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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 8)
« Reply #30 on: March 09, 2017, 09:13:57 PM »
Under BASIC > PAN
Left 12 = left channel only, Right 12 = right channel only.

Default should be input channels 1 & 3 go to Left 12, inputs 2 & 4 would be Right 12

Zero is in the center (mono)


I've read some of the different threads and through the FAQ, but still unsure about the pan feature.  I doubt I'll run four channel so for two channels in XLR or stereo mini input what its the recommended pan setting?

...And you can safely ignore the PAN setting, as it has no effect unless you're recording in 2MIX mode (a 4 > 2 channel downmix, I don't recommend it).
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 8)
« Reply #31 on: March 10, 2017, 04:28:51 PM »
Check out the DR-70D mic input noise measurements at Avisoft
http://www.avisoft.com/recordertests.htm 

These results put the DR-70D right at the top of the list for quiet mic inputs.
Also amazing that the EIN measured the same for both high and mid-level gain.
Super impressive for a $300 deck.

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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 8)
« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2017, 04:49:44 PM »
Check out the DR-70D mic input noise measurements at Avisoft
http://www.avisoft.com/recordertests.htm 

These results put the DR-70D right at the top of the list for quiet mic inputs.
Also amazing that the EIN measured the same for both high and mid-level gain.
Super impressive for a $300 deck.

Damn. That's wild.
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 8)
« Reply #33 on: March 10, 2017, 07:08:43 PM »
Wow nice specs!! 
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 8)
« Reply #34 on: March 11, 2017, 03:37:14 AM »
...And you can safely ignore the PAN setting, as it has no effect unless you're recording in 2MIX mode (a 4 > 2 channel downmix, I don't recommend it).

D'oh!!

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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 8)
« Reply #35 on: March 11, 2017, 09:06:47 AM »
...And you can safely ignore the PAN setting, as it has no effect unless you're recording in 2MIX mode (a 4 > 2 channel downmix, I don't recommend it).

D'oh!!

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Not to a 70d newb.  I don't know what pan is in a recorder.  So, I wouldn't know why I would use it or how to.

Thanks anyway.


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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 8)
« Reply #36 on: March 11, 2017, 09:07:52 AM »
Check out the DR-70D mic input noise measurements at Avisoft
http://www.avisoft.com/recordertests.htm 

These results put the DR-70D right at the top of the list for quiet mic inputs.
Also amazing that the EIN measured the same for both high and mid-level gain.
Super impressive for a $300 deck.

This almost seems to good to be true, although I've always found the preamps plenty quiet as long as HIGH+ gain is avoided.
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 8)
« Reply #37 on: March 11, 2017, 12:18:04 PM »
The DR100mkiii is further down the list below the 70d and the 680? 

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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 8)
« Reply #38 on: March 13, 2017, 12:53:12 PM »
Check out the DR-70D mic input noise measurements at Avisoft
http://www.avisoft.com/recordertests.htm 

These results put the DR-70D right at the top of the list for quiet mic inputs.
Also amazing that the EIN measured the same for both high and mid-level gain.
Super impressive for a $300 deck.

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According to this chart, the dr70d should allow for higher resolution than a SD 722.
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 8)
« Reply #39 on: March 13, 2017, 01:10:41 PM »
Check out the DR-70D mic input noise measurements at Avisoft
http://www.avisoft.com/recordertests.htm 

These results put the DR-70D right at the top of the list for quiet mic inputs.
Also amazing that the EIN measured the same for both high and mid-level gain.
Super impressive for a $300 deck.

This almost seems to good to be true, although I've always found the preamps plenty quiet as long as HIGH+ gain is avoided.

According to this chart, the dr70d should allow for higher resolution than a SD 722.

Considering there is 10 years between the technology in those devices...not so hard to believe.
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 8)
« Reply #40 on: March 13, 2017, 02:43:46 PM »
Check out the DR-70D mic input noise measurements at Avisoft
http://www.avisoft.com/recordertests.htm 

These results put the DR-70D right at the top of the list for quiet mic inputs.
Also amazing that the EIN measured the same for both high and mid-level gain.
Super impressive for a $300 deck.

