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Re: Tascam DR2d - part 2
« Reply #60 on: June 18, 2012, 02:04:10 PM »
According to Tascam's site, the PS 520 does power the Dr 2d, so this unit should be ok. The specks for this deck per: http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=150794.0 are: Tascam DR-2D / 5v/ Size B, 4.00mm OD × 1.70mm ID / Center pin (+)  Ring (-) / Normal Polarity
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Re: Tascam DR2d - part 2
« Reply #62 on: August 01, 2012, 08:49:44 AM »
Hi all

Ok now I've made 2 recordings with dr2d . My first one was not good but only due to microphone orientation . But the second one has an horrible saturation that I don't really understand . Maybe I should have not used the LMT option ... can someone tell me what it could come from, what should I change for next time ? because it's saturated but  with a low volume level .... i'm very newbie , thanx in advance !!

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Re: Tascam DR2d - part 2
« Reply #63 on: August 01, 2012, 10:25:30 AM »
Hi all

Ok now I've made 2 recordings with dr2d . My first one was not good but only due to microphone orientation . But the second one has an horrible saturation that I don't really understand . Maybe I should have not used the LMT option ... can someone tell me what it could come from, what should I change for next time ? because it's saturated but  with a low volume level .... i'm very newbie , thanx in advance !!

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Re: Tascam DR2d - part 2
« Reply #64 on: August 02, 2012, 03:01:59 PM »
external sp-cmc-4u with bbox on mic in, gain MID , input something like 40 .... LMT function, I think it's why I've thought that i did not reach the peak levels, this LMT function stopped the level bars but nothing else ??

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Re: Tascam DR2d - part 2
« Reply #65 on: August 02, 2012, 03:17:04 PM »
If you haven’t done so, I highly recommend reading through the Dr-2d threads...
As you seem to realize, using the LMT function isn’t a good idea.
And as stated in previous posts, unless what you are recording is very soft, the input level should be set to LOW, and 67 seems to be the agreed upon setting.
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Re: Tascam DR2d - part 2
« Reply #66 on: August 02, 2012, 03:40:53 PM »
Turn off LMT.

Set gain to Low.

Do not use mic-input settings of less than ~65.  If you need to turn the input level down more than that to prevent the clip peak light from turning on, the recording will be distorted.  Any settings higher than 65 will work OK.  Settings lower will distort.

If you find that you must set the mic-input level lower than 65 to prevent the clip peak light from turning on, switch to the line-input jack and use a line-input setting of ~93 to 100.  Try to keep it at 95 or above.  Lower input settings will distort.
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Re: Tascam DR2d - part 2
« Reply #67 on: August 02, 2012, 03:43:36 PM »
ok .. I read a few but english is not my 1st langauge so it's hard  to read and understand all ! I had read something about 67 but didn't notices the LOW thing .... and was it good to plug on mic in, maybe lin ein would have been more secured ? I wanted to make a dual recording with a lower " secured" recording lol that's why I plug on mic in ... but both are very saturated .
thanx for your answers ! I will set on LOW on Coldplay .

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Re: Tascam DR2d - part 2
« Reply #68 on: August 02, 2012, 06:14:49 PM »
The only way to use the dual recording feature is with the recorder set to mic-input in the record menu. 

If you find you need to set the mic-input lower than 65, then use the line-input jack set at 95 and forget about the dual recording feature.
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Re: Tascam DR2d - part 2
« Reply #69 on: August 22, 2012, 01:45:56 PM »
here's a 24-bit 4-track recording I did with the Dr-2d :

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Re: Tascam DR2d - part 2
« Reply #70 on: August 31, 2012, 06:43:20 AM »
thanx for all advices and "keys" numbers :)  !!
reading the manual, it said the LMT function was to be sure to have a sound not distorded so I used it :(

Anyway has this function to be put on "off" or on " auto gain control" ??
Is it worth to use the low cut filter ? what does this bring exactly ? as for my bbox , I don't really understand the roll-off control lol ....

An other thing : do you think it could be a good idea to use a double jack stereo, I mean 1 input female and 2 output male, to plug my microphone in the female, and to plug the 2 male in line in and mic in, and then to make a dual recording ? so that I could input 95 for line in as a secure recording, and try to record with mic in playing with the input level ? Because I don't want to have to miss 1 of the song to find the best rendering !
Is it a good idea to duplicate the output of my microphone like this ?

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Re: Tascam DR2d - part 2
« Reply #71 on: August 31, 2012, 09:30:11 AM »
reading the manual, it said the LMT function was to be sure to have a sound not distorded so I used it :(

Anyway has this function to be put on "off" or on " auto gain control" ??

Turn LMT (limiter) off.

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Is it worth to use the low cut filter ? what does this bring exactly ? as for my bbox , I don't really understand the roll-off control lol ....

Low cut and roll-off are the same thing.  They reduce or 'turn-down' the bass frequencies.  Most prefer to not use the low cut and if the recording has too much bass we adjust that afterwards on the computer where we have more control.  If you do want to use this for very loud or very bassy music that otherwise distorts the recorder's inputs, it's probably better to use the roll-off on the battery box instead of the low cut on the recorder.

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An other thing : do you think it could be a good idea to use a double jack stereo, I mean 1 input female and 2 output male, to plug my microphone in the female, and to plug the 2 male in line in and mic in, and then to make a dual recording ? so that I could input 95 for line in as a secure recording, and try to record with mic in playing with the input level ? Because I don't want to have to miss 1 of the song to find the best rendering !

What your are suggesting is possible, but that's exaclty what the DUAL LEVEL feature (as opposed to the DUAL LINE setting ) does without the need for the 'Y' cable. 

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Is it a good idea to duplicate the output of my microphone like this ?

Maybe, but probably not a good idea.. it changes the loading on the mic and depends on the microphone.  It would be more likely to work without a potential problem after an external preamp, but as mentioned above,  that's the primary intended function of the DUAL feature so there is no good reason to do so that I can see.
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Re: Tascam DR2d - part 2
« Reply #72 on: August 31, 2012, 04:06:27 PM »
I see what you mean but the DUAL mode only gives a -12 dB recording . But when I totally f*** up my recording, the -12dB had exactly the same s problem, -12dB was far to be enough to save anything . But a line in recording is really more secured than a mic in - 12 dB ... I think !!

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Re: Tascam DR2d - part 2
« Reply #73 on: August 31, 2012, 05:09:55 PM »
Yes, the line-input will accept a somewhat hotter singnal than mic-in, but neither can accommodate particularly hot inputs, and as mentioned you may or may not have mic loading problems if mult'ing (splitting) the mic signal to both inputs, but I'm not certain of that.  A better approach would be attenuating the hot signal before it reaches the recorder, maybe by inserting an attenuator between the batterybox and the recorder input.
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Re: Tascam DR2d - part 2
« Reply #74 on: September 05, 2012, 09:20:39 AM »
Here it is, I recorded Coldplay in Stade de France, Paris . I used those settings :  SP-CM-4U + battery box SP-SPSB-8 ( no roll-off ) > Tascam DR-2D (line in 95 dB)  wave 96 Khz / 24 bit .

Thanx for the 95 dB advice, there seem to be no saturation, at least no peak level during most of the show, at least when I checked . Anyway, the result is a few disappointing because there's a kind of saturation that I don't really understand :   http://soundcloud.com/julien-kurtzemann/coldplay-sdf-hurtslikeheaven
please let me know your opinion, I've heard it's maybe a question of my bbox not powerfull enough to avoid this ?

 

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