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Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« on: November 29, 2011, 10:48:59 AM »
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/811335-REG/Telefunken_ELA_M_260_STEREO_FIELD_RE_ELA_M_260_Small.html

Any thoughts. Tubes, 3 sets of caps, field ready power supply. Use with AKG CK6_ caps.

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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2011, 11:08:18 AM »
pm Jesse Hurlburt.  He ran (or is still running) those mics.
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2011, 11:55:47 AM »
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2011, 12:32:53 PM »
pm Jesse Hurlburt.  He ran (or is still running) those mics.

There is a particular tape on the LMA.... I think it's Umphrey's McGee at House of Blues in Boston...  that is unbelievable.
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2011, 12:49:00 PM »
very nice mics, but dealing with tube power supplies at a remote venue is a PITA.

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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2011, 12:53:01 PM »
I designed the DC Power Supply for Telefunken -> Runs both mics (could handle up to 4 mics) at 7-24V DC input.

They do sound very nice and are definitely on par with the Schoeps m222 setup I have.

It's a pretty hard deal to beat at $2900 w/ 3 sets of caps.
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2011, 12:55:28 PM »
BTW - They where offering a loner set for a taper a few months back.

See:

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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2011, 12:56:30 PM »
very nice mics, but dealing with tube power supplies at a remote venue is a PITA.

The field recording set solves that problem. :)

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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2011, 12:58:06 PM »
BTW - They where offering a loner set for a taper a few months back.

Yes, still an option. But I have nothing on the horizon.

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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2011, 02:57:56 PM »
How are their capsules?  I wonder if they are close to Scheops, or if they are "modern" versions (ie., Chinese made).
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2011, 03:04:13 PM »
I am pretty sure the m260 caps are made by hand at their facility in South Windsor, CT.  Every time I have been there they have been making various capsules.
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2011, 03:05:48 PM »
pm Jesse Hurlburt.  He ran (or is still running) those mics.

There is a particular tape on the LMA.... I think it's Umphrey's McGee at House of Blues in Boston...  that is unbelievable.

I was going to suggest the MMJ tape he did, that was also fantastic.
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2011, 03:07:16 PM »
pm Jesse Hurlburt.  He ran (or is still running) those mics.

There is a particular tape on the LMA.... I think it's Umphrey's McGee at House of Blues in Boston...  that is unbelievable.

I was going to suggest the MMJ tape he did, that was also fantastic.

also Phish at SPAC 8-16-09, if it's still on etree

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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2011, 07:54:30 AM »
^I would like to hear this.

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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2011, 10:36:04 AM »

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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2011, 10:41:36 AM »
very nice mics, but dealing with tube power supplies at a remote venue is a PITA.

I don't really share this opinion, but I'm a big guy so extra gear is no big deal to me.  Besides the cost, the only thing tubes mics require is another box to carry in your bag and probably another battery, although the PSU could share a battery with another box if the battery is of sufficient capacity and voltage. 

It's been proven in a physics lab that tapers would go to any length, including swimming the English channel or walking the Sahara, in order to carry their own case of beer through the venue doors if allowed, so I've never been able to understand why tapers get their noses so disjointed about the extra weight of a little bit of extra gear or, say an SLA instead of a Li-ion.  :)

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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2011, 01:03:35 PM »
very nice mics, but dealing with tube power supplies at a remote venue is a PITA.

I don't really share this opinion, but I'm a big guy so extra gear is no big deal to me.  Besides the cost, the only thing tubes mics require is another box to carry in your bag and probably another battery, although the PSU could share a battery with another box if the battery is of sufficient capacity and voltage. 

It's been proven in a physics lab that tapers would go to any length, including swimming the English channel or walking the Sahara, in order to carry their own case of beer through the venue doors if allowed, so I've never been able to understand why tapers get their noses so disjointed about the extra weight of a little bit of extra gear or, say an SLA instead of a Li-ion.  :)

Less battery weight = more beer!  ;D :cheers:
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2011, 01:51:24 PM »
Mmm, drool-worthy mics.

