Become a Site Supporter and Never see Ads again!

Author Topic: Point and shoot cameras -- suggestions  (Read 3622 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline TaperBryan

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 3777
  • Gender: Male
  • "Vicarious existence is a fucking waste of time"
Point and shoot cameras -- suggestions
« on: September 08, 2014, 10:57:37 AM »
My wife is in need of another small point and shoot camera. For those that use these at shows, I'm open to suggestions on what's out there these days.

I know Jimina and Gina [Gray's wife] would likely have some good input here.

TIA,
Bryan
12/17/11 rig update: AKG c480b(ck61/62/63) > Canare StarQuad mic cables > EAA PSP-2 and/or Lunatec V3 > Marantz PMD-661 (Oade Bros. Warm Mod)

2-7-07 rig update: AKG c480b(ck61/62/63) > Canare StarQuad mic cables > Lunatec V3 and/or EAA-PSP2 > ODL-276 > NJB3|D8.

Offline ashevillain

  • Trade Count: (24)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 3347
Re: Point and shoot cameras -- suggestions
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2014, 11:58:26 AM »
Allow me to offer my 2 cents since I've done tons of research on this topic.

Sony RX-100 (I, II, or III...they're all good) is the benchmark to which all compact P&S cameras are held. No other compact P&S comes close to the quality. Of course this is the most expensive in it's class as well, but the Mark I and II can be had for decent prices either used or new old stock. It's not the smallest and doesn't have the telephoto range of others in it's class but it is fast across it's entire range (f1.8 - 2.8 ) which means it performs better in low light. If I had enough money for this camera, I'd definitely have one.

I personally am using a Canon S100 (the current version is S120), which is about the size of a deck of cards. It is the smallest in its class and one of the cheapest. Very good image quality out of this compared to everything other than the Sony.

All of the cameras in this class have their pros & cons. It's basically a matter of first setting your budget and then determining which features are important to you. The link below is a good starting point for your research. You might say you're not looking for "high end pocketable camera" -- If that's the case and your budget is small, then consider the Canon S100 or S110. I actually am considering changing things up so if a lightly used S100 is what you're looking for, PM me.

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/9935181366/high-end-pocketable-compacts-2013-roundup
« Last Edit: September 08, 2014, 12:02:20 PM by ashevillain »

Offline TaperBryan

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 3777
  • Gender: Male
  • "Vicarious existence is a fucking waste of time"
Re: Point and shoot cameras -- suggestions
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2014, 12:03:04 PM »
Allow me to offer my 2 cents since I've done tons of research on this topic.

Sony RX-100 (I, II, or III...they're all good) is the benchmark to which all compact P&S cameras are held. No other compact P&S comes close to the quality. Of course this is the most expensive in it's class as well, but the Mark I and II can be had for decent prices either used or new old stock. It's not the smallest and doesn't have the telephoto range of others in it's class but it is fast across it's entire range (f1.8 - 2.8 ) which means it performs better in low light. If I had enough money for this camera, I'd definitely have one.

I personally am using a Canon S100 (the current version is S120), which is about the size of a deck of cards. It is the smallest in its class and one of the cheapest. Very good image quality out of this compared to everything other than the Sony.

All of the cameras in this class have their pros & cons. It's basically a matter of first setting your budget and then determining which features are important to you. The link below is a good starting point for your research. You might say you're not looking for "high end pocketable camera" -- If that's the case and your budget is small, then consider the Canon S100 or S110. I actually am considering changing things up so if a lightly used S100 is what you're looking for, PM me.

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/9935181366/high-end-pocketable-compacts-2013-roundup

Thanks for the input. I'll do some research.
12/17/11 rig update: AKG c480b(ck61/62/63) > Canare StarQuad mic cables > EAA PSP-2 and/or Lunatec V3 > Marantz PMD-661 (Oade Bros. Warm Mod)

2-7-07 rig update: AKG c480b(ck61/62/63) > Canare StarQuad mic cables > Lunatec V3 and/or EAA-PSP2 > ODL-276 > NJB3|D8.

Offline chinariderstl

  • Trade Count: (43)
  • Taperssection All-Star
  • ****
  • Posts: 1260
  • Gender: Male
    • https://chris-finn.com/
Re: Point and shoot cameras -- suggestions
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2014, 12:12:28 PM »
This is the one I have; I love it.  Couldn't be easier nor nicer.  At least, in my opinion.  Although, I am Sony gear-whore, so...

