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Gear / Technical Help => Recording Gear => Topic started by: Chuck on February 15, 2006, 07:01:37 PM
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Marantz PMD 671 info here...
Continued from:
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=52751.360
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if memory serves this is part 3!!!
neil in san marcos
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looks like i'm gonna bite the bullet on Monday and buy an ACM 671. Payday is Friday, but they are closed. That will give me 3 weeks to get a couple CF cards.
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if memory serves this is part 3!!!
neil in san marcos
Yeah, you're right... the first thread had a different name... not Marantz... in the field... should I change it?
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looks like i'm gonna bite the bullet on Monday and buy an ACM 671. Payday is Friday, but they are closed. That will give me 3 weeks to get a couple CF cards.
We'll be running the same rig... unless you're keeping the w-mod.
My only gripe so far... I wish Doug disabled the on board speaker.
edit: for spelling.
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I'm gonna keep the UA5 and run it occasionally. For the most part though i'll be running AKG 480 (ck61/ck63) > ACM PMD-671.
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I'm gonna keep the UA5 and run it occasionally. For the most part though i'll be running AKG 480 (ck61/ck63) > ACM PMD-671.
Me too ;)
I'm actually entertaining the idea of getting some C-4's again. I see they will be selling hyper-cardioid caps soon. I really liked them when I owned them... and they are so inexpensive.
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That will give me 3 weeks to get a couple CF cards
yeah and the plain jane sandisc is working for me and newegg has them for $144 for 4G. i thought 200 two weeks ago was good.
My only gripe so far... I wish Doug disabled the on board speaker.
dunno but the speaker does not bother me... i don't use it at all... but if memory serves, you can remove the cover on the left top (4 screws) and i think you can unplug the speaker that way. i took mine apart when i first got it... that was a while ago, if i get time i will pop the cover and post tomorrow. just unplug the speaker lead and use a small piece of GOOD double stick to glue it somewhere out of the way. and in retrospect, maybe doug should make that an option when he works on them.
Yeah, you're right... the first thread had a different name... not Marantz... in the field... should I change it?
nah
neil in san marcos
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My only gripe so far... I wish Doug disabled the on board speaker.
that's so you can listen to the show back at the hotel !
On the 660 I usually listen to the show on the walk back to the hotel. Then I grab a few beers & head to the car, pull out the old mini to tape cassette converter and listen to it on the car stereo!
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posting here so i can keep up w/ the thread. i love my stock 671. :D
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I'm gonna keep the UA5 and run it occasionally. For the most part though i'll be running AKG 480 (ck61/ck63) > ACM PMD-671.
+t Lee! We've got two ACM 671s in Austin now... Just make sure they know you want the ACM... They sent me the AM by mistake ;)
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My only gripe so far... I wish Doug disabled the on board speaker.
that's so you can listen to the show back at the hotel !
On the 660 I usually listen to the show on the walk back to the hotel. Then I grab a few beers & head to the car, pull out the old mini to tape cassette converter and listen to it on the car stereo!
For me, I listen on headphones, so esteyes suggestion may work for me.
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Well, my transcend 120X 4gb card does not work. I formatted it and all was well. I tried to transfer a dat and it seemed to be fine. When I tried to playback, I got E7. It works fine with the 64 mb card they included. One Kingston 45X comeing right up. Dammit! another week until I can use the thing.
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Anybody tried a sandisk ultra II 60X series card. I found a 8gb for 393. Thanks-Kevin
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Doug is backed up, cuz o' you guys ordering them. STOP IT!!!! I now have to wait 3 weeks for my mods. Day-um!
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that card should work, i got the tascam and i am going to buy that card as well, they will have it for 340 from mwave.com
jon
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kevin wrote
Well, my transcend 120X 4gb card does not work. I formatted it and all was well. I tried to transfer a dat and it seemed to be fine. When I tried to playback, I got E7. It works fine with the 64 mb card they included. One Kingston 45X comeing right up. Dammit! another week until I can use the thing.
kevin, you need to format the card with the 671, then run the speed test and see if you get the same read/write numbers. let us know what you get. if the numbers come up the same, i would retry recording... please let us know what happens.
UPS just came to the door. major chub time! here are some pix
(http://members.cox.net/esteyes/100_0426.jpg)
(http://members.cox.net/esteyes/100_0427.jpg)
(http://members.cox.net/esteyes/100_0428.jpg)
sorry if the pix are too big. i had to figure out how to enable my cox webspace and then figure out how to upload - remember i am an old man who still listens to records :-))
neil in san marcos
btw, this thing is awesome. hope it sounds as good. testing tonite
(http://members.cox.net/esteyes/100_0429.jpg)
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that card should work, i got the tascam and i am going to buy that card as well, they will have it for 340 from mwave.com
jon
Jon:
What's with .moe skipping Denver this Spring? I need some .moe!
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anybody know how much an extra battery sled for this costs?
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I notice my AM/PM indicator flashes all the time. I set the Time/Date, but it flashes AM/PM in all the the other display modes ???
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I ran the speed test on the transcend card and the numbers matched, and were very high. The memory store is claiming that this card could be from a bad batch. I sent if back so they can check the serial numbers. If it is, I told them I'd try another one out. The sandisk is backodered for a couple weeks so I thought I try another one from transcend. If this doesn't work I'll get a refund and buy a Kingston. I'll let y'all know how it comes out
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Card Check:
Kingston ELITE PRO 45x Compact Flash
4GB
Read: 7891
Write: 7891
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I just placed my order with Doug. T minus 3 weeks and counting!!!!
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I just placed my order with Doug. T minus 3 weeks and counting!!!!
+t. i frickin love mine.
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I just placed my order with Doug. T minus 3 weeks and counting!!!!
+T!
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I just placed my order with Doug. T minus 3 weeks and counting!!!!
Lee's moving up in the world! +T
Now, I'll give you a patch. ;D
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Any input on going rca in, as opposed to xlr? I am THRU waiting for a modded Bbox terminated in xlr. I understand the balanced/unbalanced issue, thanks to Jason Reiser, and want to make sure there's nothing else I need to think about if I go that route.
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i go rca in to my stock 671.
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OK, i'm just about to order a flash card. What kind should I get? Anybody using the Viking or PNY cards or should I just go ahead and get the kingston 45X?
bhphotovideo.com has Lexar 133X 4GB for 229.00. Has anyone tried this card? It's between this and the 45X kingston for 194.00. Any suggestions?
Thanks-Kevin
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hey Kevin grab this one: http://www.onsale.com/onsale/shop/detail~dpno~505818.asp
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i would go w/ kingston. ymmv.
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I grabbed the Kingston for now. i may get one of those 8gb sandisks also. I assume someone has used these successfully? Let me know how it comes out.
re: my transcend card. They said my first one might have been from a bad batch. I got another one and it didn't work either. So much for that.
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Pat (fanosix) has been using a Sandisc Ultra II for a while now with 0 problems.
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hey Kevin grab this one: http://www.onsale.com/onsale/shop/detail~dpno~505818.asp
Lee
Thanks for the tip, just ordered mine. I'll let people know if there probs w/ this 8gb card.
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OK, i'm just about to order a flash card. What kind should I get? Anybody using the Viking or PNY cards or should I just go ahead and get the kingston 45X?
bhphotovideo.com has Lexar 133X 4GB for 229.00. Has anyone tried this card? It's between this and the 45X kingston for 194.00. Any suggestions?
Thanks-Kevin
I can tell you that the Kingston Elite 45x works for me at 24 bit/48 kHz. I don't know about the other ones...
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I can tell you that the Kingston Elite 45x works for me at 24 bit/48 kHz. I don't know about the other ones...
QFT
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Question:
I taped a Verdi Requiem dress reh this evening, and during this VERY dynamic piece in the Dies Irae when the bass drum is wailing away, I can only imagine I'm clipping. The meters say O, but it doesn't go to over. What is the difference between a good solid O and Over? i'll post a flac if y'all would like to hear some of this piece. I'm finding that dress rehearsals ar the best time to tape. I can prop up my jdisc between seats in the theater and I don't have annoying coughs and shit in the tape.
Anway, what's an Over? And how does it relate to 'headroom?' Thanks,
Andrew
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Question:
I taped a Verdi Requiem dress reh this evening, and during this VERY dynamic piece in the Dies Irae when the bass drum is wailing away, I can only imagine I'm clipping. The meters say O, but it doesn't go to over. What is the difference between a good solid O and Over? i'll post a flac if y'all would like to hear some of this piece. I'm finding that dress rehearsals ar the best time to tape. I can prop up my jdisc between seats in the theater and I don't have annoying coughs and shit in the tape.
Anway, what's an Over? And how does it relate to 'headroom?' Thanks,
Andrew
From experience it appears that sometimes clipping is present but not audible. It is still there, however, and maybe future playback systems will reveal it, maybe not, but it should be avoided in 24-bit mode. Personally, I don't mind a little in 16-bit, especially if I'm there to monitor it.
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Something strange...
I charged up 8 NiMH AA's, put them in the PMD671 battery carrrier, then into the deck on Thursday. I'll be recording tonight, so when packing everything up, I turned the deck on (anal retentive checking) and the screen shows low battery's... (actually very low, because it shut down soon after) It's wierd, because this is the second time this has happened. I checked each battery before I pulled them from the charger (LaCroose BC-900u) and the batteries were fully charged. My question... is it possible that leaving the phantom power switch ON (which I did on both occasions), would drain the batteries if the deck is OFF? This is the only reasonable way I can explain the batteries getting drained after only a couple of days in the recorder. Lucky I have more NiMH AA's charged for tonight.
I guess I'm going to have to do some testing/checking tomorrow... :-\
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Chuck, mine has done the exact same thing. I re=charged batts, which lasted 3 mins and then re-inserted, and all was fine. The batt type is correctly set too. I wonder if the housing on the sled isn't fitting right. There have been a couple times when I put in freshly charged batts and get NOTHING. Upon inspection, i find that the sled needs to always be firmly pressed into its housing.
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Hmmm... well, my solution (for now) is, I'm going to leave the sled out of it until show time.
What you said about the sled not seating properly may be it... maybe the batteries are shorting somehow ???
Tomorrow, I'll look into it better...
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Hmmm... well, my solution (for now) is, I'm going to leave the sled out of it until show time.
What you said about the sled not seating properly may be it... maybe the batteries are shorting somehow ???
Tomorrow, I'll look into it better...
Looking at the sled, I see there are exposed metal grommets on the side opposite the +/- power side. In the sled compartment on the recorder there are two metal "pushers" that keep the sled up against the power inputs. It looks like it may be possible that one of the exposed grommets can make contact with one of those metal pushers... I just put a piece of black electrical tape over the grommets on my sled, in case that is indeed the problem. More to come tomorrow...
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has anyone tried a 6gb hitachi microdrive in a 671 yet? i have a couple already and am hoping i don't have to sell them.
Did not work in the PMD660!!! Doug expressed he didn't approve of microdrives for the 660 but not sure on the 671.
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has anyone tried a 6gb hitachi microdrive in a 671 yet? i have a couple already and am hoping i don't have to sell them.
Get one of these http://dealmac.com/deals/San-Disk-Ultra-II-8-GB-Compact-Flash-Card-for-329/110962.html?ref=alert I am now considering a 671 because I saw this. My biggest concern was not having enough room if I go out of town or something but with that card things are looking up :coolguy: :clapping:. I know there are storage devises out there but I like not having another link in the chain.
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Anyone ever used one of these cards in a 671? I would of course like to know for a fact if it works. It's not a microdrive so I'm sure it would, right?
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has anyone tried a 6gb hitachi microdrive in a 671 yet? i have a couple already and am hoping i don't have to sell them.
Get one of these http://dealmac.com/deals/San-Disk-Ultra-II-8-GB-Compact-Flash-Card-for-329/110962.html?ref=alert I am now considering a 671 because I saw this. My biggest concern was not having enough room if I go out of town or something but with that card things are looking up :coolguy: :clapping:. I know there are storage devises out there but I like not having another link in the chain.
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Anyone ever used one of these cards in a 671? I would of course like to know for a fact if it works. It's not a microdrive so I'm sure it would, right?
Don't be scared of the storage devises, they are sweet. I have a 4GB card and my storage devise works fine. If you're running 8GB at 24bit you're still going to need it for a three show run.
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I had battery sled failure last night.
I have the battery type in the PMD671 menu set for NiMH.
I brought two sets of NiMH to the show:
8 Powerizer 2250 mAh
8 iPower 2300 mAh
I started with the 2250's in the sled and the 2300's in an outboard battery pack, plugged into the DC outlet.
During the opener about an hour in, my levels disappeared completely.
I checked the phantom power switch. It was still engaged.
I stopped and started the recorder, still no levels...
I turned the recorder on and off and still no levels...
I pulled the outboard DC power pack jack out. Now the deck told me the internal batteries were depleted. (The battery indicator was just an outline, flashing) Then the deck shut itself off. Thinking I was totally screwed and not having my small Radio Shack VOM, I couldn't measure the batteries, so I took all the 2250 mAh batteries out of the sled and loaded them into the external pack and plugged the jack in... WALLA... power and levels again! I got through the next band, Cracker's set just fine. So the recorder was giving me a false reading on the internal batteries ???
When I got home I measured the 2300's that were in the outboard pack and they were indeed depleted.
In my previous tests, the internals always took over without a hitch from the external batteries, when the external batteries were deplete, which they were in this case. That didn't happen for some reason.
The conclusion that I'm drawing is that the internal sled is unreliable in the PMD671 with the NiMH batteries I am using.
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chuck, fwiw, i have not had these problems w/ the same powerex batts. wish i could help. +t :-\
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chuck, fwiw, i have not had these problems w/ the same powerex batts. wish i could help. +t :-\
Hmmm...
Funny that you mention the PowerEx brand.
