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favorite pre to run behind schoeps
« on: August 28, 2007, 01:15:42 PM »
just curious what pre's folks like behind schoeps.

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Re: favorite pre to run behind schoeps
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2007, 01:19:05 PM »
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Re: favorite pre to run behind schoeps
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2007, 02:43:31 PM »
i like the schoeps >v2 combo

really depends on the caps as well

i ran CCM4v>psp2 and liked the results surprisingly
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Re: favorite pre to run behind schoeps
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2007, 04:47:16 PM »
would schoeps and anything 'warm" just creat mud?  Do Schoeps need something fast and transparent behind em?
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Re: favorite pre to run behind schoeps
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2007, 11:34:44 PM »
i wouldnt say that. the apogee ad1000 was on the 'warm' side, and that was some of the best recordings ever made.

i prefer the grace v2/v3

would schoeps and anything 'warm" just creat mud?  Do Schoeps need something fast and transparent behind em?

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Re: favorite pre to run behind schoeps
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2007, 11:45:37 PM »
I like the Apogee sound behind Schoeps as well. Can't go wrong with a V2 either.  8)
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Re: favorite pre to run behind schoeps
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2007, 08:54:18 AM »
another vote for schoeps > V2. a lot of people like schoeps > m248 as well.

going straight into the 722 has been more common for me lately cause it still sounds great and the setup is minimal.

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Re: favorite pre to run behind schoeps
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2007, 10:18:01 AM »
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Re: favorite pre to run behind schoeps
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2007, 10:27:28 AM »
v2/v3

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Re: favorite pre to run behind schoeps
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2007, 12:25:46 PM »
m148 or a Sonosax is what I prefer.
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Re: favorite pre to run behind schoeps
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2007, 12:38:43 PM »
Schoeps offer transparency and neutrality, so any pre will work great with them.
What you are trying to record should determine what pre you use with them.

For taping live shows at a distance, something more transparent like the Grace stuff will work the best.
The Oade, Apogee camp is distinctly wamer and they also sound terrific with Schoeps.
That warmth is a bit of a trade off for clarity though, so it just depends on what YOUR ears like.

I would be in the transparent/transparent camp for any taping situation, but if using them in the studio, I would usually take the other tack and run them through a vintage style pre like the API 3124+ or Great River (neve clone) to give them body and fullness they won't quite achieve with the Grace pre. In that case, you are looking for more warmth and the Schoeps are very adaptable to that. I have found that I quite often add top end to the mixes later to open up the sound a bit.
They are on the darker side of the spectrum, so to hear all of that clarity you have to accentuate it a bit sometimes.
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Re: favorite pre to run behind schoeps
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2007, 01:00:42 PM »
I would vote Sound Devices Mix Pre with Schoeps personally. I have one & while it isn't the best fit for my mic it sounds surprisingly a lot like a 248 plus it has a nice warm transformer sound to the lower octaves. I have been listening to mine & when I finally put my finger on it I felt it sounded like all my old 481>248 recordings (bright). I would love for someone to try mine with a pair of MK4's before I sell it, my best MK4 tapes were with my 248, I preferred it over my 148 with the Schoeps.
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Re: favorite pre to run behind schoeps
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2007, 02:01:02 PM »
I would love for someone to try mine with a pair of MK4's before I sell it, my best MK4 tapes were with my 248, I preferred it over my 148 with the Schoeps.
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Re: favorite pre to run behind schoeps
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2007, 02:53:39 PM »
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