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/838520-REG/Sony_DSCW650_B_Cyber_Shot_DSC_W650_Digital_Camera.html
Mics: Audio-Technica AT853's, Avantone CK-40 (Busman mod), Busman BSC1's, DPA 4022's, DPA 4060's
Pres: Apogee Mini-MP, Core Sound Battery Box
Decks: Sony PCM-M10, Tascam DR-2D, Tascam DR-680 (Busman mod)
Power: Initial RB-270, Naztech PB15000
LMA: http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=taper%3A%22Chris+Finn%22

Offline Jhurlbs81

  • Trade Count: (18)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 2374
  • Gender: Male
  • Reinvented, redefined, rearranged but not refined
    • My LMA collection
Re: Point and shoot cameras -- suggestions
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2014, 12:20:24 PM »
iPhone 5/5S

Offline Fatah Ruark (aka MIKE B)

  • Trade Count: (9)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 8788
  • Gender: Male
  • I dream in beige.
    • sloppy.art.ink
Re: Point and shoot cameras -- suggestions
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2014, 12:36:58 PM »
Budget and size?

I've heard good things about the Sony A6000 and am thinking of picking one up soon. It's $750 with lens. Probably a little larger than the average P+S, but not huge.

One of the reasons I like the A6000 is that it's small enough that I think I should be able to bring it into most shows without it looking "professional", but will also let me take really nice photos. Also you can change lenses so you can use it for a variety of venue sizes.
-24      -12              -6             0       OVER
||||||||||||||||||||||||||| []  
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||| []

||| MICS:  Beyer CK930 ~ Nevaton MCE400 ~ Countryman B3 |||
||| CABLES: Kind Kables |||
||| PREAMPS: Naiant Tinybox | Naiant Littlebox | Naiant IPA | Church BB |||
||| DECKS: Sound Devices MixPre-6 | Sony M10 |||
||| PLAYBACK: Outlaw Audio RR2150 > Epos ELS8 |||
||| PHOTO: Sony a6000 | Sony 16-50 | Sony 55-210 | Rokinon 14mm | Rokinon 8mm |||
|||Concerts History || LMA Recordings || Live YouTube Channel|||

Offline ilduclo

  • Trade Count: (3)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 3843
Re: Point and shoot cameras -- suggestions
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2014, 01:02:40 PM »
This is the one I have; I love it.  Couldn't be easier nor nicer.  At least, in my opinion.  Although, I am Sony gear-whore, so...

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/838520-REG/Sony_DSCW650_B_Cyber_Shot_DSC_W650_Digital_Camera.html

I agree, I went from Canon>Panasonic>Sony and am really pleased. Got ms Ild one, too, she also likes it a lot, good low light pics and macros

Offline Phil Zone

  • Trade Count: (18)
  • Taperssection Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 950
  • Gender: Male
Re: Point and shoot cameras -- suggestions
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2014, 01:18:53 PM »
Canon sx280hs I love mine it's incredible
Microphones: Busman BSC-1, AKG C460B/CK61/CK63, Samson CL2, CA-14 (cards), Naiant X-X
Preamps: Naiant Littlebox [X3] (OT)(OT/IT)(OT/Black), Naiant Tinyhead
Recorders: Tascam DR-680, Sony PCM-M10, Tascam DR-05
Software: Sony Sound Forge/ Vegas, TLH
Photo: Canon 7D Mark ii/70D, 70-200 f2.8, 18-135 STM, 55-250 STM, Tamron 17-50 f2.8, Tokina 11-16 f2.8

LMA Shows: http://archive.org/search.php?query=taper%3A%22Cam%20Keough%22&sort=-date

Offline beatkilla

  • Trade Count: (29)
  • Taperssection All-Star
  • ****
  • Posts: 1415
  • Gender: Male
Re: Point and shoot cameras -- suggestions
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2014, 02:20:01 PM »
Really depends if you need large zoom or not.I have tried many and nothing comes close to my dslr at all.The Sony rx100 was very good but short zoom.

adrianf74

  • Guest
  • Trade Count: (0)
Re: Point and shoot cameras -- suggestions
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2014, 03:37:45 PM »
RX100.  I have an M2 and there's not much of a difference between the M2 and M3 but the M2 was a step up from the original model.

Excellent for concert photos (in 5 megapixel mode) and simply awesome with natural light.  Has many of the manual settings DSLR's have but without the size.   Even though the zoom is short on the camera, it has a "Clear Image Zoom" mode which is an enhanced zoom and I've been very happy with my pictures.  The Digital Zoom (as with all cameras) is crap, though.

Only problem with the RX100 is the price-tag.

