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Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« on: April 30, 2013, 01:37:05 PM »
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/966681-REG/sony_dschx50v_b_cyber_shot_hx50v_digital_camera.html

Looks like a bit of a upgrade over the HX20 and HX30. I've been holding off buying a new camera for a while. (I've been using a Fuiji JZ300 for almost two years)
I was about to pull the trigger on a HX20/30 but now think I'll hold out for the HX50...released May 21st.
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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2013, 08:17:50 PM »
I have a HX9V that I love, and is nearly perfect for me, but that looks pretty upgrade worthy.

Love the hotshoe capabities and the 30x Zoom. I use mine a lot for video and would love a further, smoother zoom, the dial for exposure, and possible audio line in through the shoe.

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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2013, 01:50:21 AM »
that is a nice camera but the Panasonic FZ200 has the audio input and probably better low light performance
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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2013, 02:35:51 PM »
that is a nice camera but the Panasonic FZ200 has the audio input and probably better low light performance

Wow!  I think between these two cameras I'm gonna pull the trigger for an upgrade :-)  Do you have any experience with the Optical Image Stabilization on the Panasonic and/or the Sony?  Is it similar to the stabilization on the Sony HX9v?  Thanks.
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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2013, 04:42:46 PM »

Wow!  I think between these two cameras I'm gonna pull the trigger for an upgrade :-)  Do you have any experience with the Optical Image Stabilization on the Panasonic and/or the Sony?  Is it similar to the stabilization on the Sony HX9v?  Thanks.

Ive owned 2 hx9v's and their stabilization is amazing,  i would assume the hx50v is similar,  no experience with the FZ200 but most cameras now adays have very good stabilization
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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2013, 06:59:17 PM »
I prefer the "less professional" look of the Sony. That Panasonic is nice for sure, but may get you a bit more noticed at the door. ESP when I am  >:D all the audio gear as well.
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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2013, 09:05:25 AM »
Anyone know if you can adjust exposure on the fly with the "dedicated exposure compensation dial?"
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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2013, 09:21:18 AM »
Does this camera record video for more than 30 minutes at a time. I wouldn't mind starting to shoot video occasionally, but would prefer to clamp this to my stand and let it roll for the entire show.
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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2013, 11:30:17 AM »
Anyone know if you can adjust exposure on the fly with the "dedicated exposure compensation dial?"

Hopefully if there's a dedicated dial for it, you can. In the HX9V, it needed to be adjusted in the menu (couldn't do it while recording), but with its big brother, the HX100V, you could do it on the fly.

Does this camera record video for more than 30 minutes at a time. I wouldn't mind starting to shoot video occasionally, but would prefer to clamp this to my stand and let it roll for the entire show.

There was some talk stirring up a little over a year ago about the restriction possibly getting lifted, but don't think anything ever came of it. So, no. Still stuck with 30-minute limits on digicams.
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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2013, 02:40:08 PM »
no raw=why bother? Buy a Canon TS3 for the same money.

30 minute limit?  puleesse....

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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2013, 06:04:07 PM »
What was/is the reason for the 30 minute limit?

Seems sort of stupid. I'd love a small "do it all" camera for those times when I don't want to lug the DSLR around. Would have been great today. Went skiing with the DSLR to get some nice mountain shots. Hiked most of the day which is a royal PITA with a full size camera.

Ideally I'd like:

Small (semi-pocket sized)
Reasonable zoom (15x)
f2.0
1080p with ok low light performance with unlimited record time.
LINE IN audio
$500

Doesn't have to be great at anything.
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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2013, 08:50:54 PM »
Does this camera record video for more than 30 minutes at a time? I wouldn't mind starting to shoot video occasionally, but would prefer to clamp this to my stand and let it roll for the entire show.

Unlike old school videocams where the battery typically attached to the outside of the cam - thus making bigger batteries optional, pretty much all these small digital cameras have one-size-only internal battery compartments.  And their batteries usually only go for around an hour.  So even without the 30 minute time limit - you probably wouldn't be able to hit record and shoot video of the whole show.
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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2013, 01:16:46 AM »

Ideally I'd like:

Small (semi-pocket sized)
Reasonable zoom (15x)
f2.0
1080p with ok low light performance with unlimited record time.
LINE IN audio
$500

Doesn't have to be great at anything.

i doubt its even possible to put that all in a pocket size camera
The closest to that is the panasonic FZ200 but its as big as a small dslr
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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2013, 11:10:13 AM »
Buy a Canon TS3 for the same money.