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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2011, 03:55:52 PM »
Less battery weight = more beer!  ;D :cheers:

My batteries/bag act as ballast for my belly.  Since I add 'weight' to my belly during a show, the more stuff I have in my bag the safer I am to sail the sea of concert life.   :P

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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2011, 04:06:23 PM »
Less battery weight = more beer!  ;D :cheers:

My batteries/bag act as ballast for my belly.  Since I add 'weight' to my belly during a show, the more stuff I have in my bag the safer I am to sail the sea of concert life.   :P

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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2011, 04:13:00 PM »
Less battery weight = more beer!  ;D :cheers:

My batteries/bag act as ballast for my belly.  Since I add 'weight' to my belly during a show, the more stuff I have in my bag the safer I am to sail the sea of concert life.   :P

that. is. awesome.  ;D :lol:

very nice mics, but dealing with tube power supplies at a remote venue is a PITA.

I don't really share this opinion, but I'm a big guy so extra gear is no big deal to me.  Besides the cost, the only thing tubes mics require is another box to carry in your bag and probably another battery, although the PSU could share a battery with another box if the battery is of sufficient capacity and voltage. 

It's been proven in a physics lab that tapers would go to any length, including swimming the English channel or walking the Sahara, in order to carry their own case of beer through the venue doors if allowed, so I've never been able to understand why tapers get their noses so disjointed about the extra weight of a little bit of extra gear or, say an SLA instead of a Li-ion.  :)

I'm sadly with norman on this one (although you are right, many tapers will go to extraordinary lengths...); I really like a nice run-n-gun style setup. If there was a 722 made in half the size, I'd probably buy it.  :P
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2011, 07:36:37 PM »
I'm currently packing so much gear that I need 2 large bags, probably weighing close to 75 lbs. My full rig is usually 3 sets of mics (often including 414's), a dr-680, v3, a big stand, 2 small onstage stands, cables (including a few extras for that unexpected whatever), power supplies, and a bag full of adapters and other hardware. Super low profile...
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2011, 01:15:41 PM »
I spent most of last night listening to all of the ELA M260 samples that I could find and I have to say I am very impressed.
Pretty sure there will be a pair in my future  >:D
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2011, 04:30:58 PM »
I spent most of last night listening to all of the ELA M260 samples that I could find and I have to say I am very impressed.
Pretty sure there will be a pair in my future  >:D

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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2011, 09:05:39 AM »
I spent most of last night listening to all of the ELA M260 samples that I could find and I have to say I am very impressed.
Pretty sure there will be a pair in my future  >:D

The only one I found I thought the bass was very bloated and boomy. Can you provide some links to more samples?

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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #25 on: December 05, 2011, 09:37:55 AM »
The only one I found I thought the bass was very bloated and boomy. Can you provide some links to more samples?

Dig through these.... http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=telefunken%20AND%20collection%3Aetree

I think this one really shines.... http://www.archive.org/details/mmj2010-08-29.m260.flac16


There are also some down-loadable samples linked on a few threads over on gearslutz as well.

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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #26 on: December 05, 2011, 10:53:50 AM »
Thanks! The recordings with the hyper caps made by the Telefunken guy in the larger arenas are better than the show I sampled. Definitely not as boomy. I'm sure it would have been much better if it was recorded using hypers or maybe some roll off.

Edit to add: That Penns Landing recording is sick!
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #27 on: December 16, 2011, 08:37:54 PM »

I was going to suggest the MMJ tape he did, that was also fantastic.

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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #28 on: January 24, 2012, 10:49:14 AM »
Just picked up the field set at the Namm show on Sunday. will post pics later, cant wait to try them in the field.

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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2012, 01:46:01 PM »
Just picked up the field set at the Namm show on Sunday. will post pics later, cant wait to try them in the field.

Congrats on the new mics!!  :clapping:

Looking forward to hearing some samples and your opinions of these mics.
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2012, 02:39:11 PM »
Hers some crappy pics i took with my iPhone..Whats a killer setup for a great price. The power supply fits perfect into my sonic case.

