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The case for a super-small, basic high quality recorder
« on: January 13, 2019, 05:54:40 PM »
In the age of wanding and small bags only, it’s surprising that there’s not really anything *quite* like that in the market.
I know ‘stralth’ isn’t a consideration for manufacturers, but size and features usually are.

If you could just have the absolute basic features than contribute to a high quality recording, what would they be?

For me the ideal small recorder needs to go back to minidisc recorder size, no built-in microphones, a 3.5 Stereo line-in, a basic screen (monitor, options etc...), dial/buttons allowing for level adjustment, stop/start rec., a ‘hold’ feature, and a slot for a micro SD card for storage.

Maybe surprisingly, nothing like this really exists does it?

If you just had the basics like this, how small and thin could you go? Smaller than a iPhone?
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Re: The case for a super-small, basic high quality recorder
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2019, 06:14:17 PM »
Not exactly tiny, but Zoom F1 is pretty small.It also has *locking* 3.5mm inputs and outputs.Plug in power.
The disadvantage is the mic preamp is pretty noisy, compared to Sony units.
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Re: The case for a super-small, basic high quality recorder
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2019, 06:48:16 PM »
Would an iOS device, CCK and a thumb drive sized USB audio interface be suitable?
Or lightning to ADC directly?
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Re: The case for a super-small, basic high quality recorder
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2019, 12:22:26 AM »
Lectrosonics SPDR

https://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=187843.45

That’s pretty close to what I’m thinking. The lack of a 3.5 line in (and price) probably kills it a bit.
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Re: The case for a super-small, basic high quality recorder
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2019, 12:47:20 AM »
The MixPre3 is already astonishingly small, and very affordable.

And I wouldn't want to be giving up those XLR inputs.

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Re: The case for a super-small, basic high quality recorder
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2019, 01:11:50 AM »
You’d never get the MixPre3 into any venue in Europe - everything is detectors, pat downs, wands and equipment being examined now. Even in an open taping situation you’d have security questioning what it is.

You’d need something smaller.
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Re: The case for a super-small, basic high quality recorder
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2019, 01:31:40 AM »
You’d never get the MixPre3 into any venue in Europe - everything is detectors, pat downs, wands and equipment being examined now. Even in an open taping situation you’d have security questioning what it is.

You’d need something smaller.

Can't confirm this. The regular reaction when open taping with a mixpre-6 used to be:
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Re: The case for a super-small, basic high quality recorder
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2019, 01:52:29 AM »
Then you really need stealth.
A large storage iPhone with Sennheiser Ambeo headphones/mics but no need to have them in ear.
And then simply run the app of choice for recording or streaming.

Can’t get any more casual then that.

You’d never get the MixPre3 into any venue in Europe - everything is detectors, pat downs, wands and equipment being examined now. Even in an open taping situation you’d have security questioning what it is.

You’d need something smaller.


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Re: The case for a super-small, basic high quality recorder
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2019, 02:31:33 AM »
Lectrosonics SPDR

https://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=187843.45

That’s pretty close to what I’m thinking. The lack of a 3.5 line in (and price) probably kills it a bit.

easy with a short adapter cable. and price.. yeah, well, its pro gear.
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Re: The case for a super-small, basic high quality recorder
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2019, 02:33:40 AM »
Then you really need stealth.
A large storage iPhone with Sennheiser Ambeo headphones/mics but no need to have them in ear.
And then simply run the app of choice for recording or streaming.

Can’t get any more casual then that.

4061s in croakies with a d:vice is way more low pro than the ambeos unless youre hacking them apart to get to the capsules. sounds better as well.
32GB iphone SEs can be had for under $100
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Re: The case for a super-small, basic high quality recorder
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2019, 02:58:09 AM »
Thats indeed true.
But at a bit higher cost as well.


Then you really need stealth.
A large storage iPhone with Sennheiser Ambeo headphones/mics but no need to have them in ear.
And then simply run the app of choice for recording or streaming.

Can’t get any more casual then that.

4061s in croakies with a d:vice is way more low pro than the ambeos unless youre hacking them apart to get to the capsules. sounds better as well.
32GB iphone SEs can be had for under $100

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Re: The case for a super-small, basic high quality recorder
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2019, 01:51:15 PM »
https://www.sonosax.ch/product/minir82/

That looks awesome but sooooo expensive!!!


It's also getting pretty old nowadays - I wonder if Sonosax will ever update it based on the R4+
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