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recommend AA rechargeable to purchase
« on: October 31, 2016, 11:51:52 AM »
Hi All,

Been too long since I've done any serious recording, unfortunately.

I have a few AA rechargeable batteries, but some may be dead and can't be revived by the la crosse charger I have. What's popular these days with yall? There's a frys nearby so I'll price shop between them and amazon.

I vaguely remember the sony M10 not doing as well with rechargeable as non-rechargeable. Is that correct or am I mis-remembering?

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Re: recommend AA rechargeable to purchase
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2016, 12:50:28 PM »
my m10 runs great on rechargables (10+ Hours per charge) -- so that's not an issue

You should be good with any name brand LSD (low self-discharge) nimh battery -- I use duracell and everready lsd nimh with great success -- the "gold standard" is the eneloop brand by panasonic.


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Re: recommend AA rechargeable to purchase
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2016, 02:48:01 PM »
You should be good with any name brand LSD (low self-discharge) nimh battery -- I use duracell and everready lsd nimh with great success -- the "gold standard" is the eneloop brand by panasonic.

What milliamp do you use with duracell and everready?

I'll also check out the panasonic ones!
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Re: recommend AA rechargeable to purchase
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2016, 06:20:41 PM »
don't know off the top of my head -- likely 2,200 MAH or so, whatever they had in stock (and on special) at my local grocery store.  Will follow-up when I get home

To be candid, although I run both the "regular" white Eneloops, the high capacity black eneloops and several different batches of energizer/duracell LSD NIMH batteries, all have behaved similarly for me when used/charged in my lacrosse charger.  In fact, since I replaced my pre LSD NIMH batteries a few years ago, I haven't seen a need to discharge/condition any of my current crop and find them all to behave similarly (i.e. they all provide more power/run time than alkaline batteries and all hold their charge quite well for a month or so post-charge)

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Re: recommend AA rechargeable to purchase
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2016, 10:07:36 PM »
I too use Duracell, also believe they are like 21/2200

Work great
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Re: recommend AA rechargeable to purchase
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2016, 07:19:46 AM »
I have had GREAT success with the 2,300mah Energizer AA's! Been using them for MANY years, and they normally last around 5 years or so with my Powerex MHC-9000 HQ AA/AAA Charger :) You can find them ANYWHERE, usually Wal-Mart for me!

I also LOVE Tenergy brand batteries! They make a high-capacity AA that's rather cheap online! I use their 9v & 9.6v NIMH batteries as well! Here's a link!
http://www.all-battery.com/8pcsTenergyPremiumAA2500mAhNiMH_Rechargeable_BatteriesPlus2AAHolders-90431.aspx
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Re: recommend AA rechargeable to purchase
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2016, 05:34:17 PM »
Regarding rechargeable batteries vs. alkaline: I'm taking a Mix-Pre D out for the first time tonight and am wondering about battery life (regular vs. rechargeable) I have some white Panasonic enloops (never used them so don't know how they perform) and also plenty of new regular alkaline batteries. I'll be running P48 mics
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Re: recommend AA rechargeable to purchase
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2016, 01:29:42 AM »
I picked up two 4 packs of energizer AA2300 mAh.

That's a very good sale price, Bean!
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Re: recommend AA rechargeable to purchase
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2016, 01:30:35 AM »
Regarding rechargeable batteries vs. alkaline: I'm taking a Mix-Pre D out for the first time tonight and am wondering about battery life (regular vs. rechargeable) I have some white Panasonic enloops (never used them so don't know how they perform) and also plenty of new regular alkaline batteries. I'll be running P48 mics

let us know what you use and how it goes!
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Re: recommend AA rechargeable to purchase
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2016, 02:09:33 PM »
Regarding rechargeable batteries vs. alkaline: I'm taking a Mix-Pre D out for the first time tonight and am wondering about battery life (regular vs. rechargeable) I have some white Panasonic enloops (never used them so don't know how they perform) and also plenty of new regular alkaline batteries. I'll be running P48 mics

IMO, it always pays to do a dry run -- set the rig up, record the radio, etc. and see how long it goes until you get low battery warnings -- recharge batteries and retry a few times to get comfortable and you should have a good idea of what you need.  Interestingly, the eneloops and other nimh batteries generally have a higher capacity than alkaline batteries.  However, since NIMH run at a lower voltage than alkalines, you need to make sure the device voltage cutoff/warning isn't kicking in too early.

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Re: recommend AA rechargeable to purchase
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2016, 09:24:42 AM »
Eneloops run in all of my gear unless it is ProCell 9v in my Sonosax(s) or an external battery pack of some kind
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Re: recommend AA rechargeable to purchase
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2016, 08:22:55 PM »
Regarding rechargeable batteries vs. alkaline: I'm taking a Mix-Pre D out for the first time tonight and am wondering about battery life (regular vs. rechargeable) I have some white Panasonic enloops (never used them so don't know how they perform) and also plenty of new regular alkaline batteries. I'll be running P48 mics

IMO, it always pays to do a dry run -- set the rig up, record the radio, etc. and see how long it goes until you get low battery warnings -- recharge batteries and retry a few times to get comfortable and you should have a good idea of what you need.  Interestingly, the eneloops and other nimh batteries generally have a higher capacity than alkaline batteries.  However, since NIMH run at a lower voltage than alkalines, you need to make sure the device voltage cutoff/warning isn't kicking in too early.

100% agreed! If you DO NOT do a "dry run", you'll never know exactly how long your rig will run! Cycle those new batteries at least a handful of times, and then a few test runs, and you should be good to go ;)
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Re: recommend AA rechargeable to purchase
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2016, 10:54:33 AM »
With only 500 recharges have you noticed any of these crapping out yet?  I did not know Pro's existed.

Panasonic Eneloop Pro

The best in the world, imo.


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Re: recommend AA rechargeable to purchase
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2017, 08:39:46 AM »
When did Panasonic take over the Eneloop brand?  I have many AA's that were manufactured by Sanyo/Eneloop that are still performing as good as new. I've been using them in my R09hr for years. I just recently put three of them to work in a Tascam DR40 using Phantom power 48 with DPA4099s. They held up for about 2 hours of recording & one hour of playback on my ride home.

 

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