I have 8 of the 2500 mAh PowerEx NiMH. Those are the ones I used to do my testing originally.
It looks like I'm going to have to use the PowerEx batteries in the sled and always use the others in the external pack.
I'll have to get out my calipers and start measuring all these batteries to see if they differ somehow. Aren't battery dimensions standardized? Don't answer... I think I know... >:(
I guess we need to start a list of what works and what doesn't work as far as power for this thing. Maybe we can get a fix for the problem? Maybe Marantz could fix the sleds?
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very early on in this thread (like the real part one) i posted a bunch of comment on the battery sled issue using NoMemPro 2000, 2300, and 2500 NiMH batteries. i found i could pinch the deck in the middle of the battery cover and the deck would shut down... i also posted that i went to the Comes A Time greek show and went thru 48 AA batteries in the course of that day... total pain. i do not trust the battery sled and NiMH battery combo using anything more than the 2000 NMP batteries i possess. i have not had issues running the 671 on alkaline batteries in the tray.
anyway i am using an external battery to avoid all the crap. i use either a 14.8v LiION pack or a 12v SLA.
ran the new Sony DMX-P01 last nite into the 671 for derek trucks. jeez, what a nice sounding, easy to use mixer. guess i will be selling the shure fp33...
neil in san marcos
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very early on in this thread (like the real part one) i posted a bunch of comment on the battery sled issue using NoMemPro 2000, 2300, and 2500 NiMH batteries. i found i could pinch the deck in the middle of the battery cover and the deck would shut down... i also posted that i went to the Comes A Time greek show and went thru 48 AA batteries in the course of that day... total pain. i do not trust the battery sled and NiMH battery combo using anything more than the 2000 NMP batteries i possess. i have not had issues running the 671 on alkaline batteries in the tray.
anyway i am using an external battery to avoid all the crap. i use either a 14.8v LiION pack or a 12v SLA.
ran the new Sony DMX-P01 last nite into the 671 for derek trucks. jeez, what a nice sounding, easy to use mixer. guess i will be selling the shure fp33...
neil in san marcos
Yeah, Neil I do remember that post.
I'm calling Marantz tomorrow to see what they say...
I really want to use this thing with internal NiMH batteries...
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I really want to use this thing with internal NiMH batteries...
yeah so did i. it thought it would be great to not have to haul an external battery any more. hell the sony comes with two machined aluminum battery holders. thought out perfectly, absolutely easy to use and bulletproof.
so maybe i will order the Marantz internal NiMH and see how that works. i seem to remember that someone found a ratshack battery holder that worked in the 671. will have to go back thru the thread and maube look into that. might be a cheap way to modify a sled to find the real solution to this crappy problem.
please post D&M's reply.
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will do
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Well... Marantz says they don't support any batteries other than the rechargable sled they sell. He did say he hasn't heard of anybody else having a problem with NiMH batteries though... He offered no other options than to buy the rechargable sled.
I did some measurements last night and it looks to me like the plastic bumper they put on the live side of the sled may be pushing the sled contacts too far away from the recorder side contacts.
I may try to solder some very small washers onto the sled side, to make them stick out more and make better contact. Finding solderable washers that are conductive may be a problem though ??? Plus soldering to something that's in contact with plastic may not be so easy without melting the plastic and ruining the sled ...any other ideas?
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I have been using 2500 mah Powerex batteries with the internal sled (I have two) and haven't ran into any problems yet. I also have the Marantz RB1651 NiMH battery pack and that's worked fine as well..... but I get more time with the rechargeable AA's, so that's mainly what I've been using.
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I have been using 2500 mah Powerex batteries with the internal sled (I have two) and haven't ran into any problems yet. I also have the Marantz RB1651 NiMH battery pack and that's worked fine as well..... but I get more time with the rechargeable AA's, so that's mainly what I've been using.
Yeah, that's weird, but my 2500 mAh PowerEx NiMH work fine in mine too, but not the others...
I talked to Doug Oade and he recommended the Duracell rechargables. He said the work fine in his 671.
I don't really want to ruin my sled, so I'll probably just use the 2500's in it all the time and use the others as backups externally.
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My other problem is, the pmd will also short out my walmart lion. Sometimes upon hookup, it just throws the internal breaker in it for no reason. I think it HAS to be connected to this sled problem we're having. I think it's shorting out the AA's too.
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I just bought a set of these. I'll let y'all know how they work. Anybody familiar with these:
http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product=4035099
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My other problem is, the pmd will also short out my walmart lion. Sometimes upon hookup, it just throws the internal breaker in it for no reason. I think it HAS to be connected to this sled problem we're having. I think it's shorting out the AA's too.
Yes, I've experienced that it drains the batteries when it's turned off as well.
I always leave the phantom power switch on. I forgot to check if it is still generating 48v when the power is off.
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My other problem is, the pmd will also short out my walmart lion. Sometimes upon hookup, it just throws the internal breaker in it for no reason. I think it HAS to be connected to this sled problem we're having. I think it's shorting out the AA's too.
this exact thing happened to me when i first got my v3. it shorted the walmart batt's every time i turned it on, without fail. they had to be plugged into the charger to be reset.
my retarded ass finally realized it was b/c i was leaving the p48 engaged when turning it off/on and when i powered up the unit without phantom on it worked fine. i'm damn lucky i didn't fry my mics. :yikes:
try powering up the box and then turning on phantom after, it fixed my "problem".
Quote from: TenoRichards on Today at 02:52:42
My other problem is, the pmd will also short out my walmart lion. Sometimes upon hookup, it just throws the internal breaker in it for no reason. I think it HAS to be connected to this sled problem we're having. I think it's shorting out the AA's too.
Yes, I've experienced that it drains the batteries when it's turned off as well.
I always leave the phantom power switch on. I forgot to check if it is still generating 48v when the power is off.
Yes, I'm going to test this when I get home from work. This may also be the reason the batteries get drained just sitting in the sled with the power off.
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**unscientific test**
i charged the powerexes up and left them in the 671 w/ phantom off ( i never use it anyway) for a couple days. it took over an hour to charge them all back up. so, in conclusion, the nimh batts discharge either way it seems.
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acm mod unit ordered today
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it is my understanding (and correct me if im wrong) that any piece of gear purchased through oade is eligible for a modification at a later date..
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it is my understanding (and correct me if im wrong) that any piece of gear purchased through oade is eligible for a modification at a later date..
exactly why i want to buy it stock at this point. however, there is no listing for a stock box. :)
I'm pretty sure you can buy a stock unit... A couple of poeple have.
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I bought mine stock originally $850 shipped from the Oades. I've heard the price went down, but that info may be unreliable.
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I put a VOM to the internal DC contacts on the 671 when it was turned off. I measured a resistance. Maybe this is what is draining the batteries?
I just e-mailed Marantz about this battery issue. I'll post the response. They are going to get sick of hearing from me I bet. :P
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battery sled issues and marantz has been around forever. my PMD430 had some batteries "leak" so i sent the unit into the manufacturer of the batteries for a replacement - they used to do that years ago - and they sent it to marantz who told me that it was my fault because i left the batteries in the machine when using the wallwart. supposedly, the extra tab in the tray for charging the oem nicad was making contact with the alkalines and thus caused the batteries to leak and thus they would not warranty the unit. what a crock! eventually i got thru to someone with a brain and got a new unit. at least i didn't have the contact issues i am having now.
and somewhere in this thread there is mention that early on marantz had warrantied a couple of sleds. i remember talking to D&M about it when i first got my unit.
my unit came from the first oade shipment and is unmodd'ed and was $850 from doug.
gonna have to send it in for software update.
anyone running the 8G CF card mentioned earlier? not a 4G version, the 8G?? love to hear from someone before tossing $$ that way...
i would also to love to hear of a portable solution for dl'ing the wav files onto a small portable HD device. seems to me i saw a thread somewhere about it. hoping someone has explored further - that way we can just dump the raw file to a 60 or 80G HD at nite and not have to have a laptop or computer access or a million cards to go on tour...
neil in san marcos
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Doug sells them for 830.00. I bought the stock machine and will send it back later in the year for the ACM mod.
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battery sled issues and marantz has been around forever. my PMD430 had some batteries "leak" so i sent the unit into the manufacturer of the batteries for a replacement - they used to do that years ago - and they sent it to marantz who told me that it was my fault because i left the batteries in the machine when using the wallwart. supposedly, the extra tab in the tray for charging the oem nicad was making contact with the alkalines and thus caused the batteries to leak and thus they would not warranty the unit. what a crock! eventually i got thru to someone with a brain and got a new unit. at least i didn't have the contact issues i am having now.
and somewhere in this thread there is mention that early on marantz had warrantied a couple of sleds. i remember talking to D&M about it when i first got my unit.
my unit came from the first oade shipment and is unmodd'ed and was $850 from doug.
gonna have to send it in for software update.
anyone running the 8G CF card mentioned earlier? not a 4G version, the 8G?? love to hear from someone before tossing $$ that way...
i would also to love to hear of a portable solution for dl'ing the wav files onto a small portable HD device. seems to me i saw a thread somewhere about it. hoping someone has explored further - that way we can just dump the raw file to a 60 or 80G HD at nite and not have to have a laptop or computer access or a million cards to go on tour...
neil in san marcos
Neil, I'm a bit confused.
I don't use the wallwart. Do you think it's a sled issue or is it the middle metal tab that is between the two DC contacts on the recorder side that is the problem? I figure that tab is a switch, as I hear it switching when it is depressed.
I've never owned a product that depleted batteries when the device is completely turned off. To me, this sounds like there is a problem ???
Anyway... For now, it's an inconvienience, not a deal breaker for me.
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I just got off the phone with Marantz again.
He gave me the same "we only support the NiMH pack we sell" speech again.
He suggested removing the sled when not using it...
That's what I'll be doing.
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+T Chuck, Marantz' response has to be the most ridiculous manufacturer's comment ever. I didn't know Marantz made batteries. ::)
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i would also to love to hear of a portable solution for dl'ing the wav files onto a small portable HD device. seems to me i saw a thread somewhere about it. hoping someone has explored further - that way we can just dump the raw file to a 60 or 80G HD at nite and not have to have a laptop or computer access or a million cards to go on tour...
neil in san marcos
Neil, check out the HyperDrive HD80 (http://hyperdrive.com/shop/index.php), a unit I first read about on the Digital Photography Review, Storage & Media forum (http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/forum.asp?forum=1023). When I move to 24 bit, the 671 will probably be my first choice, but being able to offload files at festivals is key for me. If someone could be the guinea pig on this OTG drive, I'd love to hear your results.
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+T Chuck, Marantz' response has to be the most ridiculous manufacturer's comment ever. I didn't know Marantz made batteries. ::)
Apparently they do... and they must think they are pretty good as they don't support any other manufacturers products...
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battery sled issues and marantz has been around forever. my PMD430 had some batteries "leak" so i sent the unit into the manufacturer of the batteries for a replacement - they used to do that years ago - and they sent it to marantz who told me that it was my fault because i left the batteries in the machine when using the wallwart. supposedly, the extra tab in the tray for charging the oem nicad was making contact with the alkalines and thus caused the batteries to leak and thus they would not warranty the unit. what a crock! eventually i got thru to someone with a brain and got a new unit. at least i didn't have the contact issues i am having now.
and somewhere in this thread there is mention that early on marantz had warrantied a couple of sleds. i remember talking to D&M about it when i first got my unit.
my unit came from the first oade shipment and is unmodd'ed and was $850 from doug.
gonna have to send it in for software update.
anyone running the 8G CF card mentioned earlier? not a 4G version, the 8G?? love to hear from someone before tossing $$ that way...
i would also to love to hear of a portable solution for dl'ing the wav files onto a small portable HD device. seems to me i saw a thread somewhere about it. hoping someone has explored further - that way we can just dump the raw file to a 60 or 80G HD at nite and not have to have a laptop or computer access or a million cards to go on tour...
neil in san marcos
;D
http://www.eastgear.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=17_66&products_id=443
or you can spend less and put the HD in yourself ;)
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battery sled issues and marantz has been around forever. my PMD430 had some batteries "leak" so i sent the unit into the manufacturer of the batteries for a replacement - they used to do that years ago - and they sent it to marantz who told me that it was my fault because i left the batteries in the machine when using the wallwart. supposedly, the extra tab in the tray for charging the oem nicad was making contact with the alkalines and thus caused the batteries to leak and thus they would not warranty the unit. what a crock! eventually i got thru to someone with a brain and got a new unit. at least i didn't have the contact issues i am having now.
and somewhere in this thread there is mention that early on marantz had warrantied a couple of sleds. i remember talking to D&M about it when i first got my unit.
my unit came from the first oade shipment and is unmodd'ed and was $850 from doug.
gonna have to send it in for software update.
anyone running the 8G CF card mentioned earlier? not a 4G version, the 8G?? love to hear from someone before tossing $$ that way...
i would also to love to hear of a portable solution for dl'ing the wav files onto a small portable HD device. seems to me i saw a thread somewhere about it. hoping someone has explored further - that way we can just dump the raw file to a 60 or 80G HD at nite and not have to have a laptop or computer access or a million cards to go on tour...
neil in san marcos
;D
http://www.eastgear.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=17_66&products_id=443
or you can spend less and put the HD in yourself ;)
Good find Bean +T
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battery sled issues and marantz has been around forever. my PMD430 had some batteries "leak" so i sent the unit into the manufacturer of the batteries for a replacement - they used to do that years ago - and they sent it to marantz who told me that it was my fault because i left the batteries in the machine when using the wallwart. supposedly, the extra tab in the tray for charging the oem nicad was making contact with the alkalines and thus caused the batteries to leak and thus they would not warranty the unit. what a crock! eventually i got thru to someone with a brain and got a new unit. at least i didn't have the contact issues i am having now.
and somewhere in this thread there is mention that early on marantz had warrantied a couple of sleds. i remember talking to D&M about it when i first got my unit.
my unit came from the first oade shipment and is unmodd'ed and was $850 from doug.
gonna have to send it in for software update.
anyone running the 8G CF card mentioned earlier? not a 4G version, the 8G?? love to hear from someone before tossing $$ that way...
i would also to love to hear of a portable solution for dl'ing the wav files onto a small portable HD device. seems to me i saw a thread somewhere about it. hoping someone has explored further - that way we can just dump the raw file to a 60 or 80G HD at nite and not have to have a laptop or computer access or a million cards to go on tour...
neil in san marcos
;D
http://www.eastgear.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=17_66&products_id=443
or you can spend less and put the HD in yourself ;)
Good find Bean +T
i would like to get one eventually and put an 80GB HD in there, then youre all set :) rechargeable AA"s are the best bet for powering it too
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http://www.eastgear.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=17_66&products_id=443
or you can spend less and put the HD in yourself ;)
The Eastgear unit costs $153.70 w/o HD, the HD80 costs $149.
