Topic: Time to upgrade

[jhirte]

Can someone point me in the right direction on where to get some info on the adk?
460's would rock, but need to find em for cheep!!

thanks for all the useful info guys!
-JIm

I think I know someone that could possibly have a pair, I bought my 391s from him awhile back and he sells tons of mics.  I asked about the 460s before I got my 480s and he had a pair back then, if you want me to inquire about them for you let me know be glad to help out

definetly!!! if you could find out that'd kick some arse!

-Jim

[InfiniteOhms]

forget about the TL....get this one
http://www.adkmic.com/ModS_Vienna.html
looks like j.p did one hell of a job!!!!

why would you choose the VE over the TL's? It does have a little heavier pad (-18db vs -10db) and "All NEW Upgraded Capsule and All NEW Upgraded Electronics" but those are upgraded from a lower grade mic. IMO it totaly bows to the awsome power of 4 polar patterns and matched pairs  

[iphone]

hey now..the vienna is a new mic.it's CLASS A!new capsule based on the akg c12.now jp has been modding neumann and akg's for years,so yes i do trust his work.
the hamburg mic will be a multi pattern mic by j.p .

[jlykos]

You may also want to check out the Microtech Gefell M300 microphones.  You can often find used pairs for $600.  Fixed cardioid caps, but you can't beat them for the price.

[Kindguy]

I'm not sure what shipping/custom charges are but you can get 480 bodies for 398.68 USD each at http://www.musicians-gear.com/

& the caps for 150 to 180 each.

[zhianosatch]

You may also want to check out the Microtech Gefell M300 microphones.  You can often find used pairs for $600.  Fixed cardioid caps, but you can't beat them for the price.

Those are tempting should I ever get into local paid recording gigs... as are the TLs...

[InfiniteOhms]

anders,
I see ... i was mistaken, i assumed (never a good thing) that since these where a mod of the A-51 S's (part of the "studio series") a improvement would bring them up the the level of say the TL's (part of the "audiophile" series).

Go team ADK

[plucks]

hey now..the vienna is a new mic.it's CLASS A!new capsule based on the akg c12.now jp has been modding neumann and akg's for years,so yes i do trust his work.
the hamburg mic will be a multi pattern mic by j.p .

Hey all
Just got pricing on the Vienna.  Shocking
If you are interested in some more info, please let me know


Phil

[iphone]

anders,
I see ... i was mistaken, i assumed (never a good thing) that since these where a mod of the A-51 S's (part of the "studio series") a improvement would bring them up the the level of say the TL's (part of the "audiophile" series).

Go team ADK

no prob bro.
the intoduction of vienna is a sign from adk,that they are getting away from the "off-the-shelf-chinese-mic-assembly product"
the quality of the vienna should be better than the tl.

[JP Gerard]

Hey there gang;

the vienna, right... well, where do I start!
The A51s was cool but I know it could be better. So I improved sensitivity, which improved the S/N ratio. I specified a brass edge-connected capsule (Austrian style; hence "Vienna") and improved the signal path. Higher sensitivity means lower headroom... so the pad went from 10 to 18 dBs.
The Hamburg... Basically the same mod but a 1" center electrode capsule (german style; hence "Hamburg") and a different internal EQ.
They compliment each other very well. Basically "Vienna" is bright , "Hamburg" is darker but has a more upfront midrange.
they're very quiet for acoustic sources (pad off) and can also take high SPLs (pad in) for amps & drums.
They're both transformer balanced.

The TL series have TransformerLess outputs (TL, get it?) and no "built in" EQ. Very different capsule, edge connected.

There will be revisions of the Vienna and Hamburg and LOTS more EXCITING stuff coming out next year. But we'l make the V and H as good as we possibly can. Next revision will be sometime next year; definitely components. Will there be an audible difference... I doubt it.

Next mic to receive my mod is the A51ST, and If we get enough requests, I'll change the fig-8 to super-cardioid. I think it will make the ST a lot more versatile. Maybe we'll have an ST"s" and an ST"h".

JP

[JP Gerard]

Right, to answer the question... I prefer Xfo balanced mics, so I'll grab the V or/and H before the TLs for most studio apps... I don't think one is necessarily better than the other... they're different for sure. I always find "typical" LD condensers too bright, when you hear the V and H you'll know what I'm talking about: they're very smooth on top. But the V is CERTAINLY NOT DULL!

JP

[JP Gerard]

Crap, where did my last post go???

Anyway, meant to say, the H is cardoid only, but the V and H will probably be offered in a Omni/Cardioid switchable version sometime.

Right now, the only Xfo bal multipattern ADK mic is the ST.

JP

[JP Gerard]

Hmmm, depends what you're looking for... I fyou're on a tight budget, I find the Oktava MK012 very very handy for that type of stuff: the cardioid cap is very wide and natural, and after a good mod, they're clean and have great top and bottom. A bit more "plastic" then my old 70's AKG 451s and Neumannn 84 but very cool, and very quiet. A pair w/omni caps are way cool for live recording if the acoustics are favourable.
Now, any LD mic using the capsule that we use in the TL series will have a rich high-mids and top end response: perfect for distance mic'ing; The TLs also have a rich bottom and it can be a bit much in the prox. zone, and of course it will pick up LF modes easily... But the TLs don't have the "attitude" of the V and H. Different mics for different apps...

JP

[JP Gerard]

<<Crap, where did my last post go???>>
<back to page two...... >

Nope, there was another one! About the pattern thing, so hopefully that's been clarified now.

JP

[iphone]

hi jp
i love mics with personality,i will definetaly check out the vienna and hamburg.

could you tell us about the SD mics you guys are planning to release?