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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #31 on: January 24, 2012, 06:31:32 PM »
Did you buy the set or is it a loaner?
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« Reply #32 on: January 24, 2012, 06:43:35 PM »
I bought it

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« Reply #33 on: January 24, 2012, 09:49:38 PM »
nice  :D
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« Reply #34 on: January 25, 2012, 06:50:40 PM »
That's some serious, get-a-hard-on gear porn.  Mmm-mm! >:D

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« Reply #35 on: January 25, 2012, 11:53:52 PM »
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #37 on: January 27, 2012, 11:11:50 AM »
Well, the maiden voyage was on Wednesday at Wilco 1-25-11 Wiltern Theater LA. So far very happy, ran the hyper caps as we were under the balcony a little, into the V3. Nice sound!! post a link soon.
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #38 on: January 27, 2012, 12:04:09 PM »
Would love to hear that! :)
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« Reply #39 on: January 28, 2012, 12:02:17 AM »
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #40 on: January 29, 2012, 03:50:12 AM »
Well, the maiden voyage was on Wednesday at Wilco 1-25-11 Wiltern Theater LA. So far very happy, ran the hyper caps as we were under the balcony a little, into the V3. Nice sound!! post a link soon.



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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #41 on: January 29, 2012, 03:23:04 PM »
thinking about selling my set... :-\

I hope you don't have too? 

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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #42 on: January 29, 2012, 03:36:28 PM »
FWIW - If you end up selling them I will support the PS for the new owner
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #43 on: January 29, 2012, 03:46:56 PM »
Is your PS smaller than the ginormous Telefunken PS?

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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #44 on: January 29, 2012, 03:51:22 PM »
pretty sure it's the same size..
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #45 on: January 29, 2012, 03:52:09 PM »
Jesse's is the same exact box that T'Funk is using - I could migrate Jesse's into the newer smaller box I am using now for cost of the parts (new board, XLR's, caps, box, mod cables, etc) -> about $125 (w/ newer XLR's)  -> or out $100 w/ older XLR's that are on the PS right now.
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #46 on: January 29, 2012, 04:58:39 PM »
Jesse's is the same exact box that T'Funk is using - I could migrate Jesse's into the newer smaller box I am using now for cost of the parts (new board, XLR's, caps, box, mod cables, etc) -> about $125 or so.

Interesting. It is a big box but it fits at the bottom of Soniccase pretty well. I kinda thought why would they use such a big box. It hardley weighs anything. If I decide to do it how small is the new box? Any pics? Thais.

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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #47 on: January 29, 2012, 06:05:38 PM »
Jesse's is the same exact box that T'Funk is using - I could migrate Jesse's into the newer smaller box I am using now for cost of the parts (new board, XLR's, caps, box, mod cables, etc) -> about $125 or so.

Interesting. It is a big box but it fits at the bottom of Soniccase pretty well. I kinda thought why would they use such a big box. It hardley weighs anything. If I decide to do it how small is the new box? Any pics? Thais.

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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #48 on: January 29, 2012, 06:46:50 PM »
Interesting. It is a big box but it fits at the bottom of Soniccase pretty well. I kinda thought why would they use such a big box. It hardley weighs anything. If I decide to do it how small is the new box? Any pics? Thais.

I can only offer this "upgrade" for Jesse's unit at this time as his was the prototype (I built it).

I maybe able to offer this to the regular t'funk m260s but I need to talk to them first.

I would also need to charge labor for other units.
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #49 on: January 29, 2012, 07:05:23 PM »
Ok thanks, i was thinking it might void my warranty or something if i did it..? i know Jason, i could ask him what he thinks as well.

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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #50 on: January 30, 2012, 12:31:27 PM »
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #51 on: February 05, 2012, 10:15:29 PM »
Ran again last night for Moe/Keller at Club Nokia in LA, under this balcony with the hypers.. This time with the ad2k+...... m260>V3>AD2k+. so far really nice sound!!. The cables that come with it i need to tame, i need to techflex them or something, any ideas? they are really nice heavy duty, they are thicker than normal XLR cables. right now they are just the 2 raw cables but would ilke to get them into one single loom somehow.
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #53 on: February 05, 2012, 10:33:56 PM »
Got it, ya i remember you sent me this Bean, looks like the only way to go!.

