Folks:
It is not possible to log in to bt.etree at the moment. The reason is that, a few weeks ago, someone claimed to have hacked into the etree.org sites. After investigating, we decided to change the encryption on the logins and to tighten up the code protecting the database. Bt.etree hasn't implemented the new system yet. Until they do, all logins will fail. (Logging in to db.etree works fine.)
If you've noticed that no one responds to e-mails to server@etree, that's b/c the guys who maintain bt.etree basically don't.
As for Mr. Stewart's rant, that's another story.
Last night, he e-mailed the db.etree admin address with this:
"HELP!!! LOGIN FAILED!!!!!!"
Please help!!! I cannot log in!!! I have been logged on etree forever but now, not only does it not receive my password/username but when I go to "forgot password" it says my email address DOES NOT EXIST!! Please help, urgent!!!
I do have godlike powers, but if you don't tell me your username I don't know who you are. It also helps to identify the website you're talking about. Anyway, db.etree provides actual support, so I went into the database and looked up every account with his e-mail address associated with it. And then I wrote back:
Colby:
There are at least three accounts with your e-mail address at db.etree: nitro22888, supercurio and cmstewart.
When you signed up, you didn't put in a valid e-mail address even once. So, db.etree.org does not have your e-mail address.
Are any of those accounts real? Which one are you trying to log into. Can we get rid of the one you created yesterday?
This was his response:
I have had the same account on db.etree for over a year, and access it daily. When your site said "login failed" about 700 times I "wondered" if I accidentally used a different name without realizing it and tried EVERYTHING I could think of. Are they real?? Wtf are you trying to accuse me of. I'm posting this email thread on the taperssection tonight so go ahead and accuse me of scamming you or something. I have always had Nitro22888 as my username. And to my knowledge by.etree never asked me for an email address except on the "forgot password" page. So you tell me what to do, and I'll do it. You FAQ and wiki pages are all down, so when there's any problem there's zero support, especially for relatively new members like myself. I'm only to share music, and that is all. Do what you want though.
I'm not going to explain everything that's wrong with that.
I will remind everyone that etree.org is run by volunteers; that db.etree and bt.etree are run by different people; that the "Server Team" is basically AWOL which is why bt.etree hasn't changed in 15 years and why no one has fixed the login system over there for several days; and that, if you ask for help, please ask in an intelligent way.
Happy taping.
--mhg
I was going through this and I saw this message. This is a bit concerning to me. Is it really necessary to post the emails this guy wrote over to etree? There are better ways you could have approached this. Volunteer or not, I don't see the reason why we should all know exactly what he said in emails and get called out for it. Just because this is a thread about problems with etree doesn't mean that should be an excuse to put someone's messages here that were directed to the etree staff and not to this community.
I would personally be livid if someone posted my stuff here like that.
Someone said part of the problem with etree is that etree is ran volunteers who have jobs, kids, and other things like that. Looks to me like part of the problem here it is also that etree is also ran by some immature people who act like kids too.
Sorry to say but after reading all this, my trust in etree is even lower since it seems that some people can't keep communications internal with other users. Maybe there should be a disclaimer on the user agreement that all emails to the admins are subject to be posted to other places in some form outside of etree.