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have decided on buying a taping rig am pretty set on the edirol R09 need help with the mics have about 200-300 dollars to spend on mics maybe more if i can sell my fender hot rod deluxe amp and about the preamp or battery box also a dumb question i looked at the edirol it only has one input for mics but have read alot about getting a pair of mics alhough matched mics seem much more expencive are they really crucial to have and how would they be run into the edirol any and all suggestions are greatly apricitated as i know that this hobby is all about trial and error but would like to put together something fairly solid fo around 600 to 800 dollars if possible  P.S. what a great place for a begginer to get started will keep reading up just looking for a starting point that i won't totally regret

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this would be an excellent starter rig........

http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,85389.0.html

buy a stand and some rechargable batts and you're golden....
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thats a lot of continuous words(period) its sort of hard to follow(period)
the r09 is a nice little unit(period)
contact chris church - church audio, for mics and preamp(period)
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this would be an excellent starter rig........

http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,85389.0.html

buy a stand and some rechargable batts and you're golden....


I agree.
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this would be an excellent starter rig........

http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,85389.0.html

buy a stand and some rechargable batts and you're golden....


I agree.

Intended use is an important consideration.

If you'll be open taping, then the rig recommend by Goodcooker and Kindguy is 'better' for that use.  If you'll be mostly stealthing, then the smaller mics/pre is more appropriate.

thats a lot of continuous words(period) its sort of hard to follow(period)
the r09 is a nice little unit(period)
contact chris church - church audio, for mics and preamp(period)
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:-X Come on guys, let's not chase away a newbie asking for advice.  Let's give Zappapenn at least a little break.

Zappapenn: please be more grammatical, m'kay.


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He would be one to check with for tips on the grammer also..... 8)

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Yes, for stealthing go with the Church Cards and batt box.
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AT933/C

Batt-Boxes, Pre-amps:
CA-9100

Recorders:
Edirol R-09
iRiver H120 (CF Modded)
Sony MZ-RH910 Hi-MD

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+T for finding your way here.  The R-09 has only one mic in plug, but it is stereo, so you will end up with cables that will join the left and right, and then go into the 1/8" plug.   The R-09's A/D converter is pretty good from everyone's perspective, especially in a starter rig, so you really only need to be concentrating on the mics, and battery box or mini-preamp.  Chris Church's stuff is a good place to start looking.  Also check the Yard Sale section for used gear for sale.  Don't rush, even though you might want to, it is better to listen to some mics and pre mixes from etree or the archive, so that you can hear how they sound.  Your first investment in this hobby, will likely not be your last.  Once you get hooked, it is a non-stop process of moving up the ladder--piece by piece--until, someday, you have the dream rig you always wanted.  I am just about there.   8)
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this would be an excellent starter rig........

http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,85389.0.html

buy a stand and some rechargable batts and you're golden....

to many periods ;)
Mics - AKG ck61/ck63 (c480b & Naiant actives), SP-BMC-2
XLR Cables - Silver Path w/Darktrain stubbies
Interconnect Cables - Dogstar (XLR), Darktrain (RCA > 1/8) (1/8 > 1/8), and Kind Kables (1/8f > 1/4)
Preamps - Naiant Littlebox & Tinybox
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I can vouch for the Church Audio Gear teamed up with and R-09.  Makes for a nice rig both open and stealth.

Have a listen.......  (oops too many periods?)  >:D

BTW my entire rig, mics, preamp, r-09, stand, bag, home-made shock mount and kwon bar ran me right around $800.  So it can be done!


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Source: CA stc-11 cards > CA 9100 > Edirol R-09
Location: FOB
Transfer: R-09 > USB > Audacity > CD Wave > Flac
Taper: h4nk3f4n


Set 1

D01T01 A Million Miles From Yesterday
D01T02 Thorazine Shuffle
D01T03 Temporary Saint
D01T04 Time To Confess
D01T05 Devil Likes It Slow
D01T06 32/20 Blues
D01T07 Wine & Blood
D01T08 Soulshine

Set 2

D01T09 Rocking Horse
D02T01 Gameface->Moutain Jam->Gameface
D02T02 Perfect Shelter
D02T03 Streamline Woman->
D02T04 Drums
D02T05 If Loving You Is Wrong, I Don't Want To Be Right
D02T06 Like Flies
D02T07 Blind Man In The Dark

Encore
D02T08 So Weak, So Strong


« Last Edit: June 01, 2007, 01:32:40 PM by h4nk3f4n »
CA stc-11 cards > CA 9100 > Edirol R-09

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Re: newbie first rig have a budget and have researched some HELP!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2007, 02:05:27 PM »
Well, if we're going yo start being the grammar police, I'm going to have at it!!!  Nothing like totally derailing a thread in order to avoid work!   :o

this would be an excellent starter rig........

http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,85389.0.html

buy a stand and some rechargable batts and you're golden....

to many periods ;)

Improper use of the word "to".  Should be, "too," in this instance.  But you are correct that there are too many periods in his sentence.

