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Tinybox battery life (over the life of the product)....
« on: June 02, 2015, 10:25:36 PM »
I have been enjoying use of the Tinybox I purchased and received in May of 2012. As I recently moved to a town with a vibrant club, it has been getting weekly use. I know these take a bit to build if I were to need a replacement, so how long can I expect the battery to last before needing a new one? If I needed a new battery, where could I get one?

Worst case scenario, what new product might be available?

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Re: Tinybox battery life (over the life of the product)....
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2015, 09:49:46 PM »
Can't help you to much other then naiant has battery replacements
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Re: Tinybox battery life (over the life of the product)....
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2015, 09:51:13 PM »
Can't help you to much other then naiant has battery replacements

Thank you for responding! How do you get a battery replacement? Do you send along the unit to get a new one?

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« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2015, 10:02:26 PM »
Can't help you to much other then naiant has battery replacements

Thank you for responding! How do you get a battery replacement? Do you send along the unit to get a new one?
i have not done it but yes you can send it back. I think you can get the battery and do it yourself if you feel comfortable too
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Re: Tinybox battery life (over the life of the product)....
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2015, 10:05:38 PM »

Is it something you solder in?

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Re: Tinybox battery life (over the life of the product)....
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2015, 12:41:26 PM »
Why don't you contact Mr. Naiant and ask him? He's active on this board, no?

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Re: Tinybox battery life (over the life of the product)....
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2015, 01:02:59 PM »
Jon has mentioned what parts he uses (including the battery) in previous threads. I'm pretty sure there is a thread about having to switch over to Ni-Cad batteries because he can no longer ship the Li-Ion batteries.

That being said...probably easiest (and safest) to send it back to him. I suspect the turnaround for a battery wouldn't be very long.

If you really don't want to send it back (and/or want to do it yourself) it should be as simple as opening it up and looking at what it says on the battery. A Google search would likely bring up the replacement part.
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Re: Tinybox battery life (over the life of the product)....
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2015, 03:50:54 PM »
In the Tinybox thread there is a link to the original battery used!! 
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Re: Tinybox battery life (over the life of the product)....
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2015, 06:45:06 PM »

I stink at searching on this site, can someone post that link please?

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« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2015, 11:15:04 PM »

I stink at searching on this site, can someone post that link please?


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Searching here can be hit_or_miss as well as being slow. Instead of someone spoon-feeding you the answer read this http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html to see why some of us think you should put forth a little more effort.

If you want a shortcut, I suggest just asking the maker - http://taperssection.com/index.php?action=profile;u=15691

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Re: Tinybox battery life (over the life of the product)....
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2015, 11:50:27 PM »
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Re: Tinybox battery life (over the life of the product)....
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2015, 11:09:28 AM »
My TB v2.2 was purchased in June 2012.  The battery died Friday night and needs replaced. So the answer is about 3.5 years.
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Re: Tinybox battery life (over the life of the product)....
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2015, 11:22:22 AM »
My v2 is still going!  I probably bought it in 2011ish.

My TB v2.2 was purchased in June 2012.  The battery died Friday night and needs replaced. So the answer is about 3.5 years.
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Re: Tinybox battery life (over the life of the product)....
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2015, 02:18:29 PM »
Hi!

I remember seeing this information in a thread a while ago, but I have been searching for 30 mins now, and I still can't find it... Anyone know where this tinybox thread is?
My old tinybox (1.5) is the li-ion kind and from 2011, it would be nice to have a replacement battery lying around.

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Re: Tinybox battery life (over the life of the product)....
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2015, 03:50:03 PM »
The Li-ions originally used can't be shipped without a hazmat contract.  You can buy them here, but the seller adds a $28.50 charge per box for the hazmat service:

http://www.batteryspace.com/li-ion1443074v600mah444whbatterymodulesidebysidewithprotectioniclc14430s2r1wr.aspx

Thank you Jon, that was the information I was looking for :-)
I will think about whether I will get a new Li-ion battery or have you replace it with NiMH. Would you think my Li-ion battery is getting near its end? Bought late 2011, used maybe 30 times a year, charged mostly every time...
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Re: Tinybox battery life (over the life of the product)....
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2015, 05:13:41 PM »

Remove the Li-ion battery before returning to me!