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What was/is the reason for the 30 minute limit?

Seems sort of stupid.

Oh it's definitely stupid. Has to do with some legal tax/duty BS...

http://www.tested.com/tech/photography/44445-why-digital-cameras-have-a-30-minute-video-recording-limit/
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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2013, 02:55:27 PM »
I guess I should have stated at the beginning of the thread.
But I'm interested in the HX50v BECAUSE it's small with a long zoom.
I'll be using it to record concerts. I don't want to lug around a dslr!!
Yes the battery life will be around an hour to hour and a half. You still have to change out
batteries if you shoot a full show. 30 mins limit on recording is much better than 10-11 a couple years ago!
It is what it is. Looks like the best stats on this type of camera, as of this moment.
Is there anything else coming out this summer or fall that compares?
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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2013, 03:26:21 PM »
The Panasonic FZ200 with f2.8 aperature thru the whole zoom range, mic input and 24x zoom is a better camera for concert shooting but it is bigger than a hx50v



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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2013, 12:15:59 PM »
The Panasonic FZ200 with f2.8 aperature thru the whole zoom range, mic input and 24x zoom is a better camera for concert shooting but it is bigger than a hx50v

Cool. Yes this would be great for bands that allow taping. Only 11 days till the HX50 is released!
Are any other companies coming out with something comparable this year? 30x zoom?

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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2013, 08:50:58 PM »
Canon sx50hs has 50x optical zoom and Canon sx500is has 30x.Fuji have some too
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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2013, 12:42:45 PM »
I guess I should have stated at the beginning of the thread.
But I'm interested in the HX50v BECAUSE it's small with a long zoom.
I'll be using it to record concerts. I don't want to lug around a dslr!!
Yes the battery life will be around an hour to hour and a half. You still have to change out
batteries if you shoot a full show. 30 mins limit on recording is much better than 10-11 a couple years ago!
It is what it is. Looks like the best stats on this type of camera, as of this moment.
Is there anything else coming out this summer or fall that compares?
Links! ;-) Thanks for all the talk though! Any talk about shooting vids is welcome!


I normally wait until the price comes down (I'm cheap!) but may make an exception with this camera.  The zoom and exposure on the fly settings and the stabilization (and small size) make this a great option for concert recording.  I already have the 9v (thanks for the recommend shoestringsconcerts!) and am very happy with the video quality.  In reading the literature (really blurbs) it sounded like the stabilization was different for this camera vs the 9v.  Is this correct?  If I do end up buying this cam, I will happily report back on the results using it. 
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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2013, 12:49:30 PM »
Anyone know if you can adjust exposure on the fly with the "dedicated exposure compensation dial?"

Hopefully if there's a dedicated dial for it, you can. In the HX9V, it needed to be adjusted in the menu (couldn't do it while recording), but with its big brother, the HX100V, you could do it on the fly.

Yes and sort of no ... because you don't have to go into the full menu.  You just need to hit the "custom" button next the on/off button on the HX9V to pop open the EV menu.  So it literally only takes a second to adjust the exposure.
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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2013, 01:14:56 PM »
The zoom and exposure on the fly settings

Has this been confirmed?
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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2013, 08:29:57 AM »
Anyone know if you can adjust exposure on the fly with the "dedicated exposure compensation dial?"

Hopefully if there's a dedicated dial for it, you can. In the HX9V, it needed to be adjusted in the menu (couldn't do it while recording), but with its big brother, the HX100V, you could do it on the fly.

Yes and sort of no ... because you don't have to go into the full menu.  You just need to hit the "custom" button next the on/off button on the HX9V to pop open the EV menu.  So it literally only takes a second to adjust the exposure.

Can that be done while recording though? I don't have my HX9Vs anymore, but never knew that if so.
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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2013, 12:33:21 PM »
Anyone know if you can adjust exposure on the fly with the "dedicated exposure compensation dial?"