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Now, somebody go get one of these things and lets see how it works! ;D
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I have my rechargeables, but don't have a charger yet. How long will some LIon AA's last in this thing? (digi in, 16/44) I may be able to get AC power tonight, but it's nice to have a backup plan.
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I have my rechargeables, but don't have a charger yet. How long will some LIon AA's last in this thing? (digi in, 16/44) I may be able to get AC power tonight, but it's nice to have a backup plan.
i tried store-bought AA's and they didnt work for some reason. run it at 24 bit. :)
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I have my rechargeables, but don't have a charger yet. How long will some LIon AA's last in this thing? (digi in, 16/44) I may be able to get AC power tonight, but it's nice to have a backup plan.
i tried store-bought AA's and they didnt work for some reason. run it at 24 bit. :)
Yeah, I'm lame. My playback system is a little bit behind. I wonder if I should record at 24/44.1 and then resample/dither and keep the originals for later use ?
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why not just record 24/96
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why not just record 24/96
The only reason for me not to go higher is storage room . My drive is pretty small. I guess it's time for some more upgrades.
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i go 24/48. you will thank yourself when your playback catches up to your rig.
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I ran the ACM a few nights ago and I liked what I heard :) But fyi, even with the ACM you still need to run the -20db pad. Doug suggested running with the pad on all the time. If I hadn't lost the USB cable, I would have uploaded a sample :)
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i run the stock 671 w/ the pad all the time.
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I run with the pad ON too and may start padding my 480's as well. I'm going to experiment.
Even with the 671 -20db pad ON I run <"5" on the gain control with isn't ideal. The 480's have an internal -10db pad. I'm going to see how that works, to get my gain up around 7-8.
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i have run 140's, 463's, TL's, and u89's w/ the brick into the 671. i run it about 10 - 12 o'clock. keep in mind this is taping extremely shitty bar pa's. i run the pad simply cause doug said so.
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i have run 140's, 463's, TL's, and u89's w/ the brick into the 671. i run it about 10 - 12 o'clock. keep in mind this is taping extremely shitty bar pa's. i run the pad simply cause doug said so.
dre, by saying 10 - 12 o'clock do you mean 4 - 5 on the numbered gain control? That's where I'm running it.
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yes. im not looking at it so i didnt know the actual numbers.
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OK, so I did my first show last night with the new 671. A couple small issues. First, I couldn't get the thing to come off of rec/pause. I thought that the manual said to hit the play button after rec/pause, to use the preroll buffer. I couldn't get it to work for me so I just used the red slider thing. Also, and this kind of sucked, the hold switch locks out the margin reset button. That needs to be fixed or it's pretty much worthless to me. Just what I need, unlock the deck and reach for the hold switch and accidently hit a different button. It's only a matter of time before this happens. Anybody have different expereriences? All things considered, the 671 worked very well and I am pleased with my purchase.
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i run mine in the porta brace upright in the bag, so i have not used the hold feature. to use the pre-roll buffer, press the record-pause button then slide the red record button to the right. how does it sound?
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OK, so I did my first show last night with the new 671. A couple small issues. First, I couldn't get the thing to come off of rec/pause. I thought that the manual said to hit the play button after rec/pause, to use the preroll buffer. I couldn't get it to work for me so I just used the red slider thing. Also, and this kind of sucked, the hold switch locks out the margin reset button. That needs to be fixed or it's pretty much worthless to me. Just what I need, unlock the deck and reach for the hold switch and accidently hit a different button. It's only a matter of time before this happens. Anybody have different expereriences? All things considered, the 671 worked very well and I am pleased with my purchase.
In the dark, I too have worried about hitting the stop button, which is dangerously close to the margin reset button.
I may put a piece of glow tape under the margin reset button so I can see it in the dark. Dre is right about the pre-roll, just use the red slider from rec/pause and you'll be fine. I may have to get some clear but dark colored plastic to put over the screen though. It's pretty damn bright when it's lit.
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Neil, I'm a bit confused.
I don't use the wallwart. Do you think it's a sled issue or is it the middle metal tab that is between the two DC contacts on the recorder side that is the problem? I figure that tab is a switch, as I hear it switching when it is depressed.
I've never owned a product that depleted batteries when the device is completely turned off. To me, this sounds like there is a problem Huh?
Anyway... For now, it's an inconvienience, not a deal breaker for me.
my comments about wallwarts and battery issues applies ONLY to the 430 cassette deck... sorry for any confusion. i do not see any issues like that with the 671. just other ones...
Do you think it's a sled issue or is it the middle metal tab that is between the two DC contacts on the recorder side that is the problem?
as to the 671, i believe it all relates to the NiMH batteries and the sled.
the middle metal tab is for recharging the NiMH Marantz battery pack, that is why a 15v charger is required
I've never owned a product that depleted batteries when the device is completely turned off.
i have not seen issues with batteries being "used" by a deck when the machine is off. now if one battery in the set of 8 is weak or not the same capacity, the others will try to charge it. i use the LaCrosse BC900 charger recommended by doug. i have noticed that almost none of my batteries are within 10% of their mA rating.... some are grossly off. i do not know if it is the brand or what. maybe i will try doug's recommendation for brand. in the meantime i have a 12v 8AH SLA as well as the LiION pack of the same capacity but weighng only 1.3lbs instead of 6lbs. either fits nicely in a side pouch and powers the DMX P01 and 671 combo for 5+ hrs. i am ok with using the externals because my bag (camera type) does not lend itself to battery changes esp for the 671.
neil in san marcos
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went looking at the Hyperdrive as well as the pd70X. looks like they are the same unit. under accessories for the Hyperdrive (HD80) i found this part: Replacement Control Slot Dust Cover (for HD80/PD70X) it is the sled/cardholder for insertion into the CF card. same for both devices. they both look the same... gonna order one this weekend. will advise
nism
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check this link out
http://www.imaging-resource.com/ACCS/BATTS/BATTS.HTM (http://www.imaging-resource.com/ACCS/BATTS/BATTS.HTM)
good info for AA NiMH batteries
nism
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went looking at the Hyperdrive as well as the pd70X. looks like they are the same unit. under accessories for the Hyperdrive (HD80) i found this part: Replacement Control Slot Dust Cover (for HD80/PD70X) it is the sled/cardholder for insertion into the CF card. same for both devices. they both look the same... gonna order one this weekend. will advise
nism
I noticed this as well, theyre just rebranded :)
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I have an update on the internal sled/NiMH AA issue.
I've had a re-occuring issue with the batteries in the sled discharging over time in the recorder.
Originally, I thought just putting the AA cells in the sled and putting the sled in the 671, that over time the recorder would discharge the batteries. Even if it was turned off. We'll, I put some Duracell 2500 mHa NiMH in the sled and left them for a week. No problems, they were fine after a week. Then I plugged in the external AA battery pack I made (with no batteries in it) and left the sled in and after 30 hours, the internal sled batteries were fully depleted! I checked the external pack for a short, and it is operating fine.
After seeing the results of this test, I would recommend not plugging in an external pack until you are ready to use it.
Looking back, I believe this is what has been my problem all along, having batteries in the sled and having an external battery pack pluged in at the same time. BTW, if there are batteries in the external sled, they get depleted as well.
When I have the time, I'm going to test the external jack to see what is going on with it...
To me, this is good news, as I was thinking that there was a problem with the 671, that it would deplete batteries, in the sled, without even being turned on!
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Just jumped on the 671 bandwagon after my D8 started having issues. Perfect excuse to go 24 bit :-) Hope to break it in Friday night.
I made up a power cable tonight (thanks to chuck for the info) in preparation for the first run. Next one will be a 90* connector, but this is what I had laying around...
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Just jumped on the 671 bandwagon after my D8 started having issues. Perfect excuse to go 24 bit :-) Hope to break it in Friday night.
I made up a power cable tonight in preparation for the first run. Next one will be a 90* connector, but this is what I had laying around...
Congrats... on the 671. Let us know how you like it.
+T for making your own power cable.
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Here is a less costly portable strorage device that you might like to consider! It is only 20GB but is inexpensive and should handle anything short of weekend festival as 20GB at 24/96 will give you just under ten hours of capacity. There are others out there if you look under camera accessories.
http://www.inoi.com/English/storagedevice.asp
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" (approximately 3GB of backup with fully charged battery)" hmm....
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Just jumped on the 671 bandwagon after my D8 started having issues. Perfect excuse to go 24 bit :-) Hope to break it in Friday night.
I made up a power cable tonight (thanks to chuck for the info) in preparation for the first run. Next one will be a 90* connector, but this is what I had laying around...
;D
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Here is a less costly portable strorage device that you might like to consider! It is only 20GB but is inexpensive and should handle anything short of weekend festival as 20GB at 24/96 will give you just under ten hours of capacity. There are others out there if you look under camera accessories.
http://www.inoi.com/English/storagedevice.asp
Got one...it works great.
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Here is a less costly portable strorage device that you might like to consider! It is only 20GB but is inexpensive and should handle anything short of weekend festival as 20GB at 24/96 will give you just under ten hours of capacity. There are others out there if you look under camera accessories.
http://www.inoi.com/English/storagedevice.asp
Got one...it works great.
doesnt list the cf>hd transfer sped, the quick ones are at 16MB/sec, anything slower may not transfer in time between sets, you'd be scramblin' between sets but YMMV, i have no first-hand experience, just research to determine that :)
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Here is a less costly portable strorage device that you might like to consider! It is only 20GB but is inexpensive and should handle anything short of weekend festival as 20GB at 24/96 will give you just under ten hours of capacity. There are others out there if you look under camera accessories.
http://www.inoi.com/English/storagedevice.asp
Got one...it works great.
doesnt list the cf>hd transfer sped, the quick ones are at 16MB/sec, anything slower may not transfer in time between sets, you'd be scramblin' between sets but YMMV, i have no first-hand experience, just research to determine that :)
I did a test not long ago. I will try to find the tread. I usually use it in the hotel after a show to get my card ready for day two. I also have a backup 1 GB card that I could use while downloading.
Found it...2.3 GB in 29 minutes
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=52070.32
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for those looking for a CF>HD portable device, look no further than the Hyperdrive HD80... http://www.hyperdrive.com
Their service is great and it's a speedy, quality device. I can do 4gb in about 10-12 min.
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for those looking for a CF>HD portable device, look no further than the Hyperdrive HD80... http://www.hyperdrive.com
Their service is great and it's a speedy, quality device. I can do 4gb in about 10-12 min.
I would agree, if I had to do it over again I would have purchased a faster device than my Inoi 20Gb. The Inoi is fine but not the fastest. I will use it until I really need something with a larger drive and faster download rates...like when I go to the 671 @ 24 bit.
Has anyone started posting their 671 recordings on bt.etree or other sites yet...I'm dying to hear Neumann>ACM PMD671.
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for those looking for a CF>HD portable device, look no further than the Hyperdrive HD80... http://www.hyperdrive.com
Their service is great and it's a speedy, quality device. I can do 4gb in about 10-12 min.
I would agree, if I had to do it over again I would have purchased a faster device than my Inoi 20Gb. The Inoi is fine but not the fastest. I will use it until I really need something with a larger drive and faster download rates...like when I go to the 671 @ 24 bit.
Has anyone started posting their 671 recordings on bt.etree or other sites yet...I'm dying to hear Neumann>ACM PMD671.
My C-481> ACM PMD671 Cracker recording here:
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=34232
I just recorded Zero March 11, 2006 C-481> ACM PMD671, 24 bit, I'm not completely happy with it, but I can B&P the raw unedited files if anybody wants it.
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for those looking for a CF>HD portable device, look no further than the Hyperdrive HD80... http://www.hyperdrive.com
Their service is great and it's a speedy, quality device. I can do 4gb in about 10-12 min.
eastgear makes the same thing, just looks rebranded
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for those looking for a CF>HD portable device, look no further than the Hyperdrive HD80... http://www.hyperdrive.com
Their service is great and it's a speedy, quality device. I can do 4gb in about 10-12 min.
I would agree, if I had to do it over again I would have purchased a faster device than my Inoi 20Gb. The Inoi is fine but not the fastest. I will use it until I really need something with a larger drive and faster download rates...like when I go to the 671 @ 24 bit.
Has anyone started posting their 671 recordings on bt.etree or other sites yet...I'm dying to hear Neumann>ACM PMD671.
honestly, all i have recorded are local bar bands on crappy pa's. but i can dig up a dvd-a for you if you like. 140>148>761
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I should get mine sometime this week. The wait is killing me.
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I should get mine sometime this week. The wait is killing me.
It's worth the wait ;)
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im looking forward to hearing your recordings, chuck and lee. :)
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I just bought a Maha 801 charger for 70.00. It's supposed to charge 8aa's in an hour. We'll see how it goes.
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Congrats... on the 671. Let us know how you like it.
+T for making your own power cable.