Just out of curiosity, what are the reasons for recommending your customers do this prior to return and what are the (legal) ramifications for you and the customer? Not that removing the battery is a hard-thing to do, but you're asking customers to a) open up a delicate pieces of electronics equipment and b) handle a potentially hazardous battery.

As the original manufacturer, are you subject to penalty  if a customer sends their box back to you with the battery in-tact? I wouldn't think you have any legal responsibility for them to do or not to do this. As a customer, are their restrictions and penalties for mailing it as-is? Can individual consumers be held liable for shipping li-ion batteries to you?

I'm not 100% up-to-date on guidelines and restrictions for sending hazardous materials, but I would think that for the average customer it's best not to be worrying about opening up the box and removing the battery. That said, I do appreciate your desire to operate as a legitimate business and play by the rules, as opposed to other home-brew manufacturers.

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« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2015, 08:04:18 PM »
Thanks, Jon, that's awesome. I only ask to split hairs, given that the standard position when it comes to product liability is to assume Murphy's law and recommend against self-repair of any kind. "Do not dispose of battery in fire? Challenge accepted!"


The battery attaches to the PCB with a connector, so there is no soldering, no wire cutting involved.  If you somehow break something else (a wire, a capacitor, etc.) in removal I will fix it when I convert it to NiMH.  The main risk is you will scratch the aluminum panels if you aren't careful with the nutdriver (you want to hold the socket very slightly off the face of the panel).

I really appreciate how this was designed. Removing the battery is simple and if you're gentle with the panel screws and connector, the product can be easily user-serviced for a life-time. It wasn't designed with tamper resistant screws, the electronics and connectors aren't covered in potting compound or epoxy, and the enclosure parts are easily replaceable if they do manage to get dinged up.

Having worked with these Hammond enclosures quite bit now, I would add that you don't want to remove the panels when using metal screws any more often than necessary. Like any screw, you can strip the screwhead and after repeated use the screws may no longer hold tightly. That said, a great thing about the design is that everything but the customized face plate can be easily replaced as Hammond sells all the parts individually. If you ding up the back panel, just get a new blank, drill a hole for the power connector, and voila! Even the main part of the enclosure could be replaced once it gets scratched up.

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Re: Tinybox battery life (over the life of the product)....
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2015, 10:58:00 PM »
I have a Tonybox v1.5 and it is still going strong on original battery with plenty of use FWIW
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Re: Tinybox battery life (over the life of the product)....
« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2015, 05:18:26 AM »
Hi guys,

Have a Tinybox v1.5 from July 2011. Battery is still great - to be honest I never even once ran it empty!

Recently it took a hit when I dropped it and the gain switch lever is now loose and must be replaced.
Jon: if you read this, please check my mail and we'll try to work out something?!

If Jon doesn't read this: does anyone else know the part number for the gain switch or somewhere I can order it online for some DIY work replacement?!

Thanks!
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Re: Tinybox battery life (over the life of the product)....
« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2016, 02:49:24 AM »
A late follow up.  Just ordered replacement Li-ion batteries per the link and there was no hazmat charge.  I assume I can take the existing connector off the existing battery and solder it to the wires from the new battery, so I just purchased bare wire units with no connector.  In any event, very reasonable @$18 plus shipping with no hazmat fee.  I ordered 3 so even shipping was cheap on a per unit basis (@$4 a unit).  Fwiw, their shipping policy does specify the hazmat fee that Jon noted, but it was never added to my charge.  As the fee is per box, if you buy multiple units, the per unit cost of the fee obviously drops if they were to charge it.
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Re: Tinybox battery life (over the life of the product)....
« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2016, 09:20:25 AM »
Thanks!!  I'll buy a back up I never had my V2 changed over and would rather keep the Li-ion battery since it runs forever using a KCY setup.  Do you remember how much shipping was for 1 battery?