Hopefully if there's a dedicated dial for it, you can. In the HX9V, it needed to be adjusted in the menu (couldn't do it while recording), but with its big brother, the HX100V, you could do it on the fly.

Yes and sort of no ... because you don't have to go into the full menu.  You just need to hit the "custom" button next the on/off button on the HX9V to pop open the EV menu.  So it literally only takes a second to adjust the exposure.

Can that be done while recording though? I don't have my HX9Vs anymore, but never knew that if so.

No - I was just pointing out that you don't have to hit the menu button and scroll up, down, and all around looking for the exposure settings to make adjustments.
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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #24 on: May 17, 2013, 01:26:36 PM »
Has anyone noticed any real (not online) stores that will carry the HX50v? (I'm in Atlanta)
Best Buy? Fry's?
Where do I look?
I see on B&H they've pushed the release from May 21st to May22nd...
Am I crazy to think it will be in a regular store? Or stores will carry them..just probably weeks after the release?

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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #25 on: May 22, 2013, 08:16:08 AM »
Has anyone noticed any real (not online) stores that will carry the HX50v? (I'm in Atlanta)
Best Buy? Fry's?
Where do I look?
I see on B&H they've pushed the release from May 21st to May22nd...
Am I crazy to think it will be in a regular store? Or stores will carry them..just probably weeks after the release?

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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2013, 02:55:00 PM »
The zoom and exposure on the fly settings

Has this been confirmed?

Good point.  The dedicated EV dial implies that, but then again you would think that this would be a feature that Sony would explicitly state.  From the little I have read so far from those that have purchased the cam, the stabilization is better than previous cams (like the hx9v) which is good if you are using a 30x zoom.  Still may need to lay off the caffeine a bit :-) 
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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #27 on: May 28, 2013, 08:07:23 PM »
I'm curious how sharp the picture will be if you're zoomed in all the way (using only optical zoom) from the cheap seats.  Obviously, there are many external factors involved (lighting, smoke from fog machines, etc.).
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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #28 on: June 04, 2013, 12:01:36 PM »
My HX50V should be here tomorrow!!! Can't wait!

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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #29 on: June 04, 2013, 08:03:19 PM »
My HX50V should be here tomorrow!!! Can't wait!

Please let us know about the on-the-fly exposure adjustment.
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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #30 on: June 04, 2013, 09:45:31 PM »
Also would like to know if it is same as sony rx100 where in video mode you can set the shutter,apeture,and adjust the iso while recording..and if you can easily switch between auto focus and manual focus too.is there also focus peaking?
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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #31 on: June 06, 2013, 04:42:13 PM »
The EC dial on top is nice but you can not change while filming you must stop
adjust & restart filming and you can only set it in these modes:

P - Program
A - Aperture Priority
S- Shutter Priority

It remembers were you left it last so when you stop
and restart filming a few minutes later
you do not have to reset it.

I have found so far that once you are filming you can not change any settings
to anything else period. I'll keep playing. Just got it in an hour ago.

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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #32 on: June 07, 2013, 02:42:50 AM »
Well, now at least it remembers the EC settings when you turn it off/on... I really miss this on HX20.
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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #33 on: December 07, 2014, 02:45:54 AM »
The EC dial on top is nice but you can not change while filming you must stop
adjust & restart filming and you can only set it in these modes:

P - Program
A - Aperture Priority
S- Shutter Priority

It remembers were you left it last so when you stop
and restart filming a few minutes later
you do not have to reset it.

I have found so far that once you are filming you can not change any settings
to anything else period. I'll keep playing. Just got it in an hour ago.

