadcast at 1080 but you aren't getting anywhere close to that resolution in real life.  You're getting a compressed version of 1080.

My suggestion if you don't watch much television with fast motion (i.e. sports) then save yourself a ton of money and buy a 720 tv. 


AppleTV is a great choice for high def content.

Not trying to stir an apple / anti-apple fork in the thread but there are several alternatives that do what the AppleTV does with better specs (1080 support) and the same or lower price point and apparently do it better.   As just one example look at the Roku boxes.  http://www.roku.com  They are getting much better reviews than the AppleTV box.  The AppleTV boxes are also having major problems playing on older HDTV's.

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Re: which plasma
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2010, 04:14:33 PM »
yes, the high def. costs more in my area, so we opted to go without, sports is not really something I watch alot of, but the seated distance will be around 8' -9' so maybe some noticable diffrence from 720 - 1080, I will have to go out and veiw some for myself. Thanks for all the replies.
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Re: which plasma
« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2010, 05:33:41 PM »
Not trying to stir an apple / anti-apple fork in the thread but there are several alternatives that do what the AppleTV does with better specs (1080 support) and the same or lower price point and apparently do it better.   As just one example look at the Roku boxes.  http://www.roku.com  They are getting much better reviews than the AppleTV box.  The AppleTV boxes are also having major problems playing on older HDTV's.

I'm not really anti or pro Apple, I just like the ala carte style of ordering.  If you ain't watchin' it, you aren't paying for it.

I had a blu-ray player that streamed NetFlix in "high def" which was basically smearvision.  It is quicker to download but much more compressed; my understanding of the Apple box is that it takes a bit to download but it outputs i true 720P and looks better than my DirecTV (which generally looks good to my eye).  I've also heard that Apple continues to add features to older boxes as their firmware gets upgraded.  I haven't heard anything about the Roku boxes, outside of that they exist.
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Re: which plasma
« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2010, 05:54:00 PM »
The AppleTV is a decent box that people will be buying because of the Apple name on it.  Again competitors are doing it with more features, better specs and the same if not lower price tag. 

Roku boxes are just one example.  Half of the dozen or so GoogleTV boxes, Popbox and Boxee units are some others.   

Most BluRay players older than about 6 months did near direct streaming which can introduce the 'smearvision' you mentioned.  If you buy a BR player off the shelf today most if not all that support services like NetFlix have more NAND flash memory onboard that allows them to cache the streaming content.

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« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2010, 06:59:11 PM »
I rely on my DVR...about half of the blu-ray disks I would get from NetFlix wouldn't play in the player purchased in December of last year.  I would get surveys from NetFlix about the quality of the picture, I would complain and the quality would improve incrementally.  Eventually I stopped getting surveyed and the picture still sucked.  I personally don't think the average internet connection in a household has enough throughput to display streaming HD at full resolution, at least right now.  Apple is on the right track caching the feed.

The AppleTV is a decent box that people will be buying because of the Apple name on it.  Again competitors are doing it with more features, better specs and the same if not lower price tag. 

Roku boxes are just one example.  Half of the dozen or so GoogleTV boxes, Popbox and Boxee units are some others.   

Most BluRay players older than about 6 months did near direct streaming which can introduce the 'smearvision' you mentioned.  If you buy a BR player off the shelf today most if not all that support services like NetFlix have more NAND flash memory onboard that allows them to cache the streaming content.
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« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2010, 08:21:59 PM »
Roku boxes are just one example.  Half of the dozen or so GoogleTV boxes, Popbox and Boxee units are some others.   

i didn't think the Google TV existed yet

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« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2010, 01:36:36 AM »
Roku boxes are just one example.  Half of the dozen or so GoogleTV boxes, Popbox and Boxee units are some others.   

i didn't think the Google TV existed yet

The two most recent GoogleTV boxes are from Sony (pricey) and a Logitech box.    I believe roll out of GoogleTV boxes from different manufacturers started eariler this month.

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Re: which plasma
« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2010, 11:07:14 AM »
I ended up buying a 50" panasonic g20 should have it in a couple of days. Thanks for the tips.
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Re: which plasma
« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2010, 03:18:28 PM »
Had a Pani plasma.  Hated it. Sold it.  LCD baby!  JMO though.

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Re: which plasma
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2011, 08:31:23 PM »
Too late for the OP but anyone looking for 50" plasma's today should seriously look at the following model.  This one and its big sister are the first/only THX 3D certified units.  Doesn't really cost any more right now than comparable plasmas.

http://www.lg.com/us/tv-audio-video/televisions/LG-plasma-tv-INFINIA-50PX950.jsp
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Re: which plasma
« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2011, 05:23:39 PM »
just picked up a used kuro 5020. 

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« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2011, 12:55:04 PM »
just picked up a used kuro 5020. 

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Re: which plasma
« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2011, 12:56:01 PM »
Had a Pani plasma.  Hated it. Sold it.  LCD baby!  JMO though.

you hated it?  can you give reasons?

Did you have it calibrated, or at least follow some general calibration specs from an AV forum first?
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