A late follow up.  Just ordered replacement Li-ion batteries per the link and there was no hazmat charge.  I assume I can take the existing connector off the existing battery and solder it to the wires from the new battery, so I just purchased bare wire units with no connector.  In any event, very reasonable @$18 plus shipping with no hazmat fee.  I ordered 3 so even shipping was cheap on a per unit basis (@$4 a unit).  Fwiw, their shipping policy does specify the hazmat fee that Jon noted, but it was never added to my charge.  As the fee is per box, if you buy multiple units, the per unit cost of the fee obviously drops if they were to charge it.
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Re: Tinybox battery life (over the life of the product)....
« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2016, 09:51:10 AM »
Shipping for 3 was $11.43. I have 3 TBs so I didn't price a single.  You might want to wait a couple days to see whether they try and ding me for the hazmat fee when they ship.  I will post again once they notice me for shipping.  Fingers crossed.
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Re: Tinybox battery life (over the life of the product)....
« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2016, 09:52:02 AM »
Will do!!  Thanks for the heads up. 

Shipping for 3 was $11.43. I have 3 TBs so I didn't price a single.  You might want to wait a couple days to see whether they try and ding me for the hazmat fee when they ship.  I will post again once they notice me for shipping.  Fingers crossed.
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Re: Tinybox battery life (over the life of the product)....
« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2016, 02:57:29 PM »
OK.  They did catch it and the hazmat price has gone up.  They now want $42.50 per box for the hazmat fee.  Bummer.  They have also changed the webpage for this item to call attention to this.

I am ordering several of these, so I am still willing to pay the hazmat fee.


Jon, does the rechargeable little box use the same battery?  If it does, I'll order another (for a total of 4) and do a clean sweep of all my Naiant devices.

Edit: - per Jon, little box (hereinafter "LB") uses a different, larger battery:

http://www.batteryspace.com/li-ion1850074v1400mah1036whbatterymodulewithprotectioniclc18500s2r1wr.aspx

Note that the LB battery is UN38.3 passed, so it should not require a hazmat fee if you order one to replace your LB battery.



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Re: Tinybox battery life (over the life of the product)....
« Reply #24 on: September 04, 2016, 03:10:41 PM »
I have a Tinybox 1.0 with a Li-Ion battery.

What is the behavior I'd expect to see if my battery was going bad?

Recorded last night's Phish show. Made it 50 minutes into the second set and the Tinybox looks like it shut off. I think I checked it about an hour in and noticed no levels and the Tinybox was off (no light). Turned it off and back on again and it was still dead. I would have expected it to start sounding poor (distorted) from the battery dying and slowly getting worse until it died, but it just went from on to off.

Transferred the recording and it goes from a nice sounding recording to nothing in about 1 second...almost like it got switch off by accident, but that didn't happen.

Also...charging question. I never really paid attention to how long it takes to charge, but I plugged it in this morning (obviously it was completely dead), and the light on the charger turned green in about 15 minutes. I know it has to take longer than 15 minutes to charge this thing...should I be concerned about that? I've left it connected to the charger hoping there is a trickle charge now. I'm rolling again tonight for Phish. I'd like to make a complete recording. I did leave the Tinybox on between sets yesterday so I'll keep it turned off unless there is music tonight.

Luckily not a life or death situation at Phish. Nice to make my own recording, but plenty of other tapers to back me up...but I need to figure this out for my next show when I might be the only taper.


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Re: Tinybox battery life (over the life of the product)....
« Reply #25 on: September 04, 2016, 03:15:00 PM »
Sounds like it is time for a replacement!!  I have a Tinybox v2 and I worry about this issue.  I usually only carry as a backup pre these days.  This thread has links to the battery you would need or Jon will convert your tinybox. 

I have a Tinybox 1.0 with a Li-Ion battery.

What is the behavior I'd expect to see if my battery was going bad?

Recorded last night's Phish show. Made it 50 minutes into the second set and the Tinybox looks like it shut off. I think I checked it about an hour in and noticed no levels and the Tinybox was off (no light). Turned it off and back on again and it was still dead. I would have expected it to start sounding poor (distorted) from the battery dying and slowly getting worse until it died, but it just went from on to off.