Offline SmokinJoe

  • Trade Count: (63)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 4188
  • Gender: Male
  • "75 and sunny"... life is so much simpler.
    • uploads to archive.org
Re: Point and shoot cameras -- suggestions
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2014, 08:42:05 PM »
The thing about concerts is they are notoriously dark, although the musicians are frequently well lit.  Don't get hung up on who has the most megapixels, in fact that is almost the opposite of what works well in the dark.  To gather the most light in the dark you want BIG pixels. For the same size sensor, the one with higher megapixels will have smaller pixels.  Bigger sensors are better.

You can't really trust the manufacturers when they try to brag "my camera goes to ISO 12800 or 25600".  It can go that high, but it's just a setting on the camera.  It might look like crap above 1600.

One resource I pay attention to is dxomark.com.  Here is a page where I selected 3 cameras from a list.  I don't know anything about these particular cameras, I just grabbed one each Sony, Canon, and Nikon for demo purposes.
http://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Compare/Side-by-side/Sony-Cyber-shot-DSC-RX100-III-versus-Canon-PowerShot-G1-X-Mark-II-versus-Nikon-Coolpix-P340___957_941_939
Below the cameras are 4 blue bar graphs for each camera.  The bottom bar graph shows "Low Light ISO" with 495, 581, and 273.  They run some standard test on all these cameras, and decide that each camera can obtain a certain high level of clarity with low noise up to this ISO. The number doesn't mean much except it gives you an idea of how well each one does in the dark relative to each other.  The difference between 495 and 581 is 20% and probably not visible, but the difference between 581 and 273 is more than double, and that is significant.  By comparison my Nikon D700 has a rating of 2303, and the current state of the art body is the Nikon D4S at 3074, for something like $6000.  Anyway, if you are comparing different cameras, I think it's worth a few minutes to look up on DXOmark.
Mics: Gefell M200's & M210's / ADK-TL / AT853's / DPA4061's
Pres: V3 / ST9100
Decks: Oade Concert Mod R4Pro / R09 / R05
Big Rig: split snake > Focusrite & Presonus Pres > ADAT > Alesis HD-24 > Protools 11
Daughter's rig:  AT4050ST > Busman Hybrid R4
Photo: Nikon D700's, 2.8 Zooms, and Zeiss primes
Playback: Raspberry Pi > Modi2 Uber > Magni2 > HD650

Offline 2manyrocks

  • Trade Count: (11)
  • Taperssection All-Star
  • ****
  • Posts: 1585
Re: Point and shoot cameras -- suggestions
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2014, 10:58:02 PM »
www.getolympus.com sometimes has a 15% off sale on their e pm2 micro 4/3 camera with a 14-42 kit lens refurb for about $200.  The nice thing about this camera is you can pick up a better low light lens later if you want and still use it on this camera body. 

Offline TaperBryan

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 3777
  • Gender: Male
  • "Vicarious existence is a fucking waste of time"
Re: Point and shoot cameras -- suggestions
« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2014, 11:29:01 AM »
Thanks all! We def. have some research to do.

Sorry for posting in the incorrect forum, Brian. 

Bryan
12/17/11 rig update: AKG c480b(ck61/62/63) > Canare StarQuad mic cables > EAA PSP-2 and/or Lunatec V3 > Marantz PMD-661 (Oade Bros. Warm Mod)

2-7-07 rig update: AKG c480b(ck61/62/63) > Canare StarQuad mic cables > Lunatec V3 and/or EAA-PSP2 > ODL-276 > NJB3|D8.

Offline spyder9

  • Trade Count: (59)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 12095
  • Gender: Male
  • "Are you Zman!?"
    • My Archived shows
Re: Point and shoot cameras -- suggestions
« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2014, 05:07:52 PM »
You want a super-zoom P&S, Bryan.  Something that you can shoot from the TS during packed shows.  All around P&S if you will.

I suggest any of the following Canon PowerShot models.  All are part of the same food chain.

Canon SX230 (2011), SX260 (2012), SX280 (2013), SX600 (2014), SX700 (2014) 

Offline 2manyrocks

  • Trade Count: (11)
  • Taperssection All-Star
  • ****
  • Posts: 1585
Re: Point and shoot cameras -- suggestions
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2014, 03:52:41 PM »
I bought point and shoots for Mrs. Rocks for years because they were convenient for her to keep in her purse.   If I were buying a camera for her today, I'd have to ask her what she really wants at this point.  I'm not sure if she would want another point and shoot or would be interested in a camera that would let her use my mu 4/3 lenses. 

 

RSS | Mobile
Page created in 0.207 seconds with 37 queries.
© 2002-2017 Taperssection.com
Powered by SMF
Website Design by Foxtrot Media, Inc., a Baltimore Website Company