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Hello !
I've just bought it and I'm disappointed by 1 thing, that I'm on P, A or S, even if I change the exposure just before filming, as soon as I press on " record"  the exposure is always the same, that I'm on + 2 or - 2 , I see it changes on the image if I want to take a picture, but it doesn't change anything as soon as I film . Please do I miss something, or is infact exposure not settable on this device ??? thanx in advance

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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #34 on: December 07, 2014, 03:17:32 AM »
Hello !
I've just bought it and I'm disappointed by 1 thing, that I'm on P, A or S, even if I change the exposure just before filming, as soon as I press on " record"  the exposure is always the same, that I'm on + 2 or - 2 , I see it changes on the image if I want to take a picture, but it doesn't change anything as soon as I film . Please do I miss something, or is in fact exposure not settable on this device ??? thanx in advance

Are you saying if you change the exposure to -2, it stays at -2 while you're filming?  Or are you saying that you set it at -2, and when you start filming the exposure level doesn't change?  Or is it something else altogether?
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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #35 on: December 07, 2014, 04:08:45 AM »
Are you saying if you change the exposure to -2, it stays at -2 while you're filming?  Or are you saying that you set it at -2, and when you start filming the exposure level doesn't change?  Or is it something else altogether?

Simply, exposure doesn't change on video mode, never, on any positions . Even if before filming I see the exposure effect on the screen when I scroll from -2 to +2, as soon as I film, it's like if all set up came back to exposure 0 . That I'm on - 2 or +2, on video mode, no effect .

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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #36 on: December 09, 2014, 03:33:05 PM »
well I really worry, strange that nobody mentions the problem here just after someone told how to set ... do I miss something ? lol

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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #37 on: December 09, 2014, 06:26:56 PM »
Looks like it might need to be in "M" mode only. From the manual (Page 48)
M(Manual Exposure Shooting) - Allows you to shoot after adjusting the exposure manually (both the shutter speed and the aperture (F value)).
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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #38 on: December 10, 2014, 10:02:56 AM »
Looks like it might need to be in "M" mode only. From the manual (Page 48)
M(Manual Exposure Shooting) - Allows you to shoot after adjusting the exposure manually (both the shutter speed and the aperture (F value)).

thanx for the idea but it does'nt work too ... that's ok for shooting photos, not for films . I think it's really impossible . I hope it's setted on the good exposure for concert by default !
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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #39 on: December 10, 2014, 10:14:34 AM »
I have shot shows with the HX50V and know that the exposure adjustment works - so if yours isn't working - I would try to take it back.  It's a long shot - but maybe a firmware update my help?
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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #40 on: December 10, 2014, 11:18:28 AM »
good idea I will try this thanx . anyway in the manual I don't see it's possible , at least the french one . I've only 35 pages on the original manual and absolutly nothing on this, neither on the pdf version ....
edit : even firmware I don't understand how to change it lol ... argh this stuff makes me crazy . I love my hx9v so much, I'm disappointed . are you sure exposure has really change once you film ? I can see exposure change for pictures withotu problem, movie mode comes back to something " auto " and I've read on a test that yes it filmed with exposure and ISO automatic .... I want a proof lol .
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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #41 on: December 10, 2014, 03:15:20 PM »
well, after hours of searches on google, I give up ... really if someone can prove me he can film 2 times the same scene in a different exposure condition with hx50v, I would be very happy . We can set a SCN but not change the exposure manually for this function, I'm 99% sure of that lol !

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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #42 on: December 17, 2014, 09:57:55 AM »
I have shot shows with the HX50V and know that the exposure adjustment works - so if yours isn't working - I would try to take it back.  It's a long shot - but maybe a firmware update my help?
Hello ! sorry to insist but I reallly would like to know how you set exposure for filming ( I mean film only, all work perfectly for pictures ! )  . Thanx in advance ....

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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #43 on: December 17, 2014, 12:30:31 PM »
This doesnt help you but on the sony rx 100 you can definetly change iso while filming.I suggest look for a used. Sony cx500 or 550 if you need long zoom and manual adjustment.
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Re: Looking forward to the new Sony Cyber-shot HX50V
« Reply #44 on: December 30, 2014, 07:38:07 AM »
This doesnt help you but on the sony rx 100 you can definetly change iso while filming.I suggest look for a used. Sony cx500 or 550 if you need long zoom and manual adjustment.
well thanx but the goal is not to buy a real camera, but to have a great compact digicam to film , accepted by security ( I've other things to hide ... lol ) .

Anyway in intelligent mode auto and auto + I've discovered we can set the luminosity with the "down" button and it has effects on the video ! Not so bad ! I will try this at end of January on my next show . For exposure I'm now sure it's impossible .

 

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