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CF cards: how fast is needed?
« on: September 19, 2005, 05:57:01 PM »
I see a company on eBay selling dane elec brand 4gb cf cards for under $190
these cards are 23x 3.4mb min sustained write speed.

what does 24/96 require?
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Re: CF cards: how fast is needed?
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2005, 06:05:27 PM »
Hey Nick,
Here is a link to the core-sound site that would give you a ballpark guestimate.
http://www.core-sound.com/pdaudio_system/6.php
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Re: CF cards: how fast is needed?
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2005, 06:05:37 PM »
Jace Nuzback is the product manager for the MicroTrack and he has returned a few of my emails... this is one of the few questions I can help you with! So here it is from the horse's mouth (I asked him the same question):

From all of the testing we've done, you should be able to use almost
anything.  Higher speeds are not required.
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Re: CF cards: how fast is needed?
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2005, 08:34:52 PM »
probably will result in very slow uploading, i'd guess.
hmmm....
I saw a 80x Transcend 4gb card out there someplace for $228.  now I cant find it again.
Almost a $50 difference vs nearly 3x the performance.
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Re: CF cards: how fast is needed?
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2005, 08:59:57 PM »
just for reference, 24/96 stereo data stream is approximately 0.55 MB/sec

http://24bit.turtleside.com/pcm.wav.file.sizes.pdf

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Re: CF cards: how fast is needed?
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2005, 12:24:32 AM »
So you're saying that a Kingston 45X (10mb read 8mb write) compact flash card should do it since it's 16x faster then the rate required for 24/96 recording?

(rhetorical question... don't answer)

Oh and it's $188 at Dell.
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Re: CF cards: how fast is needed?
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2005, 02:57:43 AM »
Maybe slightly related for selecting CF cards: anyone got info on various cards and their power consumption?

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Re: CF cards: how fast is needed?
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2005, 07:33:08 AM »
I could not get the circulating coupon code to work at Dells site.
I bought the cheap ass slow one.
it'll work just fine on the recording end.
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Re: CF cards: how fast is needed?
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2005, 12:00:07 AM »
The standard SanDisk compact flash cards work just fine in my R-1. I have been using 2gb SanDisks in my R-1 for what is getting close to a year now with no problems at all.

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Re: CF cards: how fast is needed?
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2005, 12:12:05 AM »
I've got Best Buy reward zone money to blow so what exactly should I be looking for?  For an R1.
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Re: CF cards: how fast is needed?
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2005, 01:26:42 PM »
I had great success with the Kingston Pro Elite 4GB CF type I (45x) card in my Fostex fr-2. Relatively cheap too. I got mine for under 200 dollars.

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Re: CF cards: how fast is needed?
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2005, 02:31:58 PM »
yea, thats the card to get in terms of price vs. performance.

but the matter is, what is the speed good for?
it wont write the data any faster than the resolution requires.
so its all about having a good usb2 or firewire CF transfering station?
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Re: CF cards: how fast is needed?
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2005, 03:14:15 PM »
I think you are right. There shouldn't be a problem as long as the card meets the minimum requirement for a write speed at the high resolution audio. Fostex has tested different CF cards with various speeds and they seem to work fine.

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Re: CF cards: how fast is needed?
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2005, 01:44:44 PM »
As already asked here, I'm wondering if getting something faster (for faster transfers) eats up battery life and thus it's better get a slower card.

Anyone?

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Re: CF cards: how fast is needed?
« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2005, 04:37:46 PM »
I dont think so.  nothing is "working harder", its just faster by design.
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