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Re: Church Audio CA9200 - levels question
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2015, 08:03:19 PM »
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Re: Church Audio CA9200 - levels question
« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2015, 08:18:45 PM »
and be sure to go into the line in on the m10 coming out of the 9200 not the mic in
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Re: Church Audio CA9200 - levels question
« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2015, 02:46:26 AM »
don't you want to use as much gain first before adding 'volume'?  Wouldn't that add noise?

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Re: Church Audio CA9200 - levels question
« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2015, 08:34:11 AM »
don't you want to use as much gain first before adding 'volume'?  Wouldn't that add noise?

Same question here, got the 9200 primarily because of the secure gain setting, but the volume button can be (accidently) moved (in stealth mode). I was thinking: volume way out, than some tape over that knob, and adjust gainknob from that point on (with M10 at unity 4/5). Looking for confirmation on this.
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Re: Church Audio CA9200 - levels question
« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2015, 03:19:55 AM »
I often use the same gear (with omni) as boombox.
What I do is to simply turn CA-9200 vol to max and set Edirol around 60 (line input). Its usually good.
If I need a little more/less input, I usually set it on Ediriol, because I check the level on that gear, so its already in my hand...
I set extra gain on CA-9200 if I needed much more input.
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Re: Church Audio CA9200 - levels question
« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2015, 10:21:18 AM »
I've just ordered a CA9200, and would like to know how big it is so I can consider if my camera bag is big enough, but can't find any size info anywhere.

Does anybody know the dimensions of the CA9200?
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Re: Church Audio CA9200 - levels question
« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2015, 02:31:02 PM »
From the tip of the knobs to the bottom, it is 4 1/2" tall. 2 1/2" wide (side to side across the front), and 1 1/8" deep (front to back.)

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Re: Church Audio CA9200 - levels question
« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2015, 02:44:41 PM »
Thanks for that danny3, about the same as the M10 then.
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Re: Church Audio CA9200 - levels question
« Reply #23 on: August 26, 2015, 10:16:45 AM »
Thanks for that danny3, about the same as the M10 then.

The 9200 is "slightly" wider and "slightly" shorter, I love mine (great for stealth!)!

Did just get a Littlebox though......

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Re: Church Audio CA9200 - levels question
« Reply #24 on: August 27, 2015, 10:54:14 AM »
That's why the output level is there because you can set your gain range and lower the output if needed with out a huge jump. You can also go into attenuation for devices like a camera where you get the gain you need and then attenuate the output so as not to freak out the agc of the camera or overload the fragile mic input. This allows total flexibility for all kinds of inputs. I obviously need to make a user manual the only problem is I can illustrate very well at all ;)
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Re: Church Audio CA9200 - levels question
« Reply #25 on: August 27, 2015, 11:04:15 AM »
hi chris, the design is good and a second knob gives full flexibility. However, as a paranoid stealthtaper it would be even better if that on/off knob can somehow be set firm. so it wont move anymore (think stealthsituation)... but difficult to make i guess...
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Re: Church Audio CA9200 - levels question
« Reply #26 on: September 04, 2015, 09:48:50 AM »
hi chris, the design is good and a second knob gives full flexibility. However, as a paranoid stealthtaper it would be even better if that on/off knob can somehow be set firm. so it wont move anymore (think stealthsituation)... but difficult to make i guess...
Its not that easy of a knob to move by it self. As a matter of fact I have never had someone complain that they moved it by accident. Locking knobs are extreamly expensive and defeat the purpose of the knob it self :_) being able to quickly adjust the knob when acoustic levels change quickly as can be the case going from say an opening act to a headlining act.  Its very easy to say lets put this in or that in. But at the end of the day at this price point you aren't going to get all the bells and whistles. :) What you are getting is a low noise flat frequency response high gain compact preamp cheaper than anyone else is selling one ;) I can at customers request remove that pot all together and put in little trim pots but thats a ugly 2 preamp and maybe for customers that are paranoid with adjustments... Thats the preamp for them because that does not have a pot it only has a gain switch like the 9200. Another solution that is so simple it hurts.. Is take the knob off the level adjustment. You can still use the pot but I guarantee that cant move by it self unless you are doing aerobics lol but it will be much more difficult to move with your fingers.
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Re: Church Audio CA9200 - levels question
« Reply #27 on: September 04, 2015, 11:20:48 AM »
I use a STC-9200 in low pro situations and agree with Chris about the volume knob, it's not easy to move. In fact I would say it would probably be easier to move if it was in a bag with other gear that might be jostled around a bit. In the low pro situations, there are input and outputs on either side of the knob "protecting" it from being moved, so IMO a bigger concern would be cables pulling out of their place. I've actually had that happen but I don't think I've ever accidentally turned the volume off or down.

My setup is CA-14s/Cards > STC-9200 > DR-2d(line in), sometimes with CA-14s > UBB > DR2d(mic in). I have the STC-9200 set to +15 db and have never had an issue with overloading at those settings. I think the CA-14s > STC-9200 +15 db > DR-2D line always peaks around -8db for the loudest shows (metal) I attend. In fact sometimes I have to amplify by 12 to 15 db in post. I'm wondering - would +30db on the STC-9200 be too much? I've recorded with the STC-9200 set to +30db but it seems risky. The only time I've used the +45db setting was for bluegrass outdoors, it seemed even +30 would result in low levels.
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Re: Church Audio CA9200 - levels question
« Reply #28 on: September 12, 2015, 04:05:18 PM »
I use a STC-9200 in low pro situations and agree with Chris about the volume knob, it's not easy to move. In fact I would say it would probably be easier to move if it was in a bag with other gear that might be jostled around a bit. In the low pro situations, there are input and outputs on either side of the knob "protecting" it from being moved, so IMO a bigger concern would be cables pulling out of their place. I've actually had that happen but I don't think I've ever accidentally turned the volume off or down.

My setup is CA-14s/Cards > STC-9200 > DR-2d(line in), sometimes with CA-14s > UBB > DR2d(mic in). I have the STC-9200 set to +15 db and have never had an issue with overloading at those settings. I think the CA-14s > STC-9200 +15 db > DR-2D line always peaks around -8db for the loudest shows (metal) I attend. In fact sometimes I have to amplify by 12 to 15 db in post. I'm wondering - would +30db on the STC-9200 be too much? I've recorded with the STC-9200 set to +30db but it seems risky. The only time I've used the +45db setting was for bluegrass outdoors, it seemed even +30 would result in low levels.

And for guys who will be moving around plenty I offer 3 pin locking Mini xlr as an option for connections how ever each pair of mics must be terminated to a 3 pin mini xlr. Making the use of my preamp mandatory for operation of my mics.
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