I ran mine Friday night for the first time. Worked GREAT, was super easy to use, level meters are really nice, and not having to wait for realtime playback when doing transfer to PC is AWESOME! I'm excited.
-Heikki
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Congrats... on the 671. Let us know how you like it.
+T for making your own power cable.
I ran mine Friday night for the first time. Worked GREAT, was super easy to use, level meters are really nice, and not having to wait for realtime playback when doing transfer to PC is AWESOME! I'm excited.
-Heikki
I've got a dinosaur PC with only USB 1.0. My transfer time for 4 GB (4 hours of 24 bit, 48 kHz) is right around an hour. Though not great, it sure beats transfering DATs in real time.
I use a card reader, rather than plugging into the 671 for transfers.
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Congrats... on the 671. Let us know how you like it.
+T for making your own power cable.
I ran mine Friday night for the first time. Worked GREAT, was super easy to use, level meters are really nice, and not having to wait for realtime playback when doing transfer to PC is AWESOME! I'm excited.
-Heikki
What did you tape Heikki ?
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I've got a dinosaur PC with only USB 1.0. My transfer time for 4 GB (4 hours of 24 bit, 48 kHz) is right around an hour. Though not great, it sure beats transfering DATs in real time.
I use a card reader, rather than plugging into the 671 for transfers.
chuck, my computer may be quicker than yours cause its newer, but i get WAY better times transferring w/ the usb cable vs. card reader.
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I've stayed away from transfering from the recorder directly after hearing someone had problems doing it that way.
It looks like I'm going to have to do some tests...
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What did you tape Heikki ?
Scarecrow Collection.
I missed these guys in Stillwater but since they were playing at Triumph in New Hope, the IPA there is decent, I was in Lambertville for dinner, and above all I was ITCHING to run the 671 I figured I would check them out. Not really my thing... I sent a copy to their manager this morning, he seemed quite keen on getting the show up on archive. Actually sounds decent since most uninterested chatters (including some people we know ;-) in that place are behind your rig sitting at the bar.
Are you doing Fri & Sat this weekend? OK, enough thread hijack.
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I've stayed away from transfering from the recorder directly after hearing someone had problems doing it that way.
It looks like I'm going to have to do some tests...
fwiw, i have had one problem. i changed the name of the folder "MPGLANG1" to another name before i transfered it, and it did not like that. so, i dont change the name until after it's been transferred. lesson learned. i , recently, transferred a 2.5gb file in about 10 minutes via usb1.1.
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I just bought a Maha 801 charger for 70.00. It's supposed to charge 8aa's in an hour. We'll see how it goes.
I have that as well. It kicks much ass. Do the soft charge though (2 hours). It helps the life of your batteries.
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just a quicky. i am running the sony dmx-p01 > stock 671 and i have found the combo that works for me. am still trying to clip the inputs.. it is so nice to have everything you need to adjust staring you in the face. one day i'll have to hook up with one of the v3 boys and run a comparison, but after rxr, cassette, beta-pcm, then dat, i think i am in love. did kim wilson in savoy brown v2 at the coach house and was very happy with my tape altho the sbd came out better due to FOH's attention to the mix he was sending. THANK YOU bro. i think i would be very interested in some sort of shoot out - maybe over the spring/summer some of us left coasters can get together at a show and play...
best to you all
nism
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What did you tape Heikki ?
Scarecrow Collection.
I missed these guys in Stillwater but since they were playing at Triumph in New Hope, the IPA there is decent, I was in Lambertville for dinner, and above all I was ITCHING to run the 671 I figured I would check them out. Not really my thing... I sent a copy to their manager this morning, he seemed quite keen on getting the show up on archive. Actually sounds decent since most uninterested chatters (including some people we know ;-) in that place are behind your rig sitting at the bar.
Are you doing Fri & Sat this weekend? OK, enough thread hijack.
Just doing Friday, buzz me if you are going ...
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I've stayed away from transfering from the recorder directly after hearing someone had problems doing it that way.
It looks like I'm going to have to do some tests...
Mine's been flawless so far. It seems to do 1.8 gb in about 14 minutes.
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my deck transfers 4G in under 4 minutes via USB 2.0. i have still to send mine in for the file software upograde.
nism
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Well, last night was the first time running my 671 off of aa's. I am using these:http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product=4035099
50 minutes in to the first set I saw the low power indicator blinking. I gave the deck a reach around and kind of squeezed the lid to the battery compartment. Voila! The battery meter is full again. As long as I held my mouth right, the meter stayed full all night. I had to squeeze the thing a couple more times to keep the problem for coming back. What are we doing about this? What kind of lion external can I use? I think I'd refer to go external if this is going to be flakey.
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maybe i am lucky, but i have NOT had a single issue w/ 2500mah powerex li-on's, except when i forgot to charge them.
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I gave the deck a reach around and kind of squeezed the lid to the battery compartment.
exactly what i did but i get the reverse effect - deck dies... discussed much earlier in this thread
nism
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my 671 was scheduled for a Tuesday (21st) arrival. It's sitting in my apartment office under lock and key. can't get it until Monday morning.
Grrrrr...
:)
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Powering question.....
So the 671 manual says that the power consumption is about 6w on average. So, does that mean it pulls .5a? (6 w/12 v = .5a)? Is this correct? Does that mean a 7 mah lead acid battery (powersonic) should run the thing about 14 hours via the external power input (but using DC)? What run times are people getting with 8 aa alkaline and 8 aa 2500 mah nimh batteries with the Oade ACM and phantom powering on? Any insight most appreciated, thanks!!
Damn... Wish I had one of these damn decks for Jerry :-[
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Well, last night was the first time running my 671 off of aa's. I am using these:http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product=4035099
50 minutes in to the first set I saw the low power indicator blinking. I gave the deck a reach around and kind of squeezed the lid to the battery compartment. Voila! The battery meter is full again. As long as I held my mouth right, the meter stayed full all night. I had to squeeze the thing a couple more times to keep the problem for coming back. What are we doing about this? What kind of lion external can I use? I think I'd refer to go external if this is going to be flakey.
...and when I squeezed it, it put a VERY audible thump on the tape.
I just bought one of these. We'll see how it goes.
http://www.hoyttech.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=306
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finally, the wait is over. This thing is a breeze to operate! I can't wait till tonight to tape.
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Alright...I gotta say after my first field run, I think this thing is pretty much idiot proof. With the presets, margin reset and easy to use scroll wheel for gain, it's hard to fuck up.
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i heart mine too. t for new toys.
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backatcha!
I recorded Grassy Knoll Boys tonight. Tracking everything right now. Should I seed the 16 or 24 bit first? I'm leaning towards the 16 and making the 24 available by request.
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backatcha!
I recorded Grassy Knoll Boys tonight. Tracking everything right now. Should I seed the 16 or 24 bit first? I'm leaning towards the 16 and making the 24 available by request.
Let me know...I want to hear the 671.
Did you do it with AKG>671 or with the ua5 in the middle?
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AKG 481 > Oade ACM Marantz PMD-671
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I haven't had a chance to really listen just yet. Just finished tracking the 24 bit. About to track the 16. Then i'll be able to burn both and comment more. At first listen though I like what I hear.
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I haven't had a chance to really listen just yet. Just finished tracking the 24 bit. About to track the 16. Then i'll be able to burn both and comment more. At first listen though I like what I hear.
Yeah, a pair of Sony MDRV900s, nice cold beer next to you and the lights down low. Sweet music to the ear.
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everything but the Sony's here...I really need to invest in some headphones.
:)
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24 Bit Grassy Knoll Boys Austin, TX
http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=23758
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as soon as the 24 bit is seeded, i'll throw up the 16 bit. so if you're grabbing the 24, please hang on for a bit.
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After the first cycle with the Powerex 2500, I got 4 hours 30 minutes of recording 24/96 with the backlight ON the entire time.
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OK,
VERY impressed with this thing with the ACM MOD! Now, I wonder about file sizes....
I will be recording at 24/48.
Do I need to make sure that no file/track is no longer than 2 gb for it to transfer to the computer OK? If so, do I:
1. Set the auto track 1/hr?
2. Make sure I start a new track before every 2 hours of recording?
What are you folks doing? I am on a Mac, and using Peak for audio software.
Thanks!!
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OK,
VERY impressed with this thing with the ACM MOD! Now, I wonder about file sizes....
I will be recording at 24/48.
Do I need to make sure that no file/track is no longer than 2 gb for it to transfer to the computer OK? If so, do I:
1. Set the auto track 1/hr?
2. Make sure I start a new track before every 2 hours of recording?
What are you folks doing? I am on a Mac, and using Peak for audio software.
Thanks!!
I remember Doug's saying to turn the track off for the 660 (not sure with 671). I record all the way through and then track on my desktop. If the band does a set 1 & 2 I turn the unit off and get two tracks that way.
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Thanks TFS,
OK, but what do you do if you have a long, single set? So even a 16/44.1 file would exceed 2 gb?
???
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set the 671 to auto-split the file before the 2gb limit and then rejoin w/ the software of your choice. so easy.
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set the 671 to auto-split the file before the 2gb limit and then rejoin w/ the software of your choice. so easy.
I record most everything at 24/48 and I actually prefer to record the sets/shows as one big wav file.... even if it exceeds 2 gb. Unless you plan on processing the wave file, you can open a file bigger than 2 gb in CD wave for tracking...... I then copy the files to my home computer and have the following work flow process to deal with the files.
1) Open 24 bit file in CD Wave and track out..... saving the cue sheet.
2) Save the individual 24 bit tracks in CD Wave
3) Open the original 24 bit file in Soundforge..... resample..... then dither to 16 bit..... then save the file
4) Open the 16 bit file in CD Wave using the original cue sheet (then you don't have to retrack the show)
5) Save the individual 16 bit tracks in CD Wave
This seems to work well and minimizes the amount of time spent and doesn't require retracking for 16 bit.
RD
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Thanks for the input folks.... +t to all!
The menus on the 671 only seem to go by time (1 hr., 2hrs., etc.) Is there a way to do it by file size?
Also, thanks for the workflow tips. But I use a Mac. Any Mac workflow tips for the same situation out there? ???
Thanks!!
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i think mine is set for 2 hrs.
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http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=23811
16 Bit Papa Mali with the Dirty Dozen Brass Band
I am totally impressed with the ACM.
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running the acm for the first time tonite. might run 463>m148>671 (stock) and 463>acm671 if i can get all the gear.
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running the acm for the first time tonite. might run 463>m148>671 (stock) and 463>acm671 if i can get all the gear.
That could be an interesting comp. Here's to hoping you get all the gear together +T
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backatcha, not sure its gonna happen. i only have 1 cf card. my second one is being delivered today hopefully. :-\
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backatcha, not sure its gonna happen. i only have 1 cf card. my second one is being delivered today hopefully. :-\
Maybe another time. Hopefully your new CF card shows up. New toys are fun!! :laugh:
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i have everything but the card, so it will happen soon.
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Are you running stock or mod 460's? I'm toying with the idea of moving to 24 bit, but not sure what box to get, yet. I need to listen to more sources.
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i have access to 3 pairs of stock 463's. ill run a comp for you if you want to switch mics for a bit. :)
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my Sandisk Ultra II 8GB came in today. the 671 doesn't like it. when I format the card, it "executes" 100%, then shows 9%. Only shows 2:04 in 24/96 mode. In other words half the card is useless.
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i have access to 3 pairs of stock 463's. ill run a comp for you if you want to switch mics for a bit. :)
I might take you up on that, dre. How did the recording go last night? Did you get your CF card in time?
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my Sandisk Ultra II 8GB came in today. the 671 doesn't like it. when I format the card, it "executes" 100%, then shows 9%. Only shows 2:04 in 24/96 mode. In other words half the card is useless.
can you try formatting using Windows format instead? i.e. attach the 671 via USB, go to Windows Explorer, right-click your removable drive (ie the CF card) and do a full format that way? not sure if this format is the same or different from the 671's internal format, and also not sure if they cf card will even show up in windows explorer if it hasn't been formatted yet so i might be talkin' out my arse! but just a thought...
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my Sandisk Ultra II 8GB came in today. the 671 doesn't like it. when I format the card, it "executes" 100%, then shows 9%. Only shows 2:04 in 24/96 mode. In other words half the card is useless.
can you try formatting using Windows format instead? i.e. attach the 671 via USB, go to Windows Explorer, right-click your removable drive (ie the CF card) and do a full format that way? not sure if this format is the same or different from the 671's internal format, and also not sure if they cf card will even show up in windows explorer if it hasn't been formatted yet so i might be talkin' out my arse! but just a thought...
That's bad, if the 671 won't reconnize the 8 GB card.
Sandisk is a recommended brand isn't it?
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my Sandisk Ultra II 8GB came in today. the 671 doesn't like it. when I format the card, it "executes" 100%, then shows 9%. Only shows 2:04 in 24/96 mode. In other words half the card is useless.
can you try formatting using Windows format instead? i.e. attach the 671 via USB, go to Windows Explorer, right-click your removable drive (ie the CF card) and do a full format that way? not sure if this format is the same or different from the 671's internal format, and also not sure if they cf card will even show up in windows explorer if it hasn't been formatted yet so i might be talkin' out my arse! but just a thought...
I just tried it this way...no go. When I right click and the dialog box pops up it says that the capacity on the disc is 7.65 GB, but after format the 671 still reads 4 GB.
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that sucks, i have the same card and i has the tascam hd-p2 and it works. maybe the 671 will update the firmware
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Hmmmm.....
It has been recommended by Marantz to ONLY use Kingston, PNY, or Lexar CF cards. I have heard of issues with Sandisk CF cards in the past. It may be a brand to avoid, especially in higher capacities (> 1 gb). Also, the folks at Oade said that up to 8 gb cards should format quite reliably in the 671, assuming you use a recommended brand. I would like to hear from folks that have an 8 gb Lexar card and the 671.