This almost seems to good to be true, although I've always found the preamps plenty quiet as long as HIGH+ gain is avoided.

According to this chart, the dr70d should allow for higher resolution than a SD 722.

Considering there is 10 years between the technology in those devices...not so hard to believe.

Yes, but given the difference in MSRP, it's still interesting to note.

I wonder if SD will produce something to replace the 7XX series, and compete with the zoom.
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 8)
« Reply #41 on: March 13, 2017, 03:42:04 PM »
The DR100mkiii is further down the list below the 70d and the 680?

Yes, I find that strange too, since Tascam claims to have greatly improved the DR100mk3's preamps.

And where does this put the DR-701D?
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 8)
« Reply #42 on: March 13, 2017, 05:22:22 PM »
Not to a 70d newb.  I don't know what pan is in a recorder.  So, I wouldn't know why I would use it or how to.

Thanks anyway.

In general, the Pan feature assigns individual channels to either left, right, or somewhere in between.

According to what Volt posted, unless you're mixing your inputs for a real-time output using the 2Mix feature, any Pan setting will be ignored by the unit. If you DO want to mix using 2Mix, Left 12 is full left with no right channel output, and Right 12 is full right, with no left channel output.

As Volt suggests, when recording direct to tracks (NOT using the 2Mix feature) Input channels 1&3 will automatically be assigned to pure left, and channels 2&4 will be assigned pure right.

Does this make sense?
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 8)
« Reply #43 on: March 13, 2017, 08:29:25 PM »
Check out the DR-70D mic input noise measurements at Avisoft
http://www.avisoft.com/recordertests.htm 

These results put the DR-70D right at the top of the list for quiet mic inputs.
Also amazing that the EIN measured the same for both high and mid-level gain.
Super impressive for a $300 deck.

This almost seems to good to be true, although I've always found the preamps plenty quiet as long as HIGH+ gain is avoided.

According to this chart, the dr70d should allow for higher resolution than a SD 722.

Considering there is 10 years between the technology in those devices...not so hard to believe.

Yes, but given the difference in MSRP, it's still interesting to note.

I wonder if SD will produce something to replace the 7XX series, and compete with the zoom.

Not to mention the difference in quality of the actual components used in the units which has something to do with that price difference, 10 years technology difference notwithstanding.

I'm a regular user of the 70D, but have a hard time believing these test results unless they are verified by others.

Here's food for thought: Tascam lists the EIN as "-120 dB or less" in their own specifications, yet Avisoft shows -129 dB which is not a tiny difference.  Wouldn't you expect the manufacturer have the best-case-scenario when listing specs?
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 8)
« Reply #44 on: March 13, 2017, 08:41:53 PM »
Check out the DR-70D mic input noise measurements at Avisoft
http://www.avisoft.com/recordertests.htm 

These results put the DR-70D right at the top of the list for quiet mic inputs.
Also amazing that the EIN measured the same for both high and mid-level gain.
Super impressive for a $300 deck.

This almost seems to good to be true, although I've always found the preamps plenty quiet as long as HIGH+ gain is avoided.

According to this chart, the dr70d should allow for higher resolution than a SD 722.

Considering there is 10 years between the technology in those devices...not so hard to believe.

Yes, but given the difference in MSRP, it's still interesting to note.

I wonder if SD will produce something to replace the 7XX series, and compete with the zoom.

Not to mention the difference in quality of the actual components used in the units which has something to do with that price difference, 10 years technology difference notwithstanding.

I'm a regular user of the 70D, but have a hard time believing these test results unless they are verified by others.

Here's food for thought: Tascam lists the EIN as "-120 dB or less" in their own specifications, yet Avisoft shows -129 dB which is not a tiny difference.  Wouldn't you expect the manufacturer have the best-case-scenario when listing specs?

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