Author Topic: What y splitter does oade use for the 7-pin? (Read 7180 times)

Kevin · « **on:** October 11, 2003, 09:36:50 PM »

Just wanted to know if anyone knew what y splitter oade uses on there 7-pin active cable, thanks in advance
Kevin

Kevin · « **Reply #1 on:** October 12, 2003, 01:05:14 PM »

haha thank

you know what its called? (specifically b/c i cant find anyone like it)

Kevin · « **Reply #2 on:** October 12, 2003, 01:22:22 PM »

can you hook up a link?

Kevin · « **Reply #3 on:** October 12, 2003, 01:46:09 PM »

I just bought another 7-pin from pro digital and since my other isnt working I want to mod it and make it like an oade one, I just need to find the y-splitter
Edit: and +T for the help brother

Kevin · « **Reply #4 on:** October 12, 2003, 01:58:15 PM »

Quote from: Moke on October 12, 2003, 01:51:05 PM

btw;
http://www.taperssection.com/yabbse/index.php?action=modifykarma;karmaAction=applaud;uid=724

huh

zhianosatch · « **Reply #5 on:** October 12, 2003, 02:03:21 PM »

that link gives yuo good karma
and where the HELL is prodigital located on the internet? got a url?

Kevin · « **Reply #6 on:** October 12, 2003, 02:26:48 PM »

oh sorry im slow

im getting the link right now ill post in 1 sec

Mic D · « **Reply #7 on:** October 12, 2003, 02:29:26 PM »

Quote from: zhianosatch on October 12, 2003, 02:03:21 PM

that link gives yuo good karma
and where the HELL is prodigital located on the internet? got a url?

www.prodigitalinc.com

Kevin · « **Reply #8 on:** October 12, 2003, 02:33:55 PM »

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3052385211&category=3281
heres one for 75 on ebay 2 days left, They changed mine to 2 right angles

zhianosatch · « **Reply #9 on:** October 12, 2003, 02:34:14 PM »

THANK YOU!

utahtaper · « **Reply #10 on:** October 12, 2003, 02:56:20 PM »

Hey Kevin,
The Y splitter is available at Rat Shack. There is two types, a phono 1/4 stereo to two rca mono and there is also an rca mono that splits to two rca mono.

Kevin · « **Reply #11 on:** October 12, 2003, 02:58:06 PM »

preciate it

Kevin · « **Reply #12 on:** October 12, 2003, 03:07:58 PM »

http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&category%5Fname=CTLG%5F011%5F003%5F001%5F001&product%5Fid=274%2D304
this is the closest one i can find, can you hook up a link?

utahtaper · « **Reply #13 on:** October 12, 2003, 03:16:35 PM »

That is exactly it. You need to drill out the rivet first, then drill a hole directly through where the rivet is. But the whole has to be smaller than the rivet. So you need two drill bit sizes to do it.

utahtaper · « **Reply #14 on:** October 12, 2003, 03:49:56 PM »

I have one of those as well and I don't believe you can take them apart. I'm sure they are solid core. The other Y adapter has actual guts with wires and such....

DaryanLenz · « **Reply #15 on:** October 12, 2003, 04:48:07 PM »

It doesn't look so hard...what is a rivet?

Daryan

Simp-Dawg · « **Reply #16 on:** October 13, 2003, 12:20:51 PM »

isn't the idea of the oade cable to have one input and one output? so you wouldn't necessarily just want a splitter, right? since you don't want the same signal going to both jacks.

Kevin · « **Reply #17 on:** October 13, 2003, 01:53:44 PM »

Quote from: Simp-Dawg on October 13, 2003, 12:20:51 PM

isn't the idea of the oade cable to have one input and one output? so you wouldn't necessarily just want a splitter, right? since you don't want the same signal going to both jacks.

right. But then what does oade do to have one in and then having the signal coming out of the deck?

blu666z · « **Reply #18 on:** October 13, 2003, 02:00:43 PM »

Is the output coming from the deck? I assumed it was just passing the signal through from the input side.

-Kevin

Simp-Dawg · « **Reply #19 on:** October 13, 2003, 02:10:47 PM »

i guess this is why oade can charge so much for their cables, cuz we don't know how they work!

Brian Skalinder · « **Reply #20 on:** October 13, 2003, 02:37:39 PM »

Quote from: blu666z on October 13, 2003, 02:00:43 PM

Is the output coming from the deck? I assumed it was just passing the signal through from the input side.

The Oade cable does not split the incoming signal. The signal path is:

7-pin input > deck > 7-pin output NOT / deck 7-pin input< \ 7-pin output

Brian · « **Reply #21 on:** October 13, 2003, 02:49:12 PM »

can you explain your diagrams a little more because i thought the oade cable just split the incoming signal. would like to know how they actually work.

Thanks,
Brian

Kevin · « **Reply #22 on:** October 13, 2003, 02:54:25 PM »

also why cant you recieve a signal from both the output and input?

Brian Skalinder · « **Reply #23 on:** October 13, 2003, 03:22:47 PM »

Quote from: Kevin on October 13, 2003, 02:54:25 PM

also why cant you recieve a signal from both the output and input?

You're kidding, right? I think that's what those rolling eyes are for.

Quote from: STL-Taper on October 13, 2003, 02:49:12 PM

can you explain your diagrams a little more because i thought the oade cable just split the incoming signal. would like to know how they actually work.

The Oade cable definitely does not just split the incoming signal.

[1] In order to pass a digital signal out of the Oade cables, the deck into which the 7-pin is plugged MUST be on and recording. If it is off or not recording, then no signal is passed out of the 7-pin. This is because the signal goes in the coax, through the 7-pin into the deck, then back out the 7-pin to the coax out.

[2] If the Oade cable just split the incoming signal, you'd be able to run signal in through the coax and out through the other coax without the 7-pin even plugged in (or the 7-pin plugged into a deck that isn't recording). However, that isn't how it works. This is why, when the lead deck's batteries die, the following decks in the chain get hosed as well. If the Oade cable simply split the signal, the downstream decks would be fine. Try it sometime when you have a couple decks available - it's easy to test that it doesn't simply split the signal.

The diagrams are just a way of expressing shorthand the signal paths [1,2] I described above (sorry, I screwed up my diagrams before...no wonder they were confusing!):

[1]
coax input > 7-pin into deck > 7-pin out of deck > coax output

[2]
/ 7-pin into deck coax input \ coax output

utahtaper · « **Reply #24 on:** October 14, 2003, 10:51:51 AM »

Brian is right on the money. I think the chain looks a little more like this:

coax input > 7-pin into deck > deck > 7-pin out of deck > coax output

The signal always passes throught the deck first. Even on a passive cable. But that is why the active is better. The cable helps the deck process the incoming signal to the correct voltage thus cutting down on the likelyhood of jitter. Jitter actually comes into play when you just split the signal using a Y splitter spoke of earlier in this thread. I only use the Y splitter as a last resort. I think there is a possibility of data loss when splitting digital signal using a Y splitter.

Brian Skalinder · « **Reply #25 on:** October 14, 2003, 11:32:42 AM »

Quote from: utahtaper on October 14, 2003, 10:51:51 AM

I think the chain looks a little more like this:

coax input > 7-pin into deck > deck > 7-pin out of deck > coax output

Dang, I'm 0 for 3 on this one. What he said!

Brian · « **Reply #26 on:** October 14, 2003, 01:12:25 PM »

interesting.....thanks for the knowledge guys!

Peace,
Brian

Author Topic: What y splitter does oade use for the 7-pin? (Read 7180 times)

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