Topic: using church audio mics without a preamp...

[firemt66]

If I'm going to a rock show,using new batteries, mic plugged into the mic in spot,is a preamp nessercary?(i have a church audio ugly 2) the preamp just powers the mics,right?.. so if the recording levels are good without  a preamp there shouldnt be any distortion,right? Just trying to figure if I really need to sneak in the preamp as well as the recorder/mics...I finally am sort of happy how im clipping the mics,so my next show will hopefully  be using the mics I bought almost a year ago..thanks for any and all opinions..scott

[hoppedup]

If I'm going to a rock show,

Rock show = use a pre-amp

Your recorder's PIP is likely 5V or less (3V on many)

You MIGHT be okay depending on the volume of the show, but why take the risk when the Ugly 2 is so small?

[jagraham]

If I'm going to a rock show,using new batteries, mic plugged into the mic in spot,is a preamp nessercary?(i have a church audio ugly 2) the preamp just powers the mics,right?.. so if the recording levels are good without  a preamp there shouldnt be any distortion,right? Just trying to figure if I really need to sneak in the preamp as well as the recorder/mics...I finally am sort of happy how im clipping the mics,so my next show will hopefully  be using the mics I bought almost a year ago..thanks for any and all opinions..scott

Not always correct. It's more likely to occur with a board feed but you can certainly have low levels with major distortion.

I would just use the pre. You'll regret not using it when you have a distorted recording. If the ugly pre II is too bulky for your purpose I recommend a UBB.

[firemt66]

Thanks for the responses..well I bought the ugly 2 so I might as well use it..line in input, prob set for 10 or 15 gain then adjust  recording level on the m10

[Chrisedge]

Thanks for the responses..well I bought the ugly 2 so I might as well use it..line in input, prob set for 10 or 15 gain then adjust  recording level on the m10

I run my 9200 at 15 gain and my M10 at 4 or so...and tape loud shows.

[Fatah Ruark (aka MIKE B)]

If you can't sneak a small recorder + a ugly into a rock show you need to work on your technique! ...I'm not a big guy and I have no issues getting my Tinybox + M10 into shows.

PM me if you need any help. I have family in town, so I might not respond right away...but I'm happy to help with some tips. I don't post tips into threads since some people here are sensitive about sharing techniques.

[robeti]

If you can't sneak a small recorder + a ugly into a rock show you need to work on your technique! ...

I agree

[firemt66]

I have no problems getting my dat or m10 recorders and mics in for the last 15 years just asking  bout the preamp now that I have that and ca 14 mics to sneak in

[robeti]

I have no problems getting my dat or m10 recorders and mics in for the last 15 years just asking  bout the preamp now that I have that and ca 14 mics to sneak in

So? What has changed? Nothing. Sneak in the amp or battery box as well and you are ready for taping.
If you have no problems getting in the gear, I don't really understand why you would want to tape without a pre or battery box to be honest.

[The Other Chris]

I have run ca-11 cards>r09 mic in for arena shows like Radiohead & Roger Waters without any problems. 

[Church-Audio]

If I'm going to a rock show,using new batteries, mic plugged into the mic in spot,is a preamp nessercary?(i have a church audio ugly 2) the preamp just powers the mics,right?.. so if the recording levels are good without  a preamp there shouldnt be any distortion,right? Just trying to figure if I really need to sneak in the preamp as well as the recorder/mics...I finally am sort of happy how im clipping the mics,so my next show will hopefully  be using the mics I bought almost a year ago..thanks for any and all opinions..scott

don't use my mics with out a battery box.