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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread
« Reply #60 on: February 15, 2012, 01:45:23 PM »
Here is what I hope is a helpful pic of running 4 mics on the Manfrotto Double Articlated arm.  To get the two pairs on the end, I just used two Manfrotto rapid adapters, with one pointing up, and one pointing down.

Mics: Schoeps MK4V, MK41V, MK5, MK22> CMC6, KCY 250/5, KC5, NBob; MBHO MBP603/KA200N, AT 3031, DPA 4061, Naiant X-X, AT 853c, shotgun
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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread
« Reply #61 on: February 15, 2012, 11:34:16 PM »
Which Schoeps caps, and what type of Neumann are those ???
Schoeps MK4's | MK41's ->
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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread
« Reply #62 on: February 16, 2012, 01:16:13 AM »
Page/Flipp,

Please post pics when you get this straightened out.

I'm a visual-learner. The text dialog is doing nothing for me even though I've read it numerous times...

I used to do some rigging/lighting and a visual cue might jar something loose...



finally got around to taking pictures earlier this week:

adjustable arm (396-AB) with heavy duty bendable/flex arm (237HD)

superclamp > 396-ab > rapid adaptor > 237HD > rapid adaptor > rycote shockmount.


Arm at a slow curve and the adjustable bendy arm upright:


Closeup of the bendy arm with the shockmount and mic caps.



the bendy arm and the adjustable arm horizontal sort of wigged me out so I didn't extend the 396 all the way, and I wouldn't do this at a show (maybe with a lighter bendable arm, but not the heavy duty one). Something about the adjustable arm seems fragile to me whenever I use it, but it seems to hold enough weight (at least without heavy bass vibration) to load the heavy duty bendable arm and a shockmount so.... yeah....  :-\

Felt much better about the upright version, so I think it's truly a load issue. I debated trying to go 237 > 396 but I had other stuff to do and walked away at that point. I may have to do some more research on >6' extensions and see what I can pull off.
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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread
« Reply #63 on: February 16, 2012, 02:36:13 AM »
Nice setup bro :)
Schoeps MK4's | MK41's ->
Schoeps | NBob 250/05 KCY's ->
Schoeps VMS 02IB | Naiant +60v/Low Noise PFA's ->
DarkTrain Right Angle Stubby | GakCable XLR's ->
Sound Devices MixPre-6 | Tascam DR-70D ->
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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread
« Reply #64 on: February 16, 2012, 02:00:57 PM »
Which Schoeps caps, and what type of Neumann are those ???

MK22 (Schoeps 22cm ORTF-ish bar)>KCY>LB (trans)>OCM R-44
KM150>USBPre2>OCM R-44
Mics: Schoeps MK4V, MK41V, MK5, MK22> CMC6, KCY 250/5, KC5, NBob; MBHO MBP603/KA200N, AT 3031, DPA 4061, Naiant X-X, AT 853c, shotgun
Installed: AT 4051
Pres/Power: Aeta PSP3, tinybox v2  [KCY], CA-UBB
Decks: Zoom F8, R-26, M10, D50

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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread
« Reply #65 on: February 16, 2012, 04:18:47 PM »
That Manfrotto Double Articulated arm is a pretty sweet piece of hardware.  First time I came across one was at B&H's brick and mortar store and I must've played with that thing for a good 15 minutes, lol.

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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread
« Reply #66 on: February 16, 2012, 04:35:37 PM »
That Manfrotto Double Articulated arm is a pretty sweet piece of hardware.  First time I came across one was at B&H's brick and mortar store and I must've played with that thing for a good 15 minutes, lol.

it wicked is! That and my nano > reversable stud > rapid adaptor combo get the most use of any accessory I have, sometimes I even use them together if i'm really trying to get distance. Only beef is I wish it had standard screw fixtures instead of that quicklock mechanism.

but yeah, they are nice.
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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread
« Reply #67 on: February 16, 2012, 08:27:01 PM »
Which Schoeps caps, and what type of Neumann are those ???

