Topic: New Guy, Some Broad Sweeping Questions...

[Marshall7]

I love my AT853's, too.  I have the card and omni caps, would love to get the hypers.

[chinariderstl]

...would love to get the hypers.

I second that; not trying to hijack the thread, but I'd love to get my hands on a pair of hypers.  If anyone has a pair laying around, please let me know.

[Marshall7]

...would love to get the hypers.

I second that; not trying to hijack the thread, but I'd love to get my hands on a pair of hypers.  If anyone has a pair laying around, please let me know.

Hey!  Get in line! 

[thunderbolt]

$139 pair at SP.  I paid; worth it IMHO.

[noahbickart]

If you are thinking about taping bands with open sections, have you thought about patching for a while? That's how most people used to get started. You patch, block, hang out. Pretty soon you've made taper friends who are more than happy to lend you gear.

[twatts (pants are so over-rated...)]

My only advice:  don't cheap-skate yourself at the beginning.  You are better off saving your money (all the while doing more and more listening and research) and getting what you will really want, rather than to spend a little here and there getting lackluster results in the meantime... 

With that in mind, I would buy a nice deck and build around that.  I would suggest an M10 or a HD-P2...

Terry


ETA, first things first, I would find the Team Mass thread and get to know those people.  They can give you lots of hands-on advice via their own gear and their own experience at local venues around Mass...

[404 Not Found]

mtandy89, welcome to the board!

Lots of good advice already in the prior quotes.

If you are serious about recording, then start with an scalable setup that you can grow with.  You will not get the setup of your dreams in a day as you know.  It takes time in piecing together and accumulating many of the rigs you see in some of the signatures on the forum as well as from threads discussing particular recorders, stands, mic's and so on. 

If you are going to be recording at various taper friendly events, you may want to consider starting with a deck 1st of which would meet your needs and patch from others until you have the $ for mic.'s.  What I mean by scalable is to get a recorder that's capable of being easily expanded or upgraded depending on your future Mic's and Mixers/Pre's based upon digital input optical input, xlr  or 1/4" in's and such that will ultimately follow on your recording accessory upgrade list.  Who doesn't have a monthly bill to paypal, sweetwater or B&H to name a few?  It gets addictive, to the point of daily visits to Trew Audio, Gotham and a few other Location Sound Equipment Sales, Rentals & Service for Film & Video Production sites.

Some great deals out there on recorders....do the homework and check the websites for the spec pages and compare what's out there that will ultimately meet your needs.

BTW, a Zoom H6 and H5 are not bad to start off with, especially if you are looking to spend only $300.

Enjoy the forum, and look for the "Team" section, as you will probably find a local group to your area to discuss local events.  Know your fellow local taper....you never know when you may need a spare AA battery, patch or even a Velcro tie at an event!

[mec111272]

The obligatory Church Audio plug.

At camp Creek I ran CA14 cards, CA14 Omnis,  Cards to a CA9200 Preamp and Omnis with the plug in power on a Tascam DR2d.  So four channels one preamp some clamps and here we have it.

https://archive.org/details/MC2014-08-24._CA14_

Costs;

Mics and Pre amp from super deal this spring $150
Recorder $100
Misc crap to make it all hang on a rail $50
 $300.

[fmaderjr]

I have 853 cards and hypers, and have found that the hypers blow away the cards in every way. Not sure why, and it isn't just the pattern- the cards are dull and lifeless in comparison.

I only used my hypers about 3 times when in a balcony far from the monitors. All three recordings sounded way better than I expected. I also like the cards when appropriate though (but the sub-cards when appropriate are my favorite).

[yltfan]

One more vote for AT853. If you get in the right spot, they can really shine!

[mtandy89]

I'm thinking i'm going to be doing a lot of open taping, but the stuff I most want to get will not be taper friendly, for the most part, so I'm thinking the AT853's are going to be the way to go for me…Forgive my awful questions, but what is patching?

I didn't realize there were local threads, so I guess I'll jump over there next!

Thanks for all the awesome info, guys, way to make a noob feel welcome!

[bombdiggity]

Forgive my awful questions, but what is patching?

Patching meaning running a line out of someone else's rig, so you're "in line" behind their gear.  In the early daze people would chain their decks together (sometimes out of the board, sometimes behind the mics they liked best).  I recall one show where I had the board feed and about 8 guys behind me one after another    (at that point in time analog and I think a few of them minidisc)... 

[mtandy89]

Forgive my awful questions, but what is patching?

Patching meaning running a line out of someone else's rig, so you're "in line" behind their gear.  In the early daze people would chain their decks together (sometimes out of the board, sometimes behind the mics they liked best).  I recall one show where I had the board feed and about 8 guys behind me one after another    (at that point in time analog and I think a few of them minidisc)...

Ahh, I hadn't even considered that a possibility! The more you know...

[chinariderstl]

If you pick up a pair of AT853's, make sure to pick up one of Brian's (it-goes-to-eleven) Delrin mounting bars.  Everything is measured out, true plug-and-play.  Takes out the guesswork and makes setup and tear-down a cinch.

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=168213.msg2106529#msg2106529

[mtandy89]

If you pick up a pair of AT853's, make sure to pick up one of Brian's (it-goes-to-eleven) Delrin mounting bars.  Everything is measured out, true plug-and-play.  Takes out the guesswork and makes setup and tear-down a cinch.

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=168213.msg2106529#msg2106529

Those are sweet! What does that require to set up besides mics and a stand?