Transferred the recording and it goes from a nice sounding recording to nothing in about 1 second...almost like it got switch off by accident, but that didn't happen.

Also...charging question. I never really paid attention to how long it takes to charge, but I plugged it in this morning (obviously it was completely dead), and the light on the charger turned green in about 15 minutes. I know it has to take longer than 15 minutes to charge this thing...should I be concerned about that? I've left it connected to the charger hoping there is a trickle charge now. I'm rolling again tonight for Phish. I'd like to make a complete recording. I did leave the Tinybox on between sets yesterday so I'll keep it turned off unless there is music tonight.

Luckily not a life or death situation at Phish. Nice to make my own recording, but plenty of other tapers to back me up...but I need to figure this out for my next show when I might be the only taper.
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Re: Tinybox battery life (over the life of the product)....
« Reply #26 on: September 04, 2016, 03:18:18 PM »
^ Yep. I'm thinking of getting the IPA's. I think this is a sign from above that I need a new toy. :D

This looks like the battery. I'll have to double check the Tinybox, but I'll wait until tomorrow to do that. Don't want to fiddle with anything when I have a show to head to in a few hours.

EDIT: Forgot the link.

http://www.batteryspace.com/li-ion1443074v600mah444whbatterymodulesidebysidewithprotectioniclc14430s2r1wr.aspx?variation=8162
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Re: Tinybox battery life (over the life of the product)....
« Reply #27 on: September 04, 2016, 05:12:46 PM »
tinybox runs a voltage converter, so it will die fast and hard with no warning other than the low battery indicator.  All v1s are probably EOL for the battery; those were built six years ago.  The charger behavior is an indication of a bad cell.

EOL meaning that the battery should be dying around now...or EOL meaning you can no longer replace it?
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Re: Tinybox battery life (over the life of the product)....
« Reply #28 on: September 04, 2016, 05:14:58 PM »
EOL=End of life

tinybox runs a voltage converter, so it will die fast and hard with no warning other than the low battery indicator.  All v1s are probably EOL for the battery; those were built six years ago.  The charger behavior is an indication of a bad cell.

EOL meaning that the battery should be dying around now...or EOL meaning you can no longer replace it?
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Re: Tinybox battery life (over the life of the product)....
« Reply #29 on: September 05, 2016, 04:07:43 PM »
So I pulled the battery out of my Tinybox. It has a pull off connector so it should be easy to swap out.

The photo of the connector in this link looks a little different. Is it just the photo or is it a different connector they are selling? When it comes down to it, I know I can solder the old connector to the new battery (the one without the connector), but I'd like to avoid that since my soldering skills are a little lacking (ie it will work, but it might not be pretty).

http://www.batteryspace.com/li-ion1443074v600mah444whbatterymodulesidebysidewithprotectioniclc14430s2r1wr.aspx?variation=8162

Here is a photo of my connector (sorry about the quality).








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Re: Tinybox battery life (over the life of the product)....
« Reply #30 on: September 05, 2016, 04:35:47 PM »
If I remember correctly Jon didn't use the connector that comes with the battery so I think you would need to get a bare wire battery and solder it into your existing connector. 
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Re: Tinybox battery life (over the life of the product)....
« Reply #31 on: November 18, 2016, 01:48:14 PM »
Jon announced a new forum on his website one of them is about battery life in the "box" series see this thread:
http://naiant.com/naiant-forums/microphone-amplifiers/discontinued-box-series-amplifiers-battery-replacement/#p3
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The box series amplifiers were in production from 2009-2014. Those that shipped with internal rechargeable lithium-ion batteries are all near or at battery end-of-life.

Because shipping regulations have gotten more strict since these devices were produced, it is no longer legal to ship the lithium-ion batteries used. Therefore, I do not offer lithium-ion battery replacement. All box series amplifiers can be converted to run on NiMH battery packs instead, as follows:

littlebox/midbox/bigbox: A 6x 2/3 AA NiMH battery pack is a drop-in replacement for most littleboxes that previously had a lithium-ion pack. There is no circuit reconfiguration required. Some littleboxes with input or output transformers in the standard case size might not have sufficient internal room for the NiMH pack, which is slightly larger. The NiMH pack with mating connector is $20.

tinybox & tinyhead: any tinybox version can be reconfigured to use a 5x AAA NiMH pack. The cost of conversion (including new battery) is $50; a new battery pack is $20. The charger originally shipped with the tinybox must continue to be used with the NiMH pack.

