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AKG481 maiden voyage. Which preamp? (If any)
« on: December 09, 2017, 05:09:21 PM »
I'll be taking out my AKG's for the first time ever tonight.
Just looking for advice on deck/preamp pairings that go nicely
With these mics.

I can go

A) 481 > Mix Pre-D > marantz PMD661 (AES)

B) 481 > SD 722

C) 481 > Naiant (littlebox or tinybox) > Sony M10

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks!
Mics: CA-14(cards & omnis) and CA-11(cards & omnis) ; AT853's(cards, hypers, mini shotguns); Busman BSC-1 (cards, hypers, omnis)
Nakamichi CM300's (CP-1,2,3,4) Nakamichi CM700's (cards, omnis)
Tascam PE-120's (cards, omnis) Peluso CEMC-6 (cards and subcards)
DPA 4061's DPA 4022's
Preamps: CA-9100; Naiant Tinybox (12v/48v + PIP 8V); Naiant Littlebox;
DPA MPS6030; Sound Device Mix Pre-D
Decks: Sony PCM M10; Edirol R-4; Zoom H6; Marantz PMD-661; Sound Devices 722

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Re: AKG481 maiden voyage. Which preamp? (If any)
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2017, 05:17:59 PM »
I never owned any of that gear but I think I would choose (A)

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Re: AKG481 maiden voyage. Which preamp? (If any)
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2017, 05:33:37 PM »
Would it be feasible to bring a do more than one option over the course of the night so you can get a good comparison?
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Re: AKG481 maiden voyage. Which preamp? (If any)
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2017, 06:36:37 PM »
Usually I love to switch things around at set breaks etc to run comps,
However tonight is kind of special in that they're doing a documentary on the artist and running three cameras
so I think it would be best to pick one combo and stick with it for the whole night because they are
likely going to sync my audio with their video in post.

I will be running at least one (if not two) other sets of mics to make sure I have a back up and that at least one of the 2 (or 3)
sources will be really good.
Mics: CA-14(cards & omnis) and CA-11(cards & omnis) ; AT853's(cards, hypers, mini shotguns); Busman BSC-1 (cards, hypers, omnis)
Nakamichi CM300's (CP-1,2,3,4) Nakamichi CM700's (cards, omnis)
Tascam PE-120's (cards, omnis) Peluso CEMC-6 (cards and subcards)
DPA 4061's DPA 4022's
Preamps: CA-9100; Naiant Tinybox (12v/48v + PIP 8V); Naiant Littlebox;
DPA MPS6030; Sound Device Mix Pre-D
Decks: Sony PCM M10; Edirol R-4; Zoom H6; Marantz PMD-661; Sound Devices 722

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Re: AKG481 maiden voyage. Which preamp? (If any)
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2017, 06:59:35 PM »
I would not hesitate to run straight into the 722.
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Re: AKG481 maiden voyage. Which preamp? (If any)
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2017, 09:34:39 PM »
ive always liked my AKGs with my littlebox ran my 461s with it last night for CR
XB and it came out greaT. Youll be fine with any if the options you referenced.
Mics:  Gefell M20,M21/sms2000/nbob | Schoeps MK4V/cmc6/nbob | AKG c460b/c480b/a60/Naiant actives - ck61,62,63,69 ;ck1,3,8;ck1x,2x,3x | AT853, AT933 | CA-11c,o
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Re: AKG481 maiden voyage. Which preamp? (If any)
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2017, 10:34:01 PM »
Stop showing off!  Lol
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Re: AKG481 maiden voyage. Which preamp? (If any)
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2017, 04:37:48 PM »
C
A
B
Mics - AKG ck61/ck63 (c480b & Naiant actives), SP-BMC-2
XLR Cables - Silver Path w/Darktrain stubbies
Interconnect Cables - Dogstar (XLR), Darktrain (RCA > 1/8) (1/8 > 1/8), and Kind Kables (1/8f > 1/4)
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Re: AKG481 maiden voyage. Which preamp? (If any)
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2017, 02:25:49 AM »
B. Just to prove the mics>722 is a worthy option. I've been a 722 owner since launch many years ago and my mics>722 are a proven option.