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From the Marantz site:
PMD671 Operational Questions
What kind of media is recommended?
Depending on your application, you'll want to select a proper compact flash type I or type II, or microdrive memory card to use with your PMD671 solid state recorder. Typically standard cards with faster read/write speeds are best. You'll want to stay away from cards marked as "ultra" or anything else other than standard. If your application is one where the machine is constantly moving or subject to vibration, then you should buy a compact flash card as opposed to a microdrive.
Some recommended brands of flash cards are: Lexar, Viking, Hitachi, IBM, and PNY.
FWIW, I bought the 4 GB Kingston Elite on Doug Oade's recommendation. When I e-mailed Marantz about the Kingston, they told me it was probably OK to use, but still not on their recommended list. I have had no problems with it so far.
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my Sandisk Ultra II 8GB came in today. the 671 doesn't like it. when I format the card, it "executes" 100%, then shows 9%. Only shows 2:04 in 24/96 mode. In other words half the card is useless.
can you try formatting using Windows format instead? i.e. attach the 671 via USB, go to Windows Explorer, right-click your removable drive (ie the CF card) and do a full format that way? not sure if this format is the same or different from the 671's internal format, and also not sure if they cf card will even show up in windows explorer if it hasn't been formatted yet so i might be talkin' out my arse! but just a thought...
I just tried it this way...no go. When I right click and the dialog box pops up it says that the capacity on the disc is 7.65 GB, but after format the 671 still reads 4 GB.
He Lee are you going to need it for tonight I can bring the lappy out and we can dump the CFs
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The first card I bought was a 4 GB Sandisk Ultra II. It works flawlessly.
Mike--i'll be fine with what I have. I can get 3:56 at 24/48 which is fine with me. The 8 GB card holds 4 GB as well. It works fine, I just can't utilize the entire card.
I'm gonna send it back Monday and get another 4 GB card and try another 8GB (Kingston maybe?)
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sandisk is one of the better card companies, and that 8 gig card should work in that unit. maybe the marantz can't handle more than a 4 gig card, if that was the case, forget doing 24/96 on a show that is longer than 2 hours.
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The first card I bought was a 4 GB Sandisk Ultra II. It works flawlessly.
Mike--i'll be fine with what I have. I can get 3:56 at 24/48 which is fine with me. The 8 GB card holds 4 GB as well. It works fine, I just can't utilize the entire card.
I'm gonna send it back Monday and get another 4 GB card and try another 8GB (Kingston maybe?)
Let us know what you find out.
I'm wanting to get an 8 GB card for my 671 too.
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my Sandisk Ultra II 8GB came in today. the 671 doesn't like it. when I format the card, it "executes" 100%, then shows 9%. Only shows 2:04 in 24/96 mode. In other words half the card is useless.
can you try formatting using Windows format instead? i.e. attach the 671 via USB, go to Windows Explorer, right-click your removable drive (ie the CF card) and do a full format that way? not sure if this format is the same or different from the 671's internal format, and also not sure if they cf card will even show up in windows explorer if it hasn't been formatted yet so i might be talkin' out my arse! but just a thought...
I just tried it this way...no go. When I right click and the dialog box pops up it says that the capacity on the disc is 7.65 GB, but after format the 671 still reads 4 GB.
Lee, what operating/file system is your pc running? If it's fat16 or fat24 fat32 that may be why it's reading 4gb after the format as there is a 4gb volume limit with these two file systems. NTFS on the other hand doesn't have the 4gb limitation. I dunno, just a stab...
edit: fat24 should be fat32 (duh)
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Windows XP. It's Fat 32.
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http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=23857
Source: AKG 481 (DINa) > Oade ACM Marantz PMD-671
Sam Bush
2006-03-25
The Glenn @ The Backyard
Bee Cave, TX
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http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=23857
Source: AKG 481 (DINa) > Oade ACM Marantz PMD-671
Sam Bush
2006-03-25
The Glenn @ The Backyard
Bee Cave, TX
+T Loading up my ACM671 recordings ;D
Sorry about them Horns...Knocked me out of one pool, already won one and still alive with UCLA in another ::)
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http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=23857
Source: AKG 481 (DINa) > Oade ACM Marantz PMD-671
Sam Bush
2006-03-25
The Glenn @ The Backyard
Bee Cave, TX
Sweet Jesus that sounds good...worth the download and Sam Bush is coming to the brewery so I got a good one to attend. Thanks +T
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thanks for the compliment. here are the openers (South Austin Jug Band and Onion Creek Crawdaddies):
http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=23878
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any word on 8G card compatability???????
nism
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i've had brickwalling issues the last 2 times out. I "think" it's from the right angle connectors, but not sure. I think there is too much pressure on the connection. I haven't been able to reproduce the problems at home. the sound has been ok, but the waveform is flat, almost like there was a limiter on it.
i'll be using the regular XLR's tomorrow and i'll report back.
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fwiw, i have run staight xlr's or km100's plugged staight in w/ no problems as of yet.
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http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=23857
Source: AKG 481 (DINa) > Oade ACM Marantz PMD-671
Sam Bush
2006-03-25
The Glenn @ The Backyard
Bee Cave, TX
+T this sounds so nice :coolguy: I'm really wanting one of these 671's. Once I get an offer on my house, I'm ordering!
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http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=23857
Source: AKG 481 (DINa) > Oade ACM Marantz PMD-671
Sam Bush
2006-03-25
The Glenn @ The Backyard
Bee Cave, TX
+T this sounds so nice :coolguy: I'm really wanting one of these 671's. Once I get an offer on my house, I'm ordering!
House for a ACM 671...good call!
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no brickwalling tonight. used the straight neutriks.
the right angles are pretty wide, and touch each other when plugged in to the 671 putting pressure on the box. any suggestion on RA's that aren't as wide as the Neutriks (NC3MRC)?
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someone made some very low profile ra xlr's for thier 722. there are some pictures somewhere on this site.
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I love this thread - great info regarding the 671 and the mod'ed 671s
Does this thing fit in a sonicase? I think its decievingly long (10.4")
Thanks for all the info guys.
-T
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i use a porta brace. model # hr pmd 650.
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i use a porta brace. model # hr pmd 650.
if you could post some pics, that would be great. especially the side where the mic cables go in.
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i use a porta brace. model # hr pmd 650.
if you could post some pics, that would be great. especially the side where the mic cables go in.
All the ones I find don't have an actual picture of the setup, Can't tell if it comes w/ the small pouch or accepts the RM-Multi or RM-deluxe. Might give Frank @ cascade a ring to see if he can provide more details.
Lee: you could proably get the 1060/cables/windscreens/clamp in the RM-delux, the one I have on my bag is the RM-Multi.
PB part #: AR-PMD650
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i use a porta brace. model # hr pmd 650.
if you could post some pics, that would be great. especially the side where the mic cables go in.
i need to borrow a digi cam first. :-[
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i use a porta brace. model # hr pmd 650.
if you could post some pics, that would be great. especially the side where the mic cables go in.
i need to borrow a digi cam first. :-[
Is a small pouch permenantly attached or is there one that velcro's on w/ 4 straps
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attached. it will hold an m148.
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I have the Marantz bag... its not bad, not that great either, but it will do a good job protecting the 671. If you had the right kind of case for your mics, they might fit in the pocket too. Right now I've got the 671, External Battery (wall mart kind)/Cable and a Digi Cable in mine. There's plenty of room for another battery too. Its much cheaper then the portabrace one too.
Rick
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yes. porta brace is expensive, but worth every dime. :)
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attached. it will hold an m148.
on the other side of the bag is there 2 square plastic hooks and 2 velcro straps
something like this:
Hook Strap
Hook Strap
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yes. porta brace is expensive, but worth every dime. :)
Definetly! I had one for my 722 and it was great. But I just wanted something I could use that would protect it from beer and still be able to see the levels :) Plus I like using a normal backpack. I feel geeky carring a portabrace/marantz type bag :P So no need to spend that much.
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it has 2 hooks on either side of the front of the deck where the shoulder strap would go. it has 2 red straps on the bottom on l/r. on the bottom is the velcro door to get to the battery compartment. it also has a "loop" of some sort where a fanny style strap would go. and. of course, the sides are slit for access w/ velcro. it has the plastic clear cover for the front and you can access the top buttons no problem.
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This is how I have the right angle Neutriks angled on my PMD671. I've had no problems.
Also, my complete rig in a Walmart fishing tackle bag.
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This is how I have the right angle Neutriks angled on my PMD671. I've had no problems.
Also, my complete rig in a Walmart fishing tackle bag.
+T for the nice carpet.
Fish on....nice bag too
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Anyone have thoughts on me selling my v3 & picking up the marantz 671?
I'm sure some of you did this. If so Do you regret it?
I have the 148 to run in front of it.
Thanks
Jeff
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do it. seriously. get a stock one and run 148>671.
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It would be really nice to record 24bit without the lappy.
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do it. seriously. get a stock one and run 148>671. line-in is no longer "hot" after the oade mod.
What exactly do you mean by this? I was under the impression that the Line-in was not affected by the mods.
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do it. seriously. get a stock one and run 148>671. line-in is no longer "hot" after the oade mod.
What exactly do you mean by this? I was under the impression that the Line-in was not affected by the mods.
wait. you are correct, sir. i had the "input lock" button on when i tried switching from mic-in to line-in. it was dark and i was in in a bar. however, in my living room w/ lights it is clear that line-in does, indeed, work. i was wrong. sorry for the misinformation. now i can get my comparison on...
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Not a ACM 671 but its little sister with km140s
Dylan Stockton April 3, 2006
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=62560.0
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That's it, I'm calling Oade tomorrow! 671, here I come! :drool:
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you won't regret it.
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That's it, I'm calling Oade tomorrow! 671, here I come! :drool:
Awesome John +T! Can't wait to see that thing and hear how it works out for you.
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ok kids....I've been thinking about this unit (and the 722).
has anyone had any experience with the LEXAR 80x 8GB cf card?
I found one for about 400.00
Tommy
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Thanks to those who have PM'ed me.
Think I'm going to run the v3 till easter. Then put it up FS & pick up the 671.
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ok kids....I've been thinking about this unit (and the 722).
has anyone had any experience with the LEXAR 80x 8GB cf card?
I found one for about 400.00
Tommy
tommy, fwiw, i have had ZERO problems w/ a 45x kingston 4GB. the rest (sandisk, lexar, etc.) seem to be hit and miss. you can get 2 4gig for less than 1 8gb. i dont think (could be wrong) anyone has found an 8gb that works flawlessly. do you really need 8gb?
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ok kids....I've been thinking about this unit (and the 722).
has anyone had any experience with the LEXAR 80x 8GB cf card?
I found one for about 400.00
Tommy
I haven't used it, but it's cheaper at mwave. http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=3540425
and if it doesn't work the refund 100%
EDIT: it's only 40X, not 80
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ok, I just called Doug, the 671 is on its way. Going with the stock unit, as I'm only running Line-in for the time being.
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ok, I just called Doug, the 671 is on its way. Going with the stock unit, as I'm only running Line-in for the time being.
I'm getting back into a 671, I just ordered a stock unit from Doug as well. I have a few shows I wanted another recorder for and can use the line in for now, if I had a couple more weeks until the shows I'd get the ACM, I'll just have to send it back for the mods.
You'll like this unit, I've been missing the one I sold ever since. My only other 24 bit solution is about 50lbs heavier when you include the battery. :P
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DAMMIT!!! the shit brickwalled again tonight.
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DAMMIT!!! the shit brickwalled again tonight.
Are you running the 20 db mic att? I had the BCM before and couldn't brickwall it if I tried.
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DAMMIT!!! the shit brickwalled again tonight.
have you tried using the -20db mic attenuator switch? i'd highly recommend trying it for at least a set...
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heh, beat me to the punch Genghis, nice :)
this happened the first few times out with my ACM660 (i.e. without attenuation). Doug couldn't stress enough to me that i should be running the attenuator at rock shows, or anything with mildly amplified volume. i realize some mics are more sensitive than others, and at first i was surprised, maybe even disappointed, that i had to run the attenuator, but i've come to accept the fact that this is the way my box operates. ever since i've engaged the attenuator i've had zero problems with brickwalling. it has given me some headroom to work with and now i don't have to worry as much about overloads. i also picked up a pair of Audio Technica AT8202 attenuators with selectable -10, -20 and -30db attenuation when i want to run, say, -10db attenuation (and no atten on the 660) for mid-level volume shows.
okay, i haven't had enough coffee yet and i'm rambling. YMMV!
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DAMMIT!!! the shit brickwalled again tonight.
How were you setup?
Like this:
AKG 480 (ck61/ck63) > Oade ACM Marantz PMD-671
Or:
AKG 480 (ck61/ck63) > Oade WarmMod UA5 > Oade ACM Marantz PMD-671 If running it this way are you running analog out of the UA5 or digital?
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DAMMIT!!! the shit brickwalled again tonight.
Lee:
Where are your levels set? I've been worried about this myself, since everything I've recorded with the ACM 671 my levels are in the 4-5 range with the on board attenuator on. No brickwalling for me yet, though. I talked to Doug about making that attenuator -35db rather than -20db. He didn't seem interested in doing that.
Chuck
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good morning everyone. I haven't been running the -20 pad. I'll try it tonight. The couple of shows that I didn't have any problems were bluegrass stuff. For some reason I thought I didn't run it for the Papa Mali and DDBB show.
I've been around 4-5 on the gain control knob. I haven't run the UA5 in front yet. I haven't felt the need.
So I guess it wasn't the right angles. That's a good thing.
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lee - run the pad.
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DAMMIT!!! the shit brickwalled again tonight.
