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Schoeps MK41 vs MK41V
« on: January 26, 2017, 02:39:49 PM »
Ok, I know I could search and probably find a million debates on this, but hoping someone can give me the broad strokes on a buying decision.

I currently run DPA 4021s and will continue to use these as my primary pair, but find myself recording in a less-than-ideal room (not bad, just not great) more often than not lately and want to see if hypers can help me out.  I would likely still run the 4021s alongside the schoeps, because it's just hitting another button.

I've elected to look at Schoeps mics because I know they perform well and who knows, if the 4021s bite the dust, MK4's may be the replacement...

These will operate on a stand or in a hat, depending.
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Re: Schoeps MK41 vs MK41V
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2017, 03:46:06 PM »
I prefer the mk41v for two reasons:

1) They are a little less directional, that is, the patterns is a little wider in the low end.

2) They are much easier to run, both horizontally in a hat, and vertically on a bar.

They sound fantastic, BTW.
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Re: Schoeps MK41 vs MK41V
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2017, 03:57:40 PM »
41V if you are going to sometimes run a hat. I run 41s with DPA 4021s and really like the combo. I hope to trade up to the 41Vs at some point to easier run in a hat. I had 4Vs and they were awesome for the hat, unfortunately had to unload them.

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Re: Schoeps MK41 vs MK41V
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2017, 03:59:52 PM »
I prefer the mk41v for two reasons:

1) They are a little less directional, that is, the patterns is a little wider in the low end.

2) They are much easier to run, both horizontally in a hat, and vertically on a bar.

They sound fantastic, BTW.

Ditto all that.

I unloaded my 41s for 41vs for distance stea€6h work, and the hat form factor and because I just like the vertical sound a little better. I notice head movement less, and they're smoother to my ears.
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Re: Schoeps MK41 vs MK41V
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2017, 04:04:03 PM »
if this should go in a PM, that's cool - but i've often heard the V's are easier to run in a hat, but I'm having trouble picturing why?

once I get that resolved, and i'm sure I will, probably pull the trigger on a set this weekend
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Re: Schoeps MK41 vs MK41V
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2017, 04:34:20 PM »
I see all the time here folks saying the 4Vs and 41Vs are much easier to run in a hat. I've always run 4s and 41s and I can't picture the advantage of the Vs in a hat either. If anyone can explain it (PM is fine), I would appreciate it as well. I doubt I'd change now since I have everything but I'd like to understand the advantage that the Vs offer.

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Re: Schoeps MK41 vs MK41V
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2017, 06:40:50 PM »
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Re: Schoeps MK41 vs MK41V
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2017, 09:50:31 PM »
Personally I prefer the non-V caps
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Re: Schoeps MK41 vs MK41V
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2017, 10:02:07 PM »
Personally I prefer the non-V caps


I agree with H20 about this! The NON-Vertical caps sound more natural to me, as well as not having the HF Bump that the 4V has. I just like the small, front address caps, which have a flat response in the mk4 & mk41 and I have no reason to upgrade to the V's, to my ears. I've always thought that the 41V sounded a little drier and has a TAD less lowend, even though the actual capsule is bigger in the V series. It's really just a matter of preference in the end. You'll be happy with ANY Schoeps mics that you buy, so you can't go wrong either way ;) They both sound fantastic! I'd listen to some tapes and see which you prefer. If you do a lot of hat work, the V-Series is definitely appealing! MUCH easier to run in a hat IMO! I only open tape these days, so I have no reason to switch things up personally right now!
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Re: Schoeps MK41 vs MK41V
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2017, 11:27:16 PM »
I see all the time here folks saying the 4Vs and 41Vs are much easier to run in a hat. I've always run 4s and 41s and I can't picture the advantage of the Vs in a hat either. If anyone can explain it (PM is fine), I would appreciate it as well. I doubt I'd change now since I have everything but I'd like to understand the advantage that the Vs offer.

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It depends on the hat.  The way I wear mine the V's won't work as well.

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Re: Schoeps MK41 vs MK41V
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2017, 04:04:05 PM »
Personally I prefer the non-V caps
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Re: Schoeps MK41 vs MK41V
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2017, 07:57:31 PM »
I too prefer the standard caps as I find the V's to be a little too bright for my taste.

 

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