MK22 (Schoeps 22cm ORTF-ish bar)>KCY>LB (trans)>OCM R-44
KM150>USBPre2>OCM R-44

Allsum ;D
Schoeps MK4's | MK41's ->
Schoeps | NBob 250/05 KCY's ->
Schoeps VMS 02IB | Naiant +60v/Low Noise PFA's ->
DarkTrain Right Angle Stubby | GakCable XLR's ->
Sound Devices MixPre-6 | Tascam DR-70D ->
128gb | 64gb SanDisk Extreme Pro SDXC-I

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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread
« Reply #68 on: February 16, 2012, 10:07:44 PM »
Thanks for the pics, Page.

I'm gonna have to pick up one of those articulated arms now, methinks.

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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread
« Reply #69 on: February 16, 2012, 10:31:28 PM »
Yeah me too! What was the damage on that one, Page?
Schoeps MK4's | MK41's ->
Schoeps | NBob 250/05 KCY's ->
Schoeps VMS 02IB | Naiant +60v/Low Noise PFA's ->
DarkTrain Right Angle Stubby | GakCable XLR's ->
Sound Devices MixPre-6 | Tascam DR-70D ->
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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread
« Reply #70 on: February 16, 2012, 11:09:24 PM »
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=396-AB&N=0&InitialSearch=yes

Forgive me, but the narcissistic in me is beginning to believe this thread might be an all-time ts.com classic. Keep up the good work, gents. I am learning so much... Keep them posts and photos coming!

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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread
« Reply #71 on: February 17, 2012, 12:15:15 AM »
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=396-AB&N=0&InitialSearch=yes

The 396-AB3 is what I have in the pictures, it can contain the most weight of all of them.

They say they can support 11lbs load, but I wouldn't try it, or if I did, I'd figure out the whole force/load calc to ensure I had some extra leeway before I left home. I've put an LSD2-clone on it before a couple of times with success, but having the 237HD worried me the most cause of how it was outstretched with weight.
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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread
« Reply #72 on: February 17, 2012, 09:37:38 AM »
The articulated arm can definitely take a heavy load - and you pay for it.

I sometimes run mine laterally with fullsize Schoeps on it, and it even can hold that way, which is pretty incredible considering the stress on the superclamp's screw when you do that.  Probably would not try that with my 414s or a bigger LD mic...

Run outward as in my photo above, though, bring on the LDs!
Mics: Schoeps MK4V, MK41V, MK5, MK22> CMC6, KCY 250/5, KC5, NBob; MBHO MBP603/KA200N, AT 3031, DPA 4061, Naiant X-X, AT 853c, shotgun
Installed: AT 4051
Pres/Power: Aeta PSP3, tinybox v2  [KCY], CA-UBB
Decks: Zoom F8, R-26, M10, D50

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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread
« Reply #73 on: February 17, 2012, 01:35:24 PM »
Running laterally, I'd probably be more concerned about the stress on the articulated arm's stud rather than the super clamp and the arm itself; the brunt of all that weight is focused on the one bit of metal.  Rigging it up with a few safety cables is always good for some extra insurance.

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Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread
« Reply #74 on: February 17, 2012, 01:37:47 PM »
Running laterally, I'd probably be more concerned about the stress on the articulated arm's stud rather than the super clamp and the arm itself; the brunt of all that weight is focused on the one bit of metal.  Rigging it up with a few safety cables is always good for some extra insurance.

and since it's so long, I end up using 2 cables.

I worry most about the joints than the stud connection. The superclamp holds something like 25lbs of load, so I wire it up with a cable but I dont worry about it very much.
"This is a common practice we have on the bus; debating facts that we could easily find through printed material. It's like, how far is it today? I think it's four hours, and someone else comes in at 11 hours, and well, then we'll... just... talk about it..." - Jeb Puryear

"Nostalgia ain't what it used to be." - Jim Williams

 

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