Lee:
Where are your levels set? I've been worried about this myself, since everything I've recorded with the ACM 671 my levels are in the 4-5 range with the on board attenuator on. No brickwalling for me yet, though. I talked to Doug about making that attenuator -35db rather than -20db. He didn't seem interested in doing that.
Chuck
I'm curious now, I'd like to know what's different before I send mine back for the Advanced mod. My memory could be off, but I'm pretty sure my levels were never under 7-8 using the -20 switch with either the dpa's or schoeps.
I was thinking that AKG mics have less output than a 4022, if that's the case I might want to look into the specifics ofthe ACM a little more.
:hmmm:
Advanced MOD
The Advanced MOD keeps the line input and limiter/ALC circuit intact but removes the built in mic and filters to reduce the mic preamp hiss thru the XLR mic input. It also uses very fast, very low distortion chips for the mic preamps as well as ultra high quality capacitors to block phantom power voltage. The result is a level of speed, detail and transparency that far exceeds that of the stock machine. The gain range on the mic preamp is -60dB to -20dB, a range of -50dB to -10dB available upon request.
Basic Concert MOD
The Basic Concert MOD is designed to optimize recording quality on the 671 for music recording. This MOD differs from the Basic MOD in that it allows for a much higher input level via the microphone XLR inputs that allows the recordist to use a very high output condenser microphone without fear of input overload or clipping while further reducing the noise floor by another 6dB.
Advanced Concert MOD
The Advanced MOD keeps the line input intact but removes the built in mic, dual level mono, limiter/ALC circuit and filters to reduce the mic preamp hiss thru the XLR mic input. It also uses very fast, very low distortion chips for the mic preamps as well as ultra high quality capacitors to block phantom power voltage. The result is a level of speed, detail and transparency that far exceeds that of the stock machine. The gain range on the mic preamps is -36 dB to +4 dB, a range of -50dB to -10dB with the ALC/limiter intact is available upon request.
I wish I knew the gain range for the BCM671 for a point of reference, I'll have to call Doug on this one.
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I notice my AM/PM indicator flashes all the time. I set the Time/Date, but it flashes AM/PM in all the the other display modes ???
did you ever figure this out? mine does it too!
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on a somewhat related (unrelated?) note...I saw a post from Doug the other day about a "new rev" of Marantz mods...does anyone know anything about this or what he's talking about? This is news to me ???
Doug Thu Apr-06-06 11:43 AM
Member since Sep 23rd 2003
#3816, "RE: Recording Technology for beginners"
In response to Reply # 0
I hope to have sample files on our site within one month for the new Rev of Basic and Adv 660 upgrades plus those for the 671 even if I have to time off to do it ...Doug
http://www.oade.com/Tapers_Section/Forum/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=100&topic_id=3804&mode=full&page=
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on a somewhat related (unrelated?) note...I saw a post from Doug the other day about a "new rev" of Marantz mods...does anyone know anything about this or what he's talking about? This is news to me ???
Doug Thu Apr-06-06 11:43 AM
Member since Sep 23rd 2003
#3816, "RE: Recording Technology for beginners"
In response to Reply # 0
I hope to have sample files on our site within one month for the new Rev of Basic and Adv 660 upgrades plus those for the 671 even if I have to time off to do it ...Doug
http://www.oade.com/Tapers_Section/Forum/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=100&topic_id=3804&mode=full&page=
here is the 671 page of upgrades
Super MOD
Availability and price TBA. This will offer the greatest speed, detail and transparency along with the lowest noise possible in the analog signal path . This upgrade will be optimized for high gain applications. Useful for nature recordings, FX, voice or any time low noise and very low audible distortion along with high gain is needed. It will remove not only the built in mics and dual level mono settings but the L+R mono and ALC/Limiter as well. It will offer a gain range of -60 to 0 dB, a range of -50dB to +10 dB available upon request.
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in the next few days, i will host a semi-scientific comarison w/ km140s>m148>acm671@24/44.1 (one set w/ the brick, one w/o). i was dfc, ~15 ft from the stage, din, stand at ~5ft. its a local jazz act, the vamps, w/ originals and several recognizable covers. best local band 'round these parts. 3 horns, bass, guitar, drums, and percussion. stay tuned...
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on a somewhat related (unrelated?) note...I saw a post from Doug the other day about a "new rev" of Marantz mods...does anyone know anything about this or what he's talking about? This is news to me ???
Doug Thu Apr-06-06 11:43 AM
Member since Sep 23rd 2003
#3816, "RE: Recording Technology for beginners"
In response to Reply # 0
I hope to have sample files on our site within one month for the new Rev of Basic and Adv 660 upgrades plus those for the 671 even if I have to time off to do it ...Doug
http://www.oade.com/Tapers_Section/Forum/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=100&topic_id=3804&mode=full&page=
here is the 671 page of upgrades
Super MOD
Availability and price TBA. This will offer the greatest speed, detail and transparency along with the lowest noise possible in the analog signal path . This upgrade will be optimized for high gain applications. Useful for nature recordings, FX, voice or any time low noise and very low audible distortion along with high gain is needed. It will remove not only the built in mics and dual level mono settings but the L+R mono and ALC/Limiter as well. It will offer a gain range of -60 to 0 dB, a range of -50dB to +10 dB available upon request.
Thanks Bean. I guess it was the "new Rev of Basic and Adv upgrades" reference for the PMD660 (which I own) that I was curious about. That is, what is different between the ACM mod I already have and this "new rev"...
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I notice my AM/PM indicator flashes all the time. I set the Time/Date, but it flashes AM/PM in all the the other display modes ???
did you ever figure this out? mine does it too!
This was an issue related to not formating the card, if I remember right. It works fine now.
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weird, cause I format the card every time out.
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weird, cause I format the card every time out.
...and the AM/PM still blinks?
It's weird, because I called the tech support to talk to them about it and it wasn't blinking when I fired it up to diagnose it on the phone with them! Check it after you have recorded something on the card. I think it was a newly formatted card that didn't have any data on it that made it blink.
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Quick question that I'm pretty sure has already been answered, but anyway, the Oade mods don't effect the line in, correct? In other words, if I'm running a Sonosax in front, the Oade mod would have zero benefit, right?
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That's correct. I asked Doug the same question this past week when I ordered mine.
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weird, cause I format the card every time out.
...and the AM/PM still blinks?
It's weird, because I called the tech support to talk to them about it and it wasn't blinking when I fired it up to diagnose it on the phone with them! Check it after you have recorded something on the card. I think it was a newly formatted card that didn't have any data on it that made it blink.
That's the answer. Call tech support and it will stop blinking...usually the case. :banging head:
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no brickwall last night!!!!
EDIT: There is some weird buzzing in the left channel though. Probably improper shielding in the cable. Anybody know of a feature in Soundforge 7.0 to get it out?
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EDIT: There is some weird buzzing in the left channel though. Probably improper shielding in the cable. Anybody know of a feature in Soundforge 7.0 to get it out?
No, but you can can use something like Bias' SoundSoap to get that out. It does wonders on things like buzzing and other misc. types of noise.
Wayne
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no brickwall last night!!!!
EDIT: There is some weird buzzing in the left channel though. Probably improper shielding in the cable. Anybody know of a feature in Soundforge 7.0 to get it out?
So, did you run it using the 20db pad?
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Sure did. Sounds great other than the buzzing in the left channel. I was using Mikes 50 footers last night. probably a break in the shielding somewhere.
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I notice my AM/PM indicator flashes all the time. I set the Time/Date, but it flashes AM/PM in all the the other display modes ???
did you ever figure this out? mine does it too!
This was an issue related to not formating the card, if I remember right. It works fine now.
Mine was flashing too. I just went in and set the correct date/time and it no longer flashes.
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anybody else try an 8G card yet???
nism
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Anyone running Line-In (rca's) ? I don't see a way to control the gain. Am I missing something here. ??? Looks like the REC LEVEL control wheel on the front is only for the XLR's.
edit: need to set the REC LEVEL switch on top to MANUAL, rather than ALC or LIMITER.
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its for both line/mic in. ive done both.
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OK, so I had something strange happen the other night. I recorded two sets of The Work in Clemson. Everything went fine. I go home and get the 671 hooked up by usb and go to transfer the files. The first set transfers with no problem but I got an error message in regard to the second set. It said the file was corrupt or unreadable. I listened to the second set and it played fine on the 671. I fixed it by recording it real time on to my dap1, then back to the 671, and then on to my pc successfully. However, the encore is cut. It's as if I lost power, but I didn't. My new energizer 2500's ran for about 3 hours with no trouble. Shouldn't the thing save the file before it shuts down? Maybe I lost my input signal somehow. ANy thoughts on that, or anyone else seen this? Thanks-Kevin
Looks like esteyes already reported this problem. Maybe I did lose power, but I'd swear the lights were still on at the end of the show.
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Maybe it couldn't save the file header before it shut down. That would account for the problem with the computer recognizing it.
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the one time i ran out of power, i am pretty sure it shutdown gracefully w/ file intact.
the one time i got a corrupt file its because i changed the name of the file from "MPGLANG" to the band name before the transfer.
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no, but I plan on running:
AKG 483 > ACM 671
AKG 483 > V3 > 671
at ATX Fest at the end of the month if Pat is still able to loan me his gear.
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OK, so I had something strange happen the other night. I recorded two sets of The Work in Clemson. Everything went fine. I go home and get the 671 hooked up by usb and go to transfer the files. The first set transfers with no problem but I got an error message in regard to the second set. It said the file was corrupt or unreadable. I listened to the second set and it played fine on the 671. I fixed it by recording it real time on to my dap1, then back to the 671, and then on to my pc successfully. However, the encore is cut. It's as if I lost power, but I didn't. My new energizer 2500's ran for about 3 hours with no trouble. Shouldn't the thing save the file before it shuts down? Maybe I lost my input signal somehow. ANy thoughts on that, or anyone else seen this? Thanks-Kevin
Looks like esteyes already reported this problem. Maybe I did lose power, but I'd swear the lights were still on at the end of the show.
My 671 has been flaky with transfers. It seems the only reliable way for me to transfer is via an external card reader. I lost a whole Aquarium Rescue Unit show with that same corrupt error, only mine would not play to do the real time transfer. I imagine trying a different card may help but mine is not reliable doing usb transfers.
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no problem transferring yet via USB.
[knocks on wood]
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I use a card reader for transfers and have had no problems.
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no problem transferring yet via USB.
[knocks on wood]
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If you want to hear what an AKG C-481> ACM PMD671 combo sounds like with a good mix in a good sounding venue, try this:
http://www.cotapers.org/BT/Cracker2006-04-27.torrent
Recorded at 44.1 Khz, 16 bit, so no dither or re-sampling and no processing other that a fade in at the beginning and end and track splits.
I'm quite happy with how it came out ;D
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Oh, I had another internal battery sled problem Thursday night, during the opener. I would switch the power on and it would start up, but immediately shut down. >:( I got it worked out before the Cracker Duo by just using an external battery pack and removing the internal sled. I went out to Radio Shack today and got their (8) AA cell long sled. It was ~$2. It has longer posts on it. It fits perfectly, I just removed the black keying device on the stock sled and put it on the RS sled. We'll see how this one works. I've always thought the contact points on the stock sled may be the problem. This should prove it one way or the other.
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yea, i'm kind of surprised there has been no V3 comp yet. for that matter, nobody stammering overthemselves to rave about how wonderful the box sounds....
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yea, i'm kind of surprised there has been no V3 comp yet. for that matter, nobody stammering overthemselves to rave about how wonderful the box sounds....
well said Nick, i was wondering the same thing myself. i do know i've been digging on some of leehookem's recent 481/483 > acm pmd671 recordings...very nice. the Topaz show below is doing it for me now. i'll have to d/l Chuck's show now as well. +
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=35359
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what's the "best" bit/sample rate to do a comp at? what does everyone wants to hear, 16/44, 16/48, 24/44 or 24/48 ?
24-bit, either sample rate: 44.1 or 48.
all I need is a pair of splitters to go out of my jk box right? (two female xlr > four male xlr). anyone have a pair they can let me borrow?
That's all I've ever used. I'll send you mine if it'll help get the comp done. PM on the way shortly...
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or make some by just "jumping" off of the male XLR ends w/a new set of wire that comes out to a seperate pair of XLRs.
I"ll build some "comp cables" to spread around to folks who can use them.
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raoulduke wrote:
oh yea, is anyone running apple/hitachi microdrives in their 671? I have two 6 gig ones that I'd like to use for 24/48 recordings if possible. I asked before but noone chimed in.
we (the list) did talk about microdrives in one of the previous versions of "671 in the field". i tried a 4G and had no problems at home on the table, but when i went to a show the thing went to crap... short battery life and consequent loss of a recording as well as other issues...ymmv
neil in san marcos
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can this thing do a live matrix (like the ua-5, which can run both line-in and mic-in simultaneously)..?
i think i will be joining the team soon :D
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i dont believe so.
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can this thing do a live matrix (like the ua-5, which can run both line-in and mic-in simultaneously)..?
i think i will be joining the team soon :D
Nope.
Only one input at a time.
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what they said.
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yea, i'm kind of surprised there has been no V3 comp yet. for that matter, nobody stammering overthemselves to rave about how wonderful the box sounds....
well said Nick, i was wondering the same thing myself. i do know i've been digging on some of leehookem's recent 481/483 > acm pmd671 recordings...very nice. the Topaz show below is doing it for me now. i'll have to d/l Chuck's show now as well. +
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=35359
wow, that does sound nice :)
is it easy to overload this thing going line/mic in? what i mean is: is it as forgiving as the v3 when hitting 0db and overloading?
