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Re: 722 users....a/d stage opinions?
« Reply #60 on: August 07, 2005, 10:02:20 AM »
marc - your tapes are great, really, really nice... I definitely look forward to hearing one of your recordings, and there's only a handful of other tapers who fall into that category

if you like the rig the playback is the way to go.... I'm with Boswell.

also I think you can stretch your dollar futher in playback gear 8)

Scott's knopfler tape is really nice, I listen to that one quite regularly... scott would also be in that handful of tapers :)

thanks for the fluff tim. ;D wife gave me a look when I brought up the upgrade, she knows that means > volume. 8)

It meant the exact opposite for me.  I can listen at lower volumes and hear what I'm looking for as opposed to listening on something with less detail where I've got to turn it up to hear the detail...  YMMV, but that's one of the major plus's for me.  Doesn't mean that you still won't want to turn it up, but its not as necessary.

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Re: 722 users....a/d stage opinions?
« Reply #61 on: August 07, 2005, 11:20:04 AM »
marc - your tapes are great, really, really nice... I definitely look forward to hearing one of your recordings, and there's only a handful of other tapers who fall into that category

if you like the rig the playback is the way to go.... I'm with Boswell.

also I think you can stretch your dollar futher in playback gear 8)

Scott's knopfler tape is really nice, I listen to that one quite regularly... scott would also be in that handful of tapers :)

thanks for the fluff tim. ;D wife gave me a look when I brought up the upgrade, she knows that means > volume. 8)

It meant the exact opposite for me.  I can listen at lower volumes and hear what I'm looking for as opposed to listening on something with less detail where I've got to turn it up to hear the detail...  YMMV, but that's one of the major plus's for me.  Doesn't mean that you still won't want to turn it up, but its not as necessary.

makes sense. I do have to turn way up to hear detail now.

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Re: 722 users....a/d stage opinions?
« Reply #62 on: August 19, 2005, 12:58:12 AM »
i've enjoyed reading this thread.


i am going to a 722. i am sick of the big 12v batteries to power my ad2k+. Its great. i love it, but i'm sick of lugging it like a mule. I've ran the ho's > mp2 > ad2k for quite a while now, but i am ready to move on to yes - the more simple solution.
I may down the line grab a v2 to run in front, but IMHO the MP2 and the pre in the 722 are about equal. so for now i think the ho's>722 will be a great solution for me and make my life easier.
no patchers though - was nice when i ran the 2k @ 24bit i could still give dat patchers a feed. those days will be gone w/ the 722. But i am really stoked for it, and i will likely hold on to my ad2k+ for a bit...
 carry less shit, party harder. :)

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Re: 722 users....a/d stage opinions?
« Reply #63 on: August 19, 2005, 07:47:31 AM »
congrats Ian...+T for new gear!

as for the MP2 and 722 comparisons...I wouldnt say they are about equal...actually I would argue that the 722 pre is somewhere in between the MP2 and V2....heavy on the bottom en but alot more detail at the mids and highs than I got with my MP2...enjoy!

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Re: 722 users....a/d stage opinions?
« Reply #64 on: August 19, 2005, 08:41:47 AM »
Ian-  I wonder if there won't be a bigger market for the ad2k+ in some other pro audio forums such as gearslutz or whatever it's called?  it's such a quality piece of gear, but i think you'll be hard pressed to find someone in this community looking to drop that kind of cash just for the a>d.  maybe drop a retailer a line (such as frank @ cascade) and see if you might be able to work out a consignment deal with him.  i know he gets some traffic from people beyond just tapers.  just a thought, i think in this market it may be tough to move here.

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Re: 722 users....a/d stage opinions?
« Reply #65 on: August 19, 2005, 09:18:39 AM »
I'll have a v3 vs. 722 A/D comparison up this weekend. Who's got my tracker? :)
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Re: 722 users....a/d stage opinions?
« Reply #66 on: August 19, 2005, 10:24:05 AM »
I'll have a v3 vs. 722 A/D comparison up this weekend. Who's got my tracker? :)

you need a place to put it up Matt??

you can use my DaD account if you want.

or I can do the trackerless thing for you.

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Re: 722 users....a/d stage opinions?
« Reply #67 on: August 19, 2005, 10:48:10 AM »
thanks tim!

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Re: 722 users....a/d stage opinions?
« Reply #68 on: August 19, 2005, 11:19:15 AM »
Ian-  I wonder if there won't be a bigger market for the ad2k+ in some other pro audio forums such as gearslutz or whatever it's called?  it's such a quality piece of gear, but i think you'll be hard pressed to find someone in this community looking to drop that kind of cash just for the a>d.  maybe drop a retailer a line (such as frank @ cascade) and see if you might be able to work out a consignment deal with him.  i know he gets some traffic from people beyond just tapers.  just a thought, i think in this market it may be tough to move here.

as much as i need the cash - i don't really want to sell it. so any excuse to keep it in my hands is ok by me :) :) :)


i should be able to do some nice comps. I have access to another pair of MBHO's here in town - and will likely do some comps for some shows around town

mbho603a/ka200n>mp2>ad2k+>fujitsu @ 24bit
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mbho603a/ka200n>722

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Re: 722 users....a/d stage opinions?
« Reply #69 on: August 19, 2005, 11:26:07 AM »
Ian-  I wonder if there won't be a bigger market for the ad2k+ in some other pro audio forums such as gearslutz or whatever it's called?  it's such a quality piece of gear, but i think you'll be hard pressed to find someone in this community looking to drop that kind of cash just for the a>d.  maybe drop a retailer a line (such as frank @ cascade) and see if you might be able to work out a consignment deal with him.  i know he gets some traffic from people beyond just tapers.  just a thought, i think in this market it may be tough to move here.

as much as i need the cash - i don't really want to sell it. so any excuse to keep it in my hands is ok by me :) :) :)


i should be able to do some nice comps. I have access to another pair of MBHO's here in town - and will likely do some comps for some shows around town

mbho603a/ka200n>mp2>ad2k+>fujitsu @ 24bit
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mbho603a/ka200n>722



hey more power to ya if you can swing it.  while i'm spending your money, why not just get a 744t so you can do the comps in one box?? :P

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Re: 722 users....a/d stage opinions?
« Reply #70 on: August 19, 2005, 11:47:49 AM »
Ill buy that AD2K+ when your ready IAN....
4022>v2>722
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Re: 722 users....a/d stage opinions?
« Reply #71 on: August 19, 2005, 12:04:54 PM »
mbho603a/ka200n>mp2>ad2k+>fujitsu @ 24bit
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mbho603a/ka200n>722

I'd say to make a more valid comparison, use one set of mics and do:

mbho603a/ka200n > 722 > analog out > ad2k + fujitsu
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mbho603a/ka200n > 722
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Re: 722 users....a/d stage opinions?
« Reply #72 on: August 19, 2005, 01:34:42 PM »
mbho603a/ka200n>mp2>ad2k+>fujitsu @ 24bit
vs
mbho603a/ka200n>722

I'd say to make a more valid comparison, use one set of mics and do:

mbho603a/ka200n > 722 > analog out > ad2k + fujitsu
vs.
mbho603a/ka200n > 722

will do....

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CCM4v (pair)
mk6 (pair) and mk41 (pair) with kc5's & cmc6's
mk21 (1) for those M/S situations

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Sound Devices 722
Edirol R-01

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Re: 722 users....a/d stage opinions?
« Reply #73 on: August 19, 2005, 08:01:15 PM »
mbho603a/ka200n>mp2>ad2k+>fujitsu @ 24bit
vs
mbho603a/ka200n>722

I'd say to make a more valid comparison, use one set of mics and do:

mbho603a/ka200n > 722 > analog out > ad2k + fujitsu
vs.
mbho603a/ka200n > 722

 Yeah but even though your going analog out of the 722 the signal still passes through the digital gain stage of the 722.


I’m pretty sure this is how it work ;-) ..
4022>v2>722
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Re: 722 users....a/d stage opinions?
« Reply #74 on: August 19, 2005, 08:07:06 PM »
mbho603a/ka200n>mp2>ad2k+>fujitsu @ 24bit
vs
mbho603a/ka200n>722

I'd say to make a more valid comparison, use one set of mics and do:

mbho603a/ka200n > 722 > analog out > ad2k + fujitsu
vs.
mbho603a/ka200n > 722

 Yeah but even though your going analog out of the 722 the signal still passes through the digital gain stage of the 722.


I’m pretty sure this is how it work ;-) ..

is that right?
hm, so it MAY be better to run 2 sets of MBHO's on the same stand

1 set >>722
and the other >>mp2>>ad2k+>computer

i know two other tapers with MBHO's here in LA.

ian
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CCM4v (pair)
mk6 (pair) and mk41 (pair) with kc5's & cmc6's
mk21 (1) for those M/S situations

Preamps:
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Recorders:
Sound Devices 722
Edirol R-01

My Recordings on archive http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=%22ian%20stone%22

 

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