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Sonosax SX-32 AES digital out > Tascam DR680 Coax In
« on: April 13, 2015, 05:54:00 AM »
Anyone know if these units play will together? Anyone have some first hand knowledge?

I am well aware that you can use an impedance converter but some units work with a simple XLR > RCA cable.
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Re: Sonosax SX-32 AES digital out > Tascam DR680 Coax In
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2015, 09:08:26 AM »
I have tried and am certain that they don't work together. I am not sure if changing the sx-m32 internal jumper to spdif will help. What's interesting to me is that my sx-r4 will accept the dr-680 AES out.
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Re: Sonosax SX-32 AES digital out > Tascam DR680 Coax In
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2015, 09:10:38 AM »
I have tried and am certain that they don't work together. I am not sure if changing the sx-m32 internal jumper to spdif will help. What's interesting to me is that my sx-r4 will accept the dr-680 AES out.

Do you have any more details on the internal jumper?  Seems like something I could do myself.  I did it on my Luntec V3 changing the 12v > 6v jumper.
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Re: Sonosax SX-32 AES digital out > Tascam DR680 Coax In
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2015, 09:48:27 AM »
Per Sonosax, they are not user adjustable and requires that the unit be sent in for service. I don't think they publish it for that reason. The basic problem is that the DR-680 requires a header on the digital signal to read the bit and sample rate and Sonosax and many other units do not provide this. No cable is going to fix it. I know because I tried the impedance matching cable idea.
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Re: Sonosax SX-32 AES digital out > Tascam DR680 Coax In
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2015, 09:59:22 AM »
Per Sonosax, they are not user adjustable and requires that the unit be sent in for service. I don't think they publish it for that reason. The basic problem is that the DR-680 requires a header on the digital signal to read the bit and sample rate and Sonosax and many other units do not provide this. No cable is going to fix it. I know because I tried the impedance matching cable idea.

Well hopefully the jumper switch works as I purchased one today from a company in the Netherlands.  They are going to switch the jumper for me since my plan is to run it with the DR-680. 
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Re: Sonosax SX-32 AES digital out > Tascam DR680 Coax In
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2015, 11:02:26 AM »
Nice score!!  Your probably gonna want to sell me your SX-M2  ;D

Edit:  I had a weird issue with the mixpre-d I owned.  When running it AES>Coax in on the R-44 it would only pass a 24/96 signal.  SD tech said it was a problem with the R-44 not accepting AES signal, but he couldn't seem to explain why it passed a signal at 24/96, but not 24/48 or 24/44.1.  I got frustrated with their support and sold it.
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Re: Sonosax SX-32 AES digital out > Tascam DR680 Coax In
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2015, 11:39:10 AM »
Per Sonosax, they are not user adjustable and requires that the unit be sent in for service. I don't think they publish it for that reason. The basic problem is that the DR-680 requires a header on the digital signal to read the bit and sample rate and Sonosax and many other units do not provide this. No cable is going to fix it. I know because I tried the impedance matching cable idea.

Well hopefully the jumper switch works as I purchased one today from a company in the Netherlands.  They are going to switch the jumper for me since my plan is to run it with the DR-680.

Congrats and good luck feeding it to the Tascam. I know Lynchie on here is trying to get it to mate with an R-44 with no luck yet. It worked fine when I tried it with various other gear I have. It even worked fine with a MicroTrack II recorder.
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Re: Sonosax SX-32 AES digital out > Tascam DR680 Coax In
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2015, 11:49:30 AM »
Congrats and good luck feeding it to the Tascam. I know Lynchie on here is trying to get it to mate with an R-44 with no luck yet. It worked fine when I tried it with various other gear I have. It even worked fine with a MicroTrack II recorder.

If not I will sell it off.  My plan was to have it for the digital channels, 7/8 on the Tascam, then I could sell off the ad2k+.
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Re: Sonosax SX-32 AES digital out > Tascam DR680 Coax In
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2015, 08:47:34 AM »
Per Sonosax, they are not user adjustable and requires that the unit be sent in for service. I don't think they publish it for that reason. The basic problem is that the DR-680 requires a header on the digital signal to read the bit and sample rate and Sonosax and many other units do not provide this. No cable is going to fix it. I know because I tried the impedance matching cable idea.

Well hopefully the jumper switch works as I purchased one today from a company in the Netherlands.  They are going to switch the jumper for me since my plan is to run it with the DR-680.

No go  :(  The two units don't work together, even with the internal SPDIF switch.
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Re: Sonosax SX-32 AES digital out > Tascam DR680 Coax In
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2015, 02:14:03 PM »
The Trashcan manual lists their DR680 digiIN as IEC60958-3 (S/PDIF) or AES3-2003/ IEC60958-4 (AES/EBU) automatically determined with supported recording and playback formats BWF: 16/24-bit, 44.1/48/96/192 kHz WAV: 16/24-bit, 44.1/48/96/192 kHz.

The Sonosax manual lists their SX-32 digiOUT as AES/EBU, transformer balanced, 3 Volts pp under 110 ohms internally switchable to SPDIF format with sampling at 48kHz and 96Khz at 24 bits, internally switchable to 48Khz 16 bits and 96kHz/24bits or 48kHz/24bits and 192kHz/24bits.
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