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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #54 on: July 22, 2012, 09:44:09 PM »
Any thoughts on these mics now that they have been in the field for a while....  Peace OOK
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #55 on: July 23, 2012, 12:00:27 AM »
Any thoughts on these mics now that they have been in the field for a while....  Peace OOK

I had Jesse's pair for a couple weeks and really liked them. They certainly gave my MG's a run for their money.

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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #56 on: July 23, 2012, 12:47:29 AM »
Any thoughts on these mics now that they have been in the field for a while....  Peace OOK

Hey, i sent you a reply to your pm. Here are some shows in here that i taped with the Telefunkens

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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #57 on: July 23, 2012, 07:03:45 PM »
Any thoughts on these mics now that they have been in the field for a while....  Peace OOK
Hey, i sent you a reply to your pm. Here are some shows in here that i taped with the Telefunkens
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Holy crap those sound good.....real good.  I have listened to your recordings verses others of the same show and I love yours hands down..
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #58 on: November 12, 2012, 06:49:51 AM »
Been running Jesse's tubes lately with an AKG twist   ;D

http://archive.org/details/dubapoc2012-11-05.ck1.m260.sxm2.ad2k.flac
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #59 on: November 12, 2012, 07:17:41 AM »
Been running Jesse's tubes lately with an AKG twist   ;D

http://archive.org/details/dubapoc2012-11-05.ck1.m260.sxm2.ad2k.flac

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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #60 on: November 12, 2012, 11:23:40 AM »
Been running Jesse's tubes lately with an AKG twist   ;D

http://archive.org/details/dubapoc2012-11-05.ck1.m260.sxm2.ad2k.flac

Check out Disc 2 - Track 3 :o

Oh my, that is some serious velvet sounding shit!  The seperation and creamy overtones are amazing. You nailed it!  God I love the sound of these mics!   OOK
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #61 on: November 12, 2012, 11:48:17 AM »

Oh my, that is some serious velvet sounding shit!  The seperation and creamy overtones are amazing. You nailed it!  God I love the sound of these mics WITH AKG CK1!   OOK

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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #62 on: November 12, 2012, 12:08:18 PM »
Been running Jesse's tubes lately with an AKG twist   ;D

http://archive.org/details/dubapoc2012-11-05.ck1.m260.sxm2.ad2k.flac

Check out Disc 2 - Track 3 :o



Been running Jesse's tubes lately with an AKG twist   ;D

http://archive.org/details/dubapoc2012-11-05.ck1.m260.sxm2.ad2k.flac

Check out Disc 2 - Track 3 :o



Oh my, that is some serious velvet sounding shit!  The seperation and creamy overtones are amazing. You nailed it!  God I love the sound of these mics!   OOK

I thought you were going to pick up a pair OOK.... ;D



Nice pull Ted, sounds great, i love these telefunkens! I see you ran with the Sax and AD2k. Thats all i have ever run with these mics. Actually one time with a V3 and it soundsed killer as well.. I also have a Portico id like to try with these mics.

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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #63 on: November 12, 2012, 12:40:03 PM »
Nice pull Ted, sounds great, i love these telefunkens! I see you ran with the Sax and AD2k. Thats all i have ever run with these mics. Actually one time with a V3 and it soundsed killer as well.. I also have a Portico id like to try with these mics.

Thanks, I loving them also!  Already made a custom 15' Milspec 7pin cable and some chopped interconnects between the sax and power supply.
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #64 on: November 12, 2012, 01:29:46 PM »
Nice pull Ted, sounds great, i love these telefunkens! I see you ran with the Sax and AD2k. Thats all i have ever run with these mics. Actually one time with a V3 and it soundsed killer as well.. I also have a Portico id like to try with these mics.