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heavily in limbo w/ the hdp2 vs. 671 decision, but fater hearing a few ACM 671 tapes w/ the 480's, i may be sold ;D
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it handles overs, as well, if not better than the v3. trust me, i've tried. >:D
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it handles overs, as well, if not better than the v3. trust me, i've tried. >:D
sweet ;D
just need a splitter off the xlr's and run a 16-bit backup w/ the modsbm1>jb3 setup ;D
i could outright sell the v3 and buy the acm 671+CF card
damn, why did i have to hear that topaz recording lee did, it sounds on par w/ the v3 to me ;D great match w/ the 480's
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why run 16 bit backup? just curious.
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why run 16 bit backup? just curious.
good point, didnt think taht one thru, i LOVE the soujnhd of the 480>v3>modsbm1, and without the v3, the modsbm1 wouldnt get used, however, keeping the modsbm1 around couldnt be a bad thing, i could always run 480>stewart phantom supplies>modsbm1>jb3/ACM if i felt like it as well, and for the few shows that do get stealthed in p-burgh, the modsbm1 would always be there
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why run 16 bit backup? just curious.
good point, didnt think taht one thru, i LOVE the soujnhd of the 480>v3>modsbm1, and without the v3, the modsbm1 wouldnt get used, however, keeping the modsbm1 around couldnt be a bad thing, i could always run 480>stewart phantom supplies>modsbm1>jb3/ACM if i felt like it as well, and for the few shows that do get stealthed in p-burgh, the modsbm1 would always be there
Or... snag an extra set of 460 or 480 bodies and run multiple rigs. You got the caps brAh.
I've had my 2nd rig smoke what I thought would work best a few times...
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why run 16 bit backup? just curious.
good point, didnt think taht one thru, i LOVE the soujnhd of the 480>v3>modsbm1, and without the v3, the modsbm1 wouldnt get used, however, keeping the modsbm1 around couldnt be a bad thing, i could always run 480>stewart phantom supplies>modsbm1>jb3/ACM if i felt like it as well, and for the few shows that do get stealthed in p-burgh, the modsbm1 would always be there
Or... snag an extra set of 460 or 480 bodies and run multiple rigs. You got the caps brAh.
I've had my 2nd rig smoke what I thought would work best a few times...
good point, but after taping for quite a few years now, i wanna lighten the load a bit, not make it more complicated setting up 2 rigs :)
i will prolly keep the v3>modsbm1 around for ahile and buy the acm 671 at some point, and until i put them both thru the test, i will see which i like best running splitters, i know the test is most likely gonna be at diff bit/sample rates, but i am not worried about that, just wanna check out some diff sounds
this topaz leehookem did really is great, its still streaming and blowing my mind, 480>ACM 671 sounds like a great match :)
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oh and is the 1300 list price doug has for the ACM 671 strict? or can it be had cheaper?
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yea, i'm kind of surprised there has been no V3 comp yet. for that matter, nobody stammering overthemselves to rave about how wonderful the box sounds....
well said Nick, i was wondering the same thing myself. i do know i've been digging on some of leehookem's recent 481/483 > acm pmd671 recordings...very nice. the Topaz show below is doing it for me now. i'll have to d/l Chuck's show now as well. +
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=35359
Sick,
might buy one with the next bonus check...no, no pay off those credit cards...no 671!
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oh and is the 1300 list price doug has for the ACM 671 strict? or can it be had cheaper?
unless you get one used. sell the v3 and the shitmapper. get a 671 for free. :D
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that topaz recording is super crispy.
Fucking Doug. He can crap into a shoebox and I'd plug my mics into it.
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that topaz recording is super crispy.
Fucking Doug. He can crap into a shoebox and I'd plug my mics into it.
Very colorful, Nicholas, well said. Your best review EVA! :P
;D
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just placed the order for mine. should be here next tuesday ;D
Tommy
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just placed the order for mine. should be here next tuesday ;D
Tommy
Congrats. Doug must be all caught up if it's shipping that soon.
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just placed the order for mine. should be here next tuesday ;D
Tommy
Congrats. Doug must be all caught up if it's shipping that soon.
he originally said 2 weeks, but with me being in Memphis shipping is a little quicker through fed ex
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congrats tommy! you will love it, once i show how to work it. :P
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One thing I like about this is the power up prerecord feature. The 671 will buffer everything that your deck monitors while in rec/pause mode. Slide the red switch and the display will read continue, hit the play button and everything that your deck heard while on pause is now on the cf card. Or,you can hit record again to discard the buffered stuff and continue from there. Pretty neat feature if you ask me. I'm getting good run times (around 3 hours) with energizer 2500 mah batteries.
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This Topaz recording makes me want to trade the km184's in for a pair of 481's and then sell the R1/Mp2 combo and grab an ACM 671. That would mean an extra $600 out of my pocket though... hmm, i dunno.
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yea, thats a very nice AKG recording. reminds me of the 148>500e sound when that is behind the the 480s
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ALWAYS RUN THE PAD, WHETHER LINE/MIC IN. sorry for the caps, but this has been discussed over and over again. also, this applies to both stock/mod 671. :)
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fwiw...
when ran 248>stock671, I NEVER ran the pad. and never had a problem and taped plenty of loud shows.
regarding the meetering, they are the tits.
not only are the segments there or not to show you db, but they are dark or light and soooo damn quick. very, very accurate meeters, imo. and I have not used anything as cool since the V3 or 660 (those are very V3 type lights).
its also very forgiving when you go over 0db. I've pegged mine HARD a few times, can't even hear it.
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shit, that's going to sound supersweet w/your MGs
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like you, i just do what doug says. w/ that said, i have only run 148>671. so it was fixed. i imagine you probably ran the 248 kinda low?
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around 12 to 2 o'clock depending...and that was still too hot mostly.
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fwiw, i have run mg210's/463's>148>671 at the same show and i thought the 463's sounded waaay better. *ducks*
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I had to run my ACM671 on "10" last week for an acoustic opening band. FOB 481 (DIN)> ACM PMD671. I had the pad engaged as usual. I'm thinking about making a couple of mic attentators, since most of the time I'm running it with the pad engaged the level control is between 4 and 6.
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so, why run the pad again?
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The gain range on the mic preamps is -36dB to +4dB, a range of -50dB to -10dB with the ALC/limiter intact is available upon request.
link (http://www.oade.com/digital_recorders/hard_disc_recorders/PMD-671MODS.html)
so everybody is getting the latter of the two acm flavors..?
and the consensus is that even with the limiter, the unit runs on the hot side..?
has anybody enquired about the supermod..?
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so, why run the pad again?
With 481's If I didn't run the pad, I'd be running the gain at ~ 2 - 4, which is the lower end of the control. I would rather use the top end of the gain control in the 7-9 range. That way my signal doesn't have to go through all that nasty resistance before being recorded.
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use a pad so that you can use less of the gain attenuation...
sounds like its an "eh" choice either way, but i guess the pad would be the best route
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use a pad so that you can use less of the gain attenuation...
sounds like its an "eh" choice either way, but i guess the pad would be the best route
so....would it be better to run the pad on the mics or the unit or both?
I don't think this is a dumb question.
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use a pad so that you can use less of the gain attenuation...
sounds like its an "eh" choice either way, but i guess the pad would be the best route
so....would it be better to run the pad on the mics or the unit or both?
I don't think this is a dumb question.
No it is not. Just say you got the record level on about a "4 - 5" with just the 20 db pad on the deck, and you could run the knob on about "7 - 8" with the pad on and -10 db on the mic pads as well. Doug would say that it is better to run it with both pads, and the higher record level setting, but doubts the difference would be audible. I personally prefer to run my mics wide open, and put the hottest signal possible to the deck, then let it (the 671) attenuate. Therefore, I personally run the knob about 4 - 5 (11 to 12 o'clock), instead of putting turning the pad on my mics. I would say try both at a loud recording, and see if YOU hear a difference.
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i agree. use the pads on the mics last, if needed.
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any of you smart people want to tell me what kind of power connector I would need to run this off a wally 9V battery?
Tommy
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i cant help on that one, sorry.
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i cant help on that one, sorry.
because I said "smart" :P
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:flipa:
fwiw, the rechargeable powerex AA's have worked flawlessly for me.
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any of you smart people want to tell me what kind of power connector I would need to run this off a wally 9V battery?
Tommy
I think it's the same as the mini-me and ua-5. I'm assuming it's tip+/ring- unlike the ass-backwards ua-5 tip-/ring+.
I'm trying to find the part number myself...
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radio shack "B" size barrel plug
:)
fwiw, I always ran mine w/the deck set around 4-6. I didnt' care for the sound the one time I used Dougs advise and ditched the gain on the 248 in place of less attenuation on the Marantz.
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radio shack "B" size barrel plug
:)
fwiw, I always ran mine w/the deck set around 4-6. I didnt' care for the sound the one time I used Dougs advise and ditched the gain on the 248 in place of less attenuation on the Marantz.
now that's a smart man.....you could learn a lot from him Drew.
+T Nick!!
Tommy
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nice.
the talk of hybrid sound between warm and T is exactly what I thought w/the ACM660 sound as well. Transparent as in lack of coloration, warm as in the way those Wmod boxes have such an 3d sound stage.
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+t, good report. and i agree with Nick, this is the type of sound i hear on the ACM660. I look forward to the torrent.
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awesome tim, may have to sell the ole v3 and buy one new ;D
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you guys will no longer need your v3's. seriously.
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Curious to hear this sucker. How's the self noise at high gain? Some of the unamplified recording I do needs a very quiet noise floor at high gain, hence one of the reasons I love my V3.
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Really helpful report - keep the info coming. +T
I'm leaning towards the Marantz now after leaning towards the DA-P2 for a while. ???
Do you think the gain structure gets shifted by the ACM mod? ie, are you able to run it hotter with the ACM mod but some of the un-moded electronics are still percieving some 'peaks', which really aren't peaks?
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Really helpful report - keep the info coming. +T
I'm leaning towards the Marantz now after leaning towards the DA-P2 for a while. ???
Do you think the gain structure gets shifted by the ACM mod? ie, are you able to run it hotter with the ACM mod but some of the un-moded electronics are still percieving some 'peaks', which really aren't peaks?
no doubt, i was set on the hd-p2, but after hearing 481>acm 671, my mind has changed
wonder if doug will mod the hd-p2's as well, i thought someone said he was looking into it
if he did an ACM mod on the p2, i would also have to hear that one ;D
what a yummy box :)
it would be nice to just have a bag w/ mics/cables/and the 671 and thats it :)
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That's me Bean. Mics, cables and ACM 671. I really like the simplicity and it sounds very good. :)
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That's me Bean. Mics, cables and ACM 671. I really like the simplicity and it sounds very good. :)
got any tapes on the archive? id love a link to some, ive already heard your cracker, sounds great, just looking for some recordings w/ bands im more into ala moe/biscuits/etc
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when tax time comes, I'm DEFINITELY getting one of these bad boys, seems too damn user friendly to pass up, even w/ the 12v batts
I plan on getting a handful of 12v NIMH batts to use seperatly from the vr box(jb3/16-bit backup w/ the v3>analog out>jb3 ;D )
then again i may just get a bunch of those small 12v NIMH batt packs and wire them in parallel so i can power the v3/jb3 off of one 12v system ;D
and the ACM mod may get done as well, just to have some diff pre/ad options ;D
the rest of my tax return is going to fines :P
Didn't you get your tax return yet? ::)
Please define DEFINITELY, then buy me another cold one. :suds:
Confucius Say:
He who thinks by the inch and talks by the yard deserves to be kicked by the foot. :hmmm:
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when tax time comes, I'm DEFINITELY getting one of these bad boys, seems too damn user friendly to pass up, even w/ the 12v batts
I plan on getting a handful of 12v NIMH batts to use seperatly from the vr box(jb3/16-bit backup w/ the v3>analog out>jb3 ;D )
then again i may just get a bunch of those small 12v NIMH batt packs and wire them in parallel so i can power the v3/jb3 off of one 12v system ;D
and the ACM mod may get done as well, just to have some diff pre/ad options ;D
the rest of my tax return is going to fines :P
Didn't you get your tax return yet? ::)
Please define DEFINITELY, then buy me another cold one. :suds:
Confucius Say:
He who thinks by the inch and talks by the yard deserves to be kicked by the foot. :hmmm:
sorry my tax return wasnt as big as id hoped :P
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That's me Bean. Mics, cables and ACM 671. I really like the simplicity and it sounds very good. :)
oooOOOOoo, a cotaper with my dream rig - please show me wher I can hear a Fox or B. Theater show and hear what yer rig can do?
+T
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http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=36173
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=34232
These are the only ones I have with this rig on the archive right now. They both happen to be Cracker. One is the acoustic duo, the other is the full band.
I've also recorded one of the ARU shows at the Fox, Boulder and one of the Zero Reunion shows at Cervantes. I also have a partial Camper Van Beethoven from the Gothic (same night as the Cracker full band recording) I can send FLAC or audio CD's of these if you are interested.
The best of the bunch is the 04-27-2006 Cracker Acoustic Duo that's on the archive.
The vocals sound a bit hollow, as I was a bit too close and missed the coverage of the L/R stacks but it gives you a good idea how the C-481> ACM PMD671 combo sounds.
I'm using Segue Dogstars for all my cabling. In this case, thats the 15' silver clad microphone cables. http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=49744.0
There are actually quite a few guys running C-48x> ACM 671. Check out the PMD671 in the field thread.
Chuck
PS. I'll probably record Tea Leaf Green May 19th at the Fox. Being that I turn 46 at midnight that night, I'm not 100% sure what I'll be doing right now though. ;)
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That's me Bean. Mics, cables and ACM 671. I really like the simplicity and it sounds very good. :)
got any tapes on the archive? id love a link to some, ive already heard your cracker, sounds great, just looking for some recordings w/ bands im more into ala moe/biscuits/etc
Check this one out:
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=35838
Band/Artist: Topaz
Date: April 14th, 2006
Venue: The Velvet Spade (outdoors)
Location: Austin, TX
Source: AKG 481 (DINa) > Oade ACM Marantz PMD-671
Lineage: PMD-671 > Soundforge 7.0 (fades, resample, dither) > CDWave (tracking) > flac level 6
Taped by: Lee Hart
Transferred by: Lee Hart
Uploaded by: leehookem21
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Curious to hear this sucker. How's the self noise at high gain? Some of the unamplified recording I do needs a very quiet noise floor at high gain, hence one of the reasons I love my V3.