He would be one to check with for tips on the grammer also..... 8)

Grammar misspelled as "grammer"!    :o   Nearly as bad as misspelling "misspelling"!!!  (Which, of course, I haven't, because in order to avoid even more work, I looked it up).  ;)

Now, to rerail this thread, Church mics are a great option, or whatever.  Tons of options available to you (oops -  that's hyperbole).  A number of decent options available to you in this price range. 

Now how's THAT for work avoidance!!!  I've added absolutely no value to the thread!   ;D
Light weight: Sound Pro AT 831 or MBHO's > tinybox > D7 or Samson PM4's > Denecke PS-2 > D7
Slutty weight:  [MBHO MBP 603A + (KA100LK/KA200N/KA500HN)] and/or [AKG C 414 b xls (omni/sub-card/card/hyp/8)]  > Hi Ho Silver xlr's/other xlr's > Oade T & W Mod R-4 or UA-5 (BM2p+ mod.) or JB3 or D7

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Re: newbie first rig have a budget and have researched some HELP!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2007, 02:30:41 PM »
Don't rush, even though you might want to, it is better to listen to some mics and pre mixes from etree or the archive, so that you can hear how they sound.  Your first investment in this hobby, will likely not be your last.  Once you get hooked, it is a non-stop process of moving up the ladder--piece by piece--until, someday, you have the dream rig you always wanted.

More true words are rarely spoken.

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Re: newbie first rig have a budget and have researched some HELP!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2007, 03:09:54 PM »
+T dean
you got me :)
Mics - AKG ck61/ck63 (c480b & Naiant actives), SP-BMC-2
XLR Cables - Silver Path w/Darktrain stubbies
Interconnect Cables - Dogstar (XLR), Darktrain (RCA > 1/8) (1/8 > 1/8), and Kind Kables (1/8f > 1/4)
Preamps - Naiant Littlebox & Tinybox
Recorders - PCM-M10 & DR-60D

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Re: newbie first rig have a budget and have researched some HELP!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2007, 05:05:15 PM »
Well, if we're going yo start being the grammar police, I'm going to have at it!!!  Nothing like totally derailing a thread in order to avoid work!   :o

this would be an excellent starter rig........

http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,85389.0.html

buy a stand and some rechargable batts and you're golden....

to many periods ;)

Improper use of the word "to".  Should be, "too," in this instance.  But you are correct that there are too many periods in his sentence.

He would be one to check with for tips on the grammer also..... 8)

Grammar misspelled as "grammer"!    :o   Nearly as bad as misspelling "misspelling"!!!  (Which, of course, I haven't, because in order to avoid even more work, I looked it up).  ;)

Now, to rerail this thread, Church mics are a great option, or whatever.  Tons of options available to you (oops -  that's hyperbole).  A number of decent options available to you in this price range. 

Now how's THAT for work avoidance!!!  I've added absolutely no value to the thread!   ;D
how about the spelling police??.... (very fifth word)   :P ;)

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Re: newbie first rig have a budget and have researched some HELP!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2007, 05:12:55 PM »
Enter Mr. Garrison...

"Play nice children, m'kay."  :flack:

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« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2007, 11:10:58 PM »
Touche`.  T's around!
Light weight: Sound Pro AT 831 or MBHO's > tinybox > D7 or Samson PM4's > Denecke PS-2 > D7
Slutty weight:  [MBHO MBP 603A + (KA100LK/KA200N/KA500HN)] and/or [AKG C 414 b xls (omni/sub-card/card/hyp/8)]  > Hi Ho Silver xlr's/other xlr's > Oade T & W Mod R-4 or UA-5 (BM2p+ mod.) or JB3 or D7

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Re: newbie first rig have a budget and have researched some HELP!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2007, 03:13:55 AM »
Some serious thread-jacking going on here.  The poor guy was asking for rig advice, not an english lesson.  Maybe he needed a little help there, so perhaps he should joint Team Internet Grammar.  ::)
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« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2007, 08:33:09 AM »
thanks to the people who gave me some advice................................to everyone else i'm glad i could amuse you.
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« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2007, 10:21:50 AM »
Hey zappapenn, thanks for taking it the right way.  First thing you'll notice on this site is the loads and loads of great info.  Right after that you'll notice we take any chance we can to screw around and have fun!  Welcome to the board!   ;D
Light weight: Sound Pro AT 831 or MBHO's > tinybox > D7 or Samson PM4's > Denecke PS-2 > D7
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« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2007, 12:51:43 PM »
+T for finding your way here.  The R-09 has only one mic in plug, but it is stereo, so you will end up with cables that will join the left and right, and then go into the 1/8" plug.   The R-09's A/D converter is pretty good from everyone's perspective, especially in a starter rig, so you really only need to be concentrating on the mics, and battery box or mini-preamp.  Chris Church's stuff is a good place to start looking.  Also check the Yard Sale section for used gear for sale.  Don't rush, even though you might want to, it is better to listen to some mics and pre mixes from etree or the archive, so that you can hear how they sound.  Your first investment in this hobby, will likely not be your last.  Once you get hooked, it is a non-stop process of moving up the ladder--piece by piece--until, someday, you have the dream rig you always wanted.  I am just about there.   8)

Just about there?  You've got 170's, a V3 and a 722.  How much further do you expect you need to go?

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