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Life In Rewind:
I have a sound gig coming up - a jazz trio, and was thinking I'm only going to need minimal micing on the drum kit. (small kit)

Like kick - and one overhead?

Does that sound too sparse?

I have AUDIX M1280s and Avnatone CK-1s...

Anyone have an opinion on these as overheads?

IowaClint:
I use Berliner CM 33's, AKG 460's, and Aston Spirits for overheads.  I would say if you have a large diaphragm mic that is the one I would use, otherwise use the small condensers and pan them and blend with a kick mic like a beta 52 or Audix D6. 

BonoBeats:
Two mics should be fine. Ran two or three mic setups for my band quite a few times, in smaller or mid sized rooms.

For the kick- are you using a dedicated kick drum mic (