It's not here yet, you probably already kone of it but: Super MOD
Availability and price TBA. This will offer the greatest speed, detail and transparency along with the lowest noise possible in the analog signal path . This upgrade will be optimized for high gain applications. Useful for nature recordings, FX, voice or any time low noise and very low audible distortion along with high gain is needed. It will remove not only the built in mics and dual level mono settings but the L+R mono and ALC/Limiter as well. It will offer a gain range of -60dB to -30 dB, a range of -50dB to -20dB available upon request.
I'm sending my stock unit back soon to get the ACM mod (hopefully this week), if it's not being used when it gets back I could send it your way to give it a try.
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It's not here yet, you probably already kone of it but: Super MOD <snip>
Ah, I did not know about the Super MOD - thanks. That sounds like what I would need, but I'm not sure it would satisfy both my loud amplified and quiet unamplified recording scenarios, though, with only a 30 dB gain range.
I'm sending my stock unit back soon to get the ACM mod (hopefully this week), if it's not being used when it gets back I could send it your way to give it a try.
I appreciate the offer. No need to send me your ACM, though, as I'm a ways off from making any changes. At the moment, I'd still like to give 4-ch a try, though I find I'm not using 4-ch as much as I'd hoped. If I go back to strictly 2-ch, then the Super MOD 671 is something I'd consider in place of the V3/MT.
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i have been thinking about the supermod, too... i think that it would work nicely with acoustic/symphony/etc. but i am not sure how well it would do with watt and banyan...
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Curious to hear this sucker. How's the self noise at high gain? Some of the unamplified recording I do needs a very quiet noise floor at high gain, hence one of the reasons I love my V3.
i've recorded w/ the gain wide open and there is no audible self-noise.
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That's me Bean. Mics, cables and ACM 671. I really like the simplicity and it sounds very good. :)
got any tapes on the archive? id love a link to some, ive already heard your cracker, sounds great, just looking for some recordings w/ bands im more into ala moe/biscuits/etc
Check this one out:
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=35838
Band/Artist: Topaz
Date: April 14th, 2006
Venue: The Velvet Spade (outdoors)
Location: Austin, TX
Source: AKG 481 (DINa) > Oade ACM Marantz PMD-671
Lineage: PMD-671 > Soundforge 7.0 (fades, resample, dither) > CDWave (tracking) > flac level 6
Taped by: Lee Hart
Transferred by: Lee Hart
Uploaded by: leehookem21
i stream this constantly, that sounds FANTASTIC and is the one recording that is making me buy the ACM 671
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Curious to hear this sucker. How's the self noise at high gain? Some of the unamplified recording I do needs a very quiet noise floor at high gain, hence one of the reasons I love my V3.
i've recorded w/ the gain wide open and there is no audible self-noise.
I recorded an opening acoustic duo with the 671 -20db pad engaged at the "10" setting on the gain control and it sounded fine. The control on the 671 is an attenuator, so it's best to run it as wide open as possible IMO.
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Check this one out:
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=35838
Band/Artist: Topaz
Date: April 14th, 2006
Venue: The Velvet Spade (outdoors)
Location: Austin, TX
Source: AKG 481 (DINa) > Oade ACM Marantz PMD-671
Location: Onstage, DFC
Lineage: PMD-671 > Soundforge 7.0 (fades, resample, dither) > CDWave (tracking) > flac level 6
Taped by: Lee Hart
Transferred by: Lee Hart
Uploaded by: leehookem21
Yes, a fine on-stage recording. As mentioned earlier, though, I think I am partial to this one for the ability to judge the PMD-671's soundstage from afar:
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=35359
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Yes, a fine on-stage recording. As mentioned earlier, though, I think I am partial to this one for the ability to judge the PMD-671's soundstage from afar:
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=35359
Actually that's the one I meant to post, I didn't realize Lee had 2 up there. :P
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Yes, a fine on-stage recording. As mentioned earlier, though, I think I am partial to this one for the ability to judge the PMD-671's soundstage from afar:
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=35359
Actually that's the one I meant to post, I didn't realize Lee had 2 up there. :P
yeah, this is where we got the classic quote from Nick earlier in this thread:
"that topaz recording is super crispy. Fucking Doug. He can crap into a shoebox and I'd plug my mics into it."
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=59611.285
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Yes, a fine on-stage recording. As mentioned earlier, though, I think I am partial to this one for the ability to judge the PMD-671's soundstage from afar:
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=35359
Actually that's the one I meant to post, I didn't realize Lee had 2 up there. :P
yeah, this is where we got the classic quote from Nick earlier in this thread:
"that topaz recording is super crispy. Fucking Doug. He can crap into a shoebox and I'd plug my mics into it."
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=59611.285
Ok, so now it looks like I need to get this recording. I'm still lovin' Nick's RatDog with the ACM 660.
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Is this the one you were refering to Nick?
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=35359
481> ACM PMD 671
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It's not here yet, you probably already kone of it but: Super MOD <snip>
Ah, I did not know about the Super MOD - thanks. That sounds like what I would need, but I'm not sure it would satisfy both my loud amplified and quiet unamplified recording scenarios, though, with only a 30 dB gain range.
I'm sending my stock unit back soon to get the ACM mod (hopefully this week), if it's not being used when it gets back I could send it your way to give it a try.
I appreciate the offer. No need to send me your ACM, though, as I'm a ways off from making any changes. At the moment, I'd still like to give 4-ch a try, though I find I'm not using 4-ch as much as I'd hoped. If I go back to strictly 2-ch, then the Super MOD 671 is something I'd consider in place of the V3/MT.
Brian, I just spoke with Doug today in reguards to the Super Mod (you wouldn't want it), the mod is geared more towards sources that need an exceptional amount of gain, the example he gave is recording birds @ up to 200ft away etc. He mentioned recording some friends with the 414xls mics > ACM671 just the other day, a fairly tame acoustic recording (aprox 6' away) and the ACM yielded some very nice results. The ACM mod is more what we/you would want to use and I did bring up recording chamber music as a possible scenario. It sounded like the gain structures of the Super Mod wouldn't even work with what we're using our machines for.
I hope I get my unit back in time, I might head up to your neck of the woods:
The Black Angels Tue 6/13/06 - Empty Bottle, Chicago, IL
Claypool Wed. 6/14/06 - Vic Theatre, Chicago, IL Vic Theatre
The Black Keys 6/17/06 - Taste of Randolph St. Festival Chicago, IL
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thanks for the info..
+t
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Is this the one you were refering to Nick?
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=35359
481> ACM PMD 671
that's it Chuck...as posted on page 18 of this thread a few weeks back:
yea, i'm kind of surprised there has been no V3 comp yet. for that matter, nobody stammering overthemselves to rave about how wonderful the box sounds....
well said Nick, i was wondering the same thing myself. i do know i've been digging on some of leehookem's recent 481/483 > acm pmd671 recordings...very nice. the Topaz show below is doing it for me now. i'll have to d/l Chuck's show now as well. +
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=35359
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It's not here yet, you probably already kone of it but: Super MOD <snip>
Ah, I did not know about the Super MOD - thanks. That sounds like what I would need, but I'm not sure it would satisfy both my loud amplified and quiet unamplified recording scenarios, though, with only a 30 dB gain range.
I'm sending my stock unit back soon to get the ACM mod (hopefully this week), if it's not being used when it gets back I could send it your way to give it a try.
I appreciate the offer. No need to send me your ACM, though, as I'm a ways off from making any changes. At the moment, I'd still like to give 4-ch a try, though I find I'm not using 4-ch as much as I'd hoped. If I go back to strictly 2-ch, then the Super MOD 671 is something I'd consider in place of the V3/MT.
Brian, I just spoke with Doug today in reguards to the Super Mod (you wouldn't want it), the mod is geared more towards sources that need an exceptional amount of gain, the example he gave is recording birds @ up to 200ft away etc. He mentioned recording some friends with the 414xls mics > ACM671 just the other day, a fairly tame acoustic recording (aprox 6' away) and the ACM yielded some very nice results. The ACM mod is more what we/you would want to use and I did bring up recording chamber music as a possible scenario. It sounded like the gain structures of the Super Mod wouldn't even work with what we're using our machines for.
I hope I get my unit back in time, I might head up to your neck of the woods:
The Black Angels Tue 6/13/06 - Empty Bottle, Chicago, IL
Claypool Wed. 6/14/06 - Vic Theatre, Chicago, IL Vic Theatre
The Black Keys 6/17/06 - Taste of Randolph St. Festival Chicago, IL
I'm glad you talked to Doug and clearified that. I suspected that the Super Mod wasn't suited to recording music.
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I'm downloading the Topaz show now. Jeez, I hope it's not >:D devil >:D music ???
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Definately NOT devil music :)
A very nice AKG ACM 671 recording.
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the devil rocks/420 bitches...
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all of it's a joke...
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the devil rocks/420 bitches...
I +Ted you 420 :smoking: & :cheers:
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blablablablabla........420bitchesblablablablaidontknowwhatimtalikinboutblablabla
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blablablablabla........420bitchesblablablablaidontknowwhatimtalikinboutblablabla
Now you're 421 :P
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blablablablabla........420bitchesblablablablaidontknowwhatimtalikinboutblablabla
WTF???
damn was I drunk last night.
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Two -Ts to get you both at or close to the sacred 420.
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Two -Ts to get you both at or close to the sacred 420.
Sacred to whom? No smoke here, I'm a liquid man. :suds:
What's that contraption in your avatar? :cheers:
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Two -Ts to get you both at or close to the sacred 420.
Sacred to whom? No smoke here, I'm a liquid man. :suds:
What's that contraption in your avatar? :cheers:
Kettle #1 @ Sierra Nevada Brewing Co. 200 barrels US (6200 gallons). Stainless Steal with a Copper Jacket.
Sacred to freaks!
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Two -Ts to get you both at or close to the sacred 420.
Sacred to whom? No smoke here, I'm a liquid man. :suds:
What's that contraption in your avatar? :cheers:
Kettle #1 @ Sierra Nevada Brewing Co. 200 barrels US (6200 gallons). Stainless Steal with a Copper Jacket.
Sacred to freaks!
I am a beer lover, but I'm not a fan of the Sierra Nevada beers I have tasted.
I am currently very fond of the New Belgium Brewing Co's (Ft. Collins, CO) 1554.
It's a black beer (not to be confused with stout) that is sweet/rich and very tasty. My local Chili's has it on tap and I drink it when I order the chicken wings. Just the thought of it makes me happy :cheers:
Turn me on to a Sierra Nevada, that I can drink more than two of. ;) I think it's the overly hoppy pale ale style I don't care for.
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Turn me on to a Sierra Nevada, that I can drink more than two of. ;) I think it's the overly hoppy pale ale style I don't care for.
give this one a try
http://www.sierranevada.com/beers/summerfest.html
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Thank you, I was going to suggest this or ask if your local pub could get some of our special beers on tap (usually only on tap in Chico) which would be Pilsner, Schwarzbeir, Vienna, or ScotchAle. You really have to look for a pub that carries Sierra regularly or a pub that cares about their big customers. Schwarz (dark lager) would be close to the 1554 maybe not as heavy.
Turn me on to a Sierra Nevada, that I can drink more than two of. ;) I think it's the overly hoppy pale ale style I don't care for.
give this one a try
http://www.sierranevada.com/beers/summerfest.html
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Two -Ts to get you both at or close to the sacred 420.
Sacred to whom? No smoke here, I'm a liquid man. :suds:
What's that contraption in your avatar? :cheers:
Kettle #1 @ Sierra Nevada Brewing Co. 200 barrels US (6200 gallons). Stainless Steal with a Copper Jacket.
Sacred to freaks!
I am a beer lover, but I'm not a fan of the Sierra Nevada beers I have tasted.
I am currently very fond of the New Belgium Brewing Co's (Ft. Collins, CO) 1554.
It's a black beer (not to be confused with stout) that is sweet/rich and very tasty. My local Chili's has it on tap and I drink it when I order the chicken wings. Just the thought of it makes me happy :cheers:
Turn me on to a Sierra Nevada, that I can drink more than two of. ;) I think it's the overly hoppy pale ale style I don't care for.
New Belgium is DA BOMB, drank tons of it when i stayed in Ft Collins for 4 or so days before trey 2001 at red rocks ;D still have coasters of New Belgium ;D
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Two -Ts to get you both at or close to the sacred 420.
Sacred to whom? No smoke here, I'm a liquid man. :suds:
What's that contraption in your avatar? :cheers:
Kettle #1 @ Sierra Nevada Brewing Co. 200 barrels US (6200 gallons). Stainless Steal with a Copper Jacket.
Sacred to freaks!
I am a beer lover, but I'm not a fan of the Sierra Nevada beers I have tasted.
I am currently very fond of the New Belgium Brewing Co's (Ft. Collins, CO) 1554.
It's a black beer (not to be confused with stout) that is sweet/rich and very tasty. My local Chili's has it on tap and I drink it when I order the chicken wings. Just the thought of it makes me happy :cheers:
Turn me on to a Sierra Nevada, that I can drink more than two of. ;) I think it's the overly hoppy pale ale style I don't care for.
New Belgium is DA BOMB, drank tons of it when i stayed in Ft Collins for 4 or so days before trey 2001 at red rocks ;D still have coasters of New Belgium ;D
Indeed, I prefer their Abbey Double style. Drank tons of it when I was living out west.
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Well, lets lock this one up and move on...
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=64570.new#new