Thanks, I loving them also!  Already made a custom 15' Milspec 7pin cable and some chopped interconnects between the sax and power supply.


Very cool. Ya those cables are kinda bulky. Got a pic of the new ones you made? 

I had Alan at telefunken shrink wrap mine together and it made a huge difference out in the field.

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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #65 on: November 12, 2012, 02:12:37 PM »
I thought you were going to pick up a pair OOK.... ;D

It will happen. I move slowly... This just reinforces my desire to get a pair.   :P
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #66 on: November 13, 2012, 11:51:39 AM »
Got a pic of the new ones you made? 

Here are some crappy cellphone shots of the 15 foot cable.  I just started work on a 40 footer that is snaked.
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #67 on: November 13, 2012, 01:17:19 PM »
As usual, nice work Ted!
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #68 on: November 13, 2012, 01:46:03 PM »

Here are some crappy cellphone shots of the 15 foot cable.  I just started work on a 40 footer that is snaked.
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Sweet Ted, nice!  is there anyway to make those cables thinner?  i dont think so because of the 7 pin cable correct?

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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #69 on: November 13, 2012, 02:03:02 PM »
Not until I find a 6 conductor milspec cable. There could be some thinner standard mic cable out there.  I did the same thing when I bulit a 8pin cable for my c422.  I think I used 2 3-condutor and 1 2-conductor to get the 8 conductors needed.
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #70 on: November 13, 2012, 02:12:01 PM »
Not until I find a 6 conductor milspec cable. There could be some thinner standard mic cable out there.  I did the same thing when I bulit a 8pin cable for my c422.  I think I used 2 3-condutor and 1 2-conductor to get the 8 conductors needed.

Got it. what i have works fine, but it would be cool to have the thinner milspec cable forsure. let me know if you ever find it.

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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #71 on: November 30, 2012, 04:59:59 AM »
tempted to get a pair of these myself  :P
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #72 on: November 30, 2012, 08:33:10 AM »
You only need 4 conductor plus shield - I use mogami mini quad for my m260's and it works fine

The m260 only needs five conductors:
1. signal -
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3. +120v
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #73 on: November 30, 2012, 09:10:54 AM »
This is what Ryan at Telefunken set me.  Five conductors but not the same pin assignment as you listed (unless you were listing the number of conductors and not there corresponding pin assignment).


Hello,

Here's the pinout information as we discussed on the phone for the ELA M 260 cable.

ELA M 260 Pinout:

1.   B+ Voltage (120V)
2.   Heater Voltage (6.0V) - use heavier conductor if available
3.   No Contact in mic - a conductor is still run, but can be left out if one less conductor is available
4.   No Contact in mic - a conductor is still run, but can be left out if one less conductor is available
5.   (+) Audio
6.   (-) Audio
7.   Circuit Ground - use heavier conductor if available
Shield.  Cable Shielding

In the PSU, the circuit ground is tied to the cable shielding.

This pinout is sent pin-to-pin from PSU to the mic, therefore is the same pin assignments coming out of the PSU as is coming into the mic.

Please let me know if you have any questions.  Glad to hear you are enjoying the 260's!

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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #74 on: December 01, 2012, 05:29:25 PM »
I was not reference pin assignments - good add
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #75 on: December 05, 2012, 11:52:52 AM »
Heres my Telefunken rig
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #76 on: December 05, 2012, 12:03:03 PM »
Heres my Telefunken rig

That's a lot of gear for two channels, how's your back?
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #77 on: December 05, 2012, 12:52:11 PM »
Heres my Telefunken rig

That's a lot of gear for two channels, how's your back?

hehe...it posted two times for some reason, removed my "2nd" rig.

tgakidis How do you like the Sax>Ad2k sound with the Telefunkens? im really digging it!

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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #78 on: December 05, 2012, 01:08:06 PM »
Heres my Telefunken rig

What's on the top right?

Nice rig ;)
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #79 on: December 05, 2012, 01:26:52 PM »
Heres my Telefunken rig

What's on the top right?