Look for "tim in Jersey" on archive.org for proof...
 
This one in particular...: https://archive.org/details/rre2013-10-13.mk4v.DIN.flac16

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Re: AKG481 maiden voyage. Which preamp? (If any)
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2017, 08:56:21 AM »
B. Just to prove the mics>722 is a worthy option. I've been a 722 owner since launch many years ago and my mics>722 are a proven option.

Look for "tim in Jersey" on archive.org for proof...
 
This one in particular...: https://archive.org/details/rre2013-10-13.mk4v.DIN.flac16
you use schoeps though. Personally I think akg > 7xx doesn't sound good
Where schoeps and dpa do
That's why I put b last but everyone's ears are different
Mics - AKG ck61/ck63 (c480b & Naiant actives), SP-BMC-2
XLR Cables - Silver Path w/Darktrain stubbies
Interconnect Cables - Dogstar (XLR), Darktrain (RCA > 1/8) (1/8 > 1/8), and Kind Kables (1/8f > 1/4)
Preamps - Naiant Littlebox & Tinybox
Recorders - PCM-M10 & DR-60D

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Re: AKG481 maiden voyage. Which preamp? (If any)
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2017, 02:25:54 PM »
what did you choose and how did it go?
if it aint broke, don't fix it

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Re: AKG481 maiden voyage. Which preamp? (If any)
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2017, 12:36:14 AM »
B. Just to prove the mics>722 is a worthy option. I've been a 722 owner since launch many years ago and my mics>722 are a proven option.

Look for "tim in Jersey" on archive.org for proof...
 
This one in particular...: https://archive.org/details/rre2013-10-13.mk4v.DIN.flac16
you use schoeps though. Personally I think akg > 7xx doesn't sound good
Where schoeps and dpa do
That's why I put b last but everyone's ears are different

Fair enough. When I still ran AKG 48x I used to run a V3>722 and haven't listened to enough recordings straight in to 722 to form an opinion. Hadn't considered that angle...

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Re: AKG481 maiden voyage. Which preamp? (If any)
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2017, 09:25:50 PM »
Can't beat 480 v3 combo
Mics - AKG ck61/ck63 (c480b & Naiant actives), SP-BMC-2
XLR Cables - Silver Path w/Darktrain stubbies
Interconnect Cables - Dogstar (XLR), Darktrain (RCA > 1/8) (1/8 > 1/8), and Kind Kables (1/8f > 1/4)
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Re: AKG481 maiden voyage. Which preamp? (If any)
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2017, 12:05:28 AM »
I very much like the sound of my 481s > FP24 combo.
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Re: AKG481 maiden voyage. Which preamp? (If any)
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2017, 05:31:26 AM »
Thanks for all the input. I ended up using the Littlebox>M10 based on another recommendation for that combo. Turned out really nice! For this Fridays show I'll mix it up and go with one of the other combos.
I usually really like whatever I pair with the MixPre D > (AES) Marantz PMD661 so I'll likely try that (however the Dpa 4022's are about the only mics I've tried that don't really sound very good to me with that combo. They sound killer with the Tinybox or Littlebox though.
Mics: CA-14(cards & omnis) and CA-11(cards & omnis) ; AT853's(cards, hypers, mini shotguns); Busman BSC-1 (cards, hypers, omnis)
Nakamichi CM300's (CP-1,2,3,4) Nakamichi CM700's (cards, omnis)
Tascam PE-120's (cards, omnis) Peluso CEMC-6 (cards and subcards)
DPA 4061's DPA 4022's
Preamps: CA-9100; Naiant Tinybox (12v/48v + PIP 8V); Naiant Littlebox;
DPA MPS6030; Sound Device Mix Pre-D
Decks: Sony PCM M10; Edirol R-4; Zoom H6; Marantz PMD-661; Sound Devices 722

 

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