PIPsqueak: all PIPsqueaks use a 4x 1/3 NiMH AA battery pack. A replacement pack including connector is $20. I have found that 1/3 NiMH AA batteries have variable initial charge capacity, which can cause premature pack death when the weak cell dies. Thus, I test each battery individually before I assemble the packs.
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Re: Tinybox battery life (over the life of the product)....
« Reply #32 on: November 19, 2016, 10:42:34 PM »
Yeah my TB battery is pretty much at that point (and built toward the end of the run)...  Though it apparently isn't supposed to work this way (Jon indicated it wouldn't) I'd discovered if I plug it into a power outlet it supplies power (indefinitely of course), so an extension cord now travels with the rest of my gear.  That is working until I will have enough downtime to send it back for replacement...  If I use it 007 the battery is still more than adequate for the SP's.  It seems to be down to about 2 hours of phantom power though and still dropping... 
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Re: Tinybox battery life (over the life of the product)....
« Reply #33 on: April 30, 2018, 07:48:07 PM »
The Li-ions originally used can't be shipped without a hazmat contract.  You can buy them here, but the seller adds a $28.50 charge per box for the hazmat service:

http://www.batteryspace.com/li-ion1443074v600mah444whbatterymodulesidebysidewithprotectioniclc14430s2r1wr.aspx

Thank you Jon, that was the information I was looking for :-)
I will think about whether I will get a new Li-ion battery or have you replace it with NiMH. Would you think my Li-ion battery is getting near its end? Bought late 2011, used maybe 30 times a year, charged mostly every time...
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This link for the TB battery is for a Li-Ion 14430 Battery: 7.4V 700mah.
 I just opened my TB & it's a 6V 800mAh battery!? Will this still work or kill my TB? I did not see the battery I have listed for sale.
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Re: Tinybox battery life (over the life of the product)....
« Reply #34 on: May 01, 2018, 11:53:27 AM »
Took my v1.5 Tinybox out last night to see if there is any life in the battery. The battery has never been replaced and I purchased the pre in the YS in 2012. I charged it up for about 90 minutes, got the green light to come on the charger, and ran a test overnight to see what would happen. I woke up this morning and about 10 hours into the test the batt light was still green and i was getting decent levels on my recorder. I'm going to tempt fate and bring the TB with me to NOLA Jazz Fest tomorrow. I'm sure I'm playing with fire but hoping I can get a few more shows out of the battery and then I really need to get a new one installed.
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Re: Tinybox battery life (over the life of the product)....
« Reply #35 on: June 09, 2018, 11:48:27 PM »
need to replace my TB and LB nimh's before red rocks july 4, hoping jon comes thru i know hes busy and moving

failing that i can buy the batteries myself, does anybody have the parts for the keyed 2-position molex connectors ( Molex 22-01-2025 and its pins are Molex 08-50-0032) laying around? if i dont hear from jon or anybody else by monday ill order thru digikey

hopefully jon comes thru so i dont have to spend any more time than necessary, i wanna plug and play, im lazy in my old age ;)
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Re: Tinybox battery life (over the life of the product)....
« Reply #36 on: June 15, 2018, 12:11:53 AM »
I would be curious if I am the only one who got a Little Box configured as a Big Box to run of AA batteries.
At the time i was thinking in the future and didnt want to deal with changing out the packs when it came to end of life. Glad i made that choice.

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Re: Tinybox battery life (over the life of the product)....
« Reply #37 on: June 16, 2018, 08:11:20 AM »
I would be curious if I am the only one who got a Little Box configured as a Big Box to run of AA batteries.
At the time i was thinking in the future and didnt want to deal with changing out the packs when it came to end of life. Glad i made that choice.

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Re: Tinybox battery life (over the life of the product)....
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