Nice rig ;)

Marantz 661

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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #80 on: December 05, 2012, 01:28:12 PM »
Heres my Telefunken rig

What's on the top right?

Nice rig ;)

Marantz 661

I love the sax > ad2k combo with the funk!

Nice, thanks Ted!
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #81 on: March 13, 2015, 10:27:21 AM »
Can anyone who purchased a pair recently say if they have slimmed down the PS enclosure yet?  If they haven't I am going to speak with Alan and explain this needs to happen.
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #82 on: March 13, 2015, 12:10:57 PM »
Can anyone who purchased a pair recently say if they have slimmed down the PS enclosure yet?  If they haven't I am going to speak with Alan and explain this needs to happen.

When I designed the PS I designed it as a prototype - I chose the enclosure (which is what they are using) based on the need 4 5 XLR's and for more room in case needed - I did not expect them to use that enclosure in the final product

After the 2 proto's I built (one for you Jesse and one for T'Funk) I moved to the smaller hammond 1455 series ditched the two mic XLR's infavor of locking DIN connectors and came up with the version seen here below

There is no real reason they couldn't move to this or a similar enclosure

I personally have a quad channel version running off one of these enclosures (1 pair of m260's and 1 pair of m221's)
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #83 on: March 13, 2015, 12:22:36 PM »
Thanks, Richard.

ard you ok with me showing this enclosure to t-funk and suggesting it? I think this field set gains a lot the smaller the PS.

I'd still like to move mine to a smaller box, but I've been sidetracked with other things.

Thoughts?
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #84 on: March 13, 2015, 12:31:29 PM »
you can talk to them - I haven't been in contact for a few years and currently my business is closed (although I am still looking to build a few more PS's for people - one for a um69, one for a pair of AKC c61's and one for a pair of u67's)
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #85 on: March 13, 2015, 12:36:30 PM »
Cool, the community will appreciate it I think if we can slim this thing down.  :)

I found a bunch of 1455 models when I did a google search; do you know what the dimensions are of the one you selected?  Would you be so kind to elaborate on the parts you used? Is there a DIN to 7 pin adapter needed?

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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #86 on: March 13, 2015, 12:55:47 PM »
The like most mono tube mics, the m260 only needs 5 conductors to run

They may want to choose a 5 or 7 pin din instead of the ac701 "standard" locking 6 pin as shown in the picture

The enclosure I use is:
http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=1455P1601BKvirtualkey54600000virtualkey546-1455P1601BK

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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #87 on: March 13, 2015, 01:02:06 PM »
pm Jesse Hurlburt.  He ran (or is still running) those mics.

There is a particular tape on the LMA.... I think it's Umphrey's McGee at House of Blues in Boston...  that is unbelievable.

I was going to suggest the MMJ tape he did, that was also fantastic.

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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #88 on: March 13, 2015, 01:11:48 PM »
Thanks, Richard! 

So is the ac701 the female input on the box? What would you need on the male mic cable end to connect in to that input?  Sorry, not at all familiar with that connector.

Thanks for helping!  ;D
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #89 on: March 13, 2015, 01:26:28 PM »
If you want pn's etc shoot me a PM with your email and I will send you a list of parts for all the connectors
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #90 on: March 15, 2015, 10:05:42 AM »
Ted & I were just talking about this a few weeks ago. The power supply looks like it could be much smaller. While it's not that big now it looks like it would easily fit into a smaller encloser like Richard did. The current size works in my bag but if Telefunken did it make it smaller I bet they'd get more traction out on the street.

While we are on the power supply discussion, mine came with a giant 16v battery, Ted runs his off of a 9v Tekeon, does the power supply work off any voltage from 9v to 16v? I'm thinking of going with a smaller battery to save some weight.
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #91 on: March 15, 2015, 10:28:26 AM »
The ps will run at any voltage between 8-24v
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 Stereo Set
« Reply #92 on: June 10, 2015, 09:33:51 AM »
The ps will run at any voltage between 8-24v

I picked up one of the Tekkeon 3300's & wondering how long it will power the PS?
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