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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #360 on: May 26, 2017, 11:56:50 AM »
One thing that threw me for a loop is that this records in poly wave files.  I have only had experience with a wave file for each channel or stereo pair.  So, when I saw there was only one file for each dry run test I did, I was like, WTF?  Called SD support and they educated me on poly wave files. Popped it up in audicity and all became clear.

no option for standard wave files?  anyone know if wavelab 6 can handle these?  found some old post saying it couldn't.  Then found some that maybe in montage it will open them.
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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #361 on: May 26, 2017, 11:57:31 AM »
Poly wave files are not too bad. Just use the free Sound Devices wave agent program to make stereo tracks if that's what your editing program requires. It takes about 5-10 seconds to make a stereo track for a 90 minute recording
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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #362 on: May 26, 2017, 12:00:12 PM »
I've just encountered an issue with a Transcend 64GB SDXC card, in the MixPre-6. Obviously, as Murphy's Law would have it, it was the first card I attempted to use with it. While sending off a short video to Sound Devices tech support, I tested another card (a 32GB SanDisk Extreme Pro) that seems to work just fine. While Sound Devices has not yet put up a fully approved media list for the new MixPre recorders, it would be wise to heed Paul Isaacs' previous suggestion in this thread:

"I would highly recommend these Sound Devices one's as they have been optimized for use in our gear ...
https://www.amazon.com/Sound-Devices-SAM-32SD-32GB-Card/dp/B01MUS45W4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1495225059&sr=8-2&keywords=sound+devices+sam

There is no approved media list as of yet. Having said that most SanDisk and Delkin SD cards with minimum specs of class 10 have proven to work fine so far".



This, was the offending card:

https://www.amazon.com/Transcend-Class-UHS-1-Memory-TS64GSDXC10U1/dp/B00AFTV3FC

...and, this one works fine for me:

https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-UHS-I-Memory-SDSDXPA-032G-AFFP/dp/B007NDL56A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1495820158&sr=8-1&keywords=sandisk+32gb+sdhc+95mb%2Fsec

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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #363 on: May 26, 2017, 01:45:54 PM »
Pretty much any DAW these days can work with poly files - Protools, Cubase, Logic, Reaper, Audacity, Adobe blah blah. If Wavelab still can't handle polys, then as someone mentioned,
you can easily de-interleave using our free Wave Agent application   
https://www.sounddevices.com/products/accessories/software/wave-agent


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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #364 on: May 26, 2017, 01:47:28 PM »
I've just encountered an issue with a Transcend 64GB SDXC card, in the MixPre-6.


What is the issue? Make sure the card is formatted using the MixPre-6.

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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #365 on: May 26, 2017, 01:59:42 PM »
Pictured below, with a SD MixPre-D, inside a Sachtler #SN607 (small) audio bag

Thanks for posting that! I have the same bag (actually, the Petrol PS607, which I understand is basically identical except for some cosmetic details). I figured from the measurements that it would be a good fit, but nice to see a picture. I assume you had the 4 x AA sled attached? Looks like there is enough room to accomodate the 8 x AA as well?

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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #366 on: May 26, 2017, 02:27:10 PM »

What is the issue? Make sure the card is formatted using the MixPre-6.

It was formatted in the MP-6. It seemed like it was hesitating, initializing the unit. The LED rings and SD logo would take turns blinking, but it would not go into the menu screen, til the card was popped out. All ok, now. Obviously a card issue.
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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #367 on: May 26, 2017, 02:36:14 PM »

...I assume you had the 4 x AA sled attached? Looks like there is enough room to accomodate the 8 x AA as well?

Yes, that's right. Plenty of room, for larger sled and/or rechargeable(s). Super nice, minimalist bag. I used to have the much larger PS617, but that's overkill unless you need to carry lots of additional stuff. Sound Devices also makes the CS-3:

https://www.sounddevices.com/products/accessories/carrying-cases/cs-3

... which they say is "for use with 302, 7-Series recorders and MixPre-D". Maybe Paul can chime in, whether a dedicated bag is in the works, but I'm all set!
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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #368 on: May 26, 2017, 02:45:46 PM »
^ Thanks again!

Can anyone help me out here on the 3?  I am confused on how many channels it can record.  The manual says, "The MixPre-3 can record up to five audio tracks at 96kHz, 24-bit to SD cards
(SD, SDHC, or SDXC) using the industry standard .WAV file format."

I would like to use 2 of the XLR inputs for mics and the stereo mini in for a stereo soundboard.  Can it record 4 separate tracks? 

I am pretty sure the 3 can only record three individual tracks plus a LR mix (totaling 5).  The 6 can record 6 individual tracks plus the LR mix (8 in total), so you could use the 1/8" input like you describe on the 6 but not the 3.

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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #369 on: May 26, 2017, 03:56:32 PM »
^ Thanks again!

Can anyone help me out here on the 3?  I am confused on how many channels it can record.  The manual says, "The MixPre-3 can record up to five audio tracks at 96kHz, 24-bit to SD cards
(SD, SDHC, or SDXC) using the industry standard .WAV file format."

I would like to use 2 of the XLR inputs for mics and the stereo mini in for a stereo soundboard.  Can it record 4 separate tracks? 

I am pretty sure the 3 can only record three individual tracks plus a LR mix (totaling 5).  The 6 can record 6 individual tracks plus the LR mix (8 in total), so you could use the 1/8" input like you describe on the 6 but not the 3.

Thank you! I am really thinking about grabbing one of these decks.
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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #370 on: May 26, 2017, 04:00:46 PM »
I had the same problem with a 64gig PNY card.  Used a 32gig Transend and it works.  Anyone having success with a 64gb or larger card?  If so, what model?? 


What is the issue? Make sure the card is formatted using the MixPre-6.

It was formatted in the MP-6. It seemed like it was hesitating, initializing the unit. The LED rings and SD logo would take turns blinking, but it would not go into the menu screen, til the card was popped out. All ok, now. Obviously a card issue.
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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #371 on: May 26, 2017, 04:21:56 PM »
Hi All!  I've been a lurker here for awhile mainly to get tips on audio.  I'm a filmmaker and not an audio professional.  But obviously, audio is a big issue for me.  I did a quick record between the Zoom F8 and the Mixpre-3 here in case you're interested.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFj4FocN8mA

Also a shout-out to TED who's actually made an AES cable for me when I was fiddling with the MixPre-D and a Marantz recorder.  I ended up buying the Zoom F8, which I wouldn't have if Sound Devices came out with the MP3/6 back then.  LOL.

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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #372 on: May 26, 2017, 05:30:20 PM »
 Anyone having success with a 64gb or larger card?  If so, what model??
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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #373 on: May 26, 2017, 05:39:55 PM »
Anyone having success with a 64gb or larger card?  If so, what model??

Seems odd if these didn't support the same cards as the 6xx mixers. The list generally vets Sandisk and Delkin cards

https://www.sounddevices.com/support/approved-media/6-series-approved-media-list


I was planning on using a Sandisk Extreme Pro 128GB card
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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #374 on: May 26, 2017, 05:48:36 PM »
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