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Firewire to USB adaptor cable to connect 744T to PC
« on: November 17, 2014, 03:41:04 PM »
I see a number of adaptors out there.  I had a PCMIA firewire card that work great, but my new lappy has no card port (other than SD etc)  Are there any of these adaptors better than any other?  I see lots of firewire to USB cables on ebay...but have read some negative comments in regards to transfer rate etc.

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Re: Firewire to USB adaptor cable to connect 744T to PC
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2014, 04:52:58 PM »
I have never heard of this - this would not be an adapter but a converter as you would need logic to retime/reframe/etc firewire into usb


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Re: Firewire to USB adaptor cable to connect 744T to PC
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2014, 05:04:18 PM »
Your best bet is to either use a cf card or get a external hdd that has both usb and FireWire - u xfer to the hdd from the 744 via firewire, correctly disconnect the firewire drive from the 744, then
Connect the drive to your PC via usb

FireWire is dead unfortunately
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Re: Firewire to USB adaptor cable to connect 744T to PC
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2014, 05:08:17 PM »
All the ones I see on ebay are cables or adapters used to simply change the pinout/physical plug from one to the other

FireWire and USB can run at different voltages so I would avoid this route as a simple adapter could damage your PC and/or the 744
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Re: Firewire to USB adaptor cable to connect 744T to PC
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2014, 05:41:30 PM »
seems you'd be a lot better off either a) recording to CF as your primary media or b) copying from the internal drive to CF as your primary form of x-fer -- see: http://jwsoundgroup.net/index.php?/topic/11164-744t-firewire-connection-issue/


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Re: Firewire to USB adaptor cable to connect 744T to PC
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2014, 10:58:36 AM »
I do not own a 744, nor have I seen one, but I take it the 744 does not have a USB port on it?
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Re: Firewire to USB adaptor cable to connect 744T to PC
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2014, 10:04:21 PM »
H2O is right per usual. It's not a good idea to try a cheap FireWire to USB converter and I've never heard of a good result. There just not compatible formats.

Better options are to copy from the internal to CF or external firewire drive or install a FireWire card in your computer. If you've got a PCI-E slot, you can easily add a genuine firewire 400/800 card for $20-30 bucks. Older Macbooks will also have a firewire 400 port, but I would recommend buying one just to do transfer.

My view on the 744T internal harddrive is that it's nothing more than a backup and I often prefer to simply disable it. I will always transfer my files directly from the CF card would never want to transfer from the internal unless I absolutely had to. Firewire 400 is incredibly slow and ties up your device and computer. Copying files from the internal drive to the CF is also painfully slow, coupled with the fact that you're still going have to pull the data off the CF card again. Simply put, getting the data off the internal hdd is slow no matter what option you choose and for me, I don't necessarily need the redundancy and am confident the CF card will always work right. knock on wood.

dsnacks also points out a good thread about connection issues. I've heard of things getting fried when hot-swapped. Firewire is ancient technology and was always destined to be the first past-its-time feature on these units.


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Re: Firewire to USB adaptor cable to connect 744T to PC
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2014, 01:21:03 AM »
you could get an enclosure for the hard drive in your sd and connect it as an external drive. I do this with my taping laptop to transfer quickly to my desktop computer. That is if you're comfortable taking the drive out.

something like this.

http://www.newegg.com/Hard-Drive-Enclosures/SubCategory/ID-92

If your hard drive is the older IDE/PATA type you could use something like the following.

http://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-2-5-Inch-External-Enclosure-SBT-EKU25/dp/B0006BGV2Y
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Re: Firewire to USB adaptor cable to connect 744T to PC
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2014, 01:14:06 PM »
Here is one someone in Germany made about 10 years ago:

https://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~heha/bastelecke/Rund%20um%20den%20PC/u2f/index.en.htm

To give an idea of the complexity is required to connect a Firewire device to a USB port.
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Re: Firewire to USB adaptor cable to connect 744T to PC
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2014, 01:27:20 PM »
The only mass produced one I can find is here and may or maynot work (it was designed for xfering video with a specialized application in Windows XP):
http://www.pixela.co.jp/en/products/tv_capture/pix_uvcd_u1w/

http://www.space-shops.fr/en/pixuvcdu1w-convertisseur-dv-1394-en-usb-xml-349_263-2068.html


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Re: Firewire to USB adaptor cable to connect 744T to PC
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2014, 02:34:58 PM »
Since there is little difference b/w the P2 and the SD722 in this respect, ie use of CF Card as standard media, I thought I would point out this thread:

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=132900.msg1741944#msg1741944

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Re: Firewire to USB adaptor cable to connect 744T to PC
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2014, 03:44:54 PM »
Are the CF > USB card readers pretty reliable?  I transferred my Frisco Phish shows from 2013 with no noticeable loss or errors.  These readers are pretty inexpensive...Are any better than the others?   My new 744T has a 256 GB SSD drive...I'm liking the idea of mastering to the HD and copying to the CF.
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Re: Firewire to USB adaptor cable to connect 744T to PC
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2014, 05:24:15 PM »
Yes, but like everything that is made in China on the lower end of the food chain there are some bad apples out there - read the reviews on Amazon before you buy

Keep in mind that connecting a cf based recorder to a PC to transfer your recordings via usb is pretty much the same as using a usb cf reader
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Re: Firewire to USB adaptor cable to connect 744T to PC
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2014, 05:25:48 PM »
I've used a very reliable card reader to transfer every recording I've made with the 744 from CF to my laptop with zero errors.

Also, came up against this firewire issue when I had a user error with the CF card and only had archived the show on the HDD.  Copying from the HDD to the CF is really very easy and a lot safer than using firewire convertors and the such.

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Re: Firewire to USB adaptor cable to connect 744T to PC
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2014, 08:45:26 PM »
I do not own a 744, nor have I seen one, but I take it the 744 does not have a USB port on it?

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