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NEW: Behringer C4 cardioid pencil condenser pair
« on: January 27, 2009, 06:05:29 PM »
In the Leaving mics outside overnight topic, I mentioned the Behringer C2 mic pair, since they sound good and are only $90. My only gripe with them is self-noise is a little high for ambient & quiet acoustic instrument work, however everyone needs a pair of disposable condensers IMO :)

Behringer just launched what looks to be the next step up...EDIT $99 USD...3 dB more sensitive at C2 = -41 dBV vs C4 = -38 dBV. If the S/N is similarly improved these should be a steal.

         

http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/C-4.aspx

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"Whats in the box" ... some C4 officer!

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Country   Price
US   NORTH AMERICA    USD$ 99.99
UK   UNITED KINGDOM MSRP incl. 15% VAT    £ 63.00
SE   SWEDEN MSRP incl. 25% VAT kr 799.00
PT   PORTUGAL MSRP incl. 20% VAT € 83.00
NO   NORWAY MSRP incl. 25% VAT   € 86.00
NL   NETHERLANDS MSRP incl. 19% VAT   € 82.00
LU   LUXEMBOURG MSRP incl. 15% VAT   € 79.00
JP   MSRP incl. 5% Sales Tax ¥ 12,495.00
IT   ITALY MSRP incl. 20% VAT € 83.00
IE   IRELAND MSRP incl. 21% VAT   € 83.00
GR   GREECE MSRP incl. 19% VAT   € 82.00
FR   FRANCE MSRP incl. 19.6% VAT € 83.00
FI   FINLAND MSRP incl. 22% VAT   € 84.00
ES   SPAIN MSRP incl. 16 % VAT   € 80.00
DE   GERMANY MSRP incl. 19% VAT € 82.00
CH   SWITZERLAND MSRP incl. 7.6% VAT CHF 115.00
BE   BELGIUM MSRP incl. 21% VAT   € 83.00
AU   RRP Incl. 10% GST AUD$ 139.99
AT   AUSTRIA MSRP incl. 20% VAT   € 83.00
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Re: NEW: Behringer C4 cardioid pencil condenser pair
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2009, 02:09:44 AM »
$99 US for a pair...cant go wrong!
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Re: NEW: Behringer C4 cardioid pencil condenser pair
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2009, 03:19:23 AM »
$99 US for a pair...cant go wrong!

Indeed. The C-2's sound far better than they should...so...
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Re: NEW: Behringer C4 cardioid pencil condenser pair
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2009, 03:27:23 AM »
Cardioi :hmmm:d?  That logo on the side is the universal geek symbol for Hypers.   $99 hypers?  Oh yeah.
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Re: NEW: Behringer C4 cardioid pencil condenser pair
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2009, 11:01:11 PM »
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Re: NEW: Behringer C4 cardioid pencil condenser pair
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2009, 11:48:59 PM »
$99 US for a pair...cant go wrong!

Indeed. The C-2's sound far better than they should...so...


The worst mic I have ever owned...I felt guilty selling them to another unsuspecting anonymous person...

Cool little package though...

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Re: NEW: Behringer C4 cardioid pencil condenser pair
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2009, 12:32:39 AM »

The worst mic I have ever owned...I felt guilty selling them to another unsuspecting anonymous person...


What didn't you like about them?

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Re: NEW: Behringer C4 cardioid pencil condenser pair
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2009, 02:01:07 AM »

The worst mic I have ever owned...I felt guilty selling them to another unsuspecting anonymous person...


What didn't you like about them?

digifish

Hey Digifish, Could we get a sample of your c2's while waiting for the specs on the c4 to show up?

Thanks!

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Re: NEW: Behringer C4 cardioid pencil condenser pair
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2009, 02:20:31 AM »

The worst mic I have ever owned...I felt guilty selling them to another unsuspecting anonymous person...


What didn't you like about them?

digifish

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Hey Digifish, Could we get a sample of your c2's while waiting for the specs on the c4 to show up?

Thanks!

You can listen to a field recording of some ducks here... http://www.freesound.org/samplesViewSingle.php?id=39712 :)

And the sea http://www.freesound.org/samplesViewSingle.php?id=41313 , nice way to hide self noise :P

I don't have any concerts tho. Just looking through my archives for stuff recorded with them...

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Re: NEW: Behringer C4 cardioid pencil condenser pair
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2009, 08:31:49 AM »

The worst mic I have ever owned...I felt guilty selling them to another unsuspecting anonymous person...


What didn't you like about them?

digifish

too brash...electret-ish sound...thin...Illconditioned took one apart and published a rather dismal review of their electronics.

my only outing with them:
http://www.archive.org/details/tgo2006-07-01.behringerc2

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Re: NEW: Behringer C4 cardioid pencil condenser pair
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2009, 08:56:19 AM »
"electret sound"  ::) . . . the C4 is an externally biased condenser, as all of Behri's C range are . . . in fact, I think their only electret is the ECM8000.

And so? - Im characterising the sound...not the technology

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Re: NEW: Behringer C4 cardioid pencil condenser pair
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2009, 11:37:39 PM »

The worst mic I have ever owned...I felt guilty selling them to another unsuspecting anonymous person...


What didn't you like about them?

digifish

too brash...electret-ish sound...thin...Illconditioned took one apart and published a rather dismal review of their electronics.

my only outing with them:
http://www.archive.org/details/tgo2006-07-01.behringerc2


They are an electret mic.  That is not what makes them bad.. there are a lot of good electrets out there, including many of the DPA 40xx series!  The problem is that it is a poor quality capsule, and poor quality electronics.  Not terrible, but not worth using for a recording either.  Where would I use these?  As a pair of live mics, eg., on an out of tune upright piano.  Then you don't care if they're ripped off.

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Re: NEW: Behringer C4 cardioid pencil condenser pair
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2009, 12:16:27 AM »
Heres some more C-2 recording from a pair of C-2's into a R09 sound ok to me...

http://www.archive.org/details/gertrude2007-11-27.flac16

http://www.archive.org/details/gertrude2008-08-06.flac16

...I can certainly hear the rooms in these, much bigger issue than the mics.
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