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KCY 250/5 Ig w/ PFA?
« on: February 04, 2016, 05:16:44 PM »
Making the leap to Schoeps and I am thinking of buying the KCY 250/5 Ig with a Naiant PFA.

Any reason not to go this route, other than price? I figure I can extended the cables with simple XLRs b/t the PFA and recorder if needed and this would limit the unbalanced section of the setup to just the  KCY. I really like the idea of the single cable setup with the KCY and have true Schoeps connectors at the caps.

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Re: KCY 250/5 Ig w/ PFA?
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2016, 06:47:54 PM »
it's a good choice and will work very well. I have this setup and the single cable is indeed very nice.

Do you think you would ever want to get a wider split with the mic capsules? If so another option is to get KC5 cables and chop them and terminate them in PFAs.

I have some KC5s but haven't chopped them. They're nice but keeping them from getting tangled is hard for me.

I tend to use CMC6 bodies most of the time now but the KCY is great and any time a small rig i can run in ORTF or DIN is called for it's the way to go.
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Re: KCY 250/5 Ig w/ PFA?
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2016, 07:01:00 PM »
jon (Naiant) has mentioned in the past that using "chopped" kc5s terminated with mini-xlrs for this solution will keep the connection balanced throughout.  My kc5s are ziptied together at 12" intervals -- makes it easier to coil/maintain than without, but kc5s do take some patience to keep straight.  I also had darktrain attach mini-xlrs to the "chopped" kc5 ends that attach to mic bodies, allowing me to use the kc5s with pfas or with cmc bodies (darktrain also made me a minixlr>binder connector that lets me run the kc5s into my tinybox) -- fwiw . . .

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Re: KCY 250/5 Ig w/ PFA?
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2016, 07:18:23 PM »
I also prefer KC5's over the KCY. I replaced the Schoeps cable with 1/8" cable.

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Re: KCY 250/5 Ig w/ PFA?
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2016, 08:05:25 AM »
it's a good choice and will work very well. I have this setup and the single cable is indeed very nice.

Do you think you would ever want to get a wider split with the mic capsules? If so another option is to get KC5 cables and chop them and terminate them in PFAs.

I have some KC5s but haven't chopped them. They're nice but keeping them from getting tangled is hard for me.

I tend to use CMC6 bodies most of the time now but the KCY is great and any time a small rig i can run in ORTF or DIN is called for it's the way to go.

I am going to be primarily running MK41s at first and don't expect to run a wider split but a very good point.

 

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Re: KCY 250/5 Ig w/ PFA?
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2016, 11:09:48 AM »
Love my KCY cables!!  I've never had a problem with them being unbalanced. 

it's a good choice and will work very well. I have this setup and the single cable is indeed very nice.

Do you think you would ever want to get a wider split with the mic capsules? If so another option is to get KC5 cables and chop them and terminate them in PFAs.

I have some KC5s but haven't chopped them. They're nice but keeping them from getting tangled is hard for me.

I tend to use CMC6 bodies most of the time now but the KCY is great and any time a small rig i can run in ORTF or DIN is called for it's the way to go.

I am going to be primarily running MK41s at first and don't expect to run a wider split but a very good point.
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Re: KCY 250/5 Ig w/ PFA?
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2016, 11:00:25 PM »
Love my KCY cables!!  I've never had a problem with them being unbalanced. 

it's a good choice and will work very well. I have this setup and the single cable is indeed very nice.

Do you think you would ever want to get a wider split with the mic capsules? If so another option is to get KC5 cables and chop them and terminate them in PFAs.

I have some KC5s but haven't chopped them. They're nice but keeping them from getting tangled is hard for me.

I tend to use CMC6 bodies most of the time now but the KCY is great and any time a small rig i can run in ORTF or DIN is called for it's the way to go.

I am going to be primarily running MK41s at first and don't expect to run a wider split but a very good point.

Me either, and Ive had [2] different Schoeps KCY's[still have 1], and I have an NBob KCY now too! Never had an issue with either being unbalanced, so no way I would ditch the KCY to go to KC5's :) The single cable is sooo quick and convenient! Just icing on the cake IMO 8) But I do prefer the balanced connectors better, and was another reason why I wanted to sell my M10 stuff and get another 70d, so that I was DONE with 1/8" plugs for now 8) But everyone has different needs and expectations :)
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Re: KCY 250/5 Ig w/ PFA?
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2016, 02:58:11 PM »
I bought a KCY and love it! Setup and tear-down is so easy without a tangled mess.

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Re: KCY 250/5 Ig w/ PFA?
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2016, 03:00:46 PM »
I have both, and I use the KCY much more often. I will use KC5>CMC6 for mission-critical applications, but I've never had an issue with the KCY>PFA except for one time when the temperature was in excess of 100 degrees indoors.
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Re: KCY 250/5 Ig w/ PFA?
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2016, 05:11:33 PM »
I have both, and I use the KCY much more often. I will use KC5>CMC6 for mission-critical applications, but I've never had an issue with the KCY>PFA except for one time when the temperature was in excess of 100 degrees indoors.

Just out of curiosity, why is the performance of the KCY>PFA setup temperature-dependent?
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Re: KCY 250/5 Ig w/ PFA?
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2016, 06:56:58 PM »
So I've never held a kcy but hear that it's a real stiff cable, too stiff for kangol work. No?
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Re: KCY 250/5 Ig w/ PFA?
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2016, 07:26:49 PM »
So I've never held a kcy but hear that it's a real stiff cable, too stiff for kangol work. No?

Not real stiff.  Just not easy to coil up quickly if you need to.  About 15' in length i think.   

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Re: KCY 250/5 Ig w/ PFA?
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2016, 07:39:54 PM »
^^The cable is fine for a hat....  but the junction box makes it kinda goofy IMO.
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Re: KCY 250/5 Ig w/ PFA?
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2016, 08:42:17 PM »
Ya,  that box scared me away. Thanks guys.
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Re: KCY 250/5 Ig w/ PFA?
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2016, 03:37:55 AM »
^^The cable is fine for a hat....  but the junction box makes it kinda goofy IMO.

Yea, the NBob KCY might be better for steal&*ing IMO! The Schoeps cable is thicker and has lasted me well over 5 years! I do like the easiness of the NBob cables though! They're easier to mount and setup/teardown! Depends on your situation honestly! I want my 250/5 cut AFTER the junction box, ala my NBob KCY, because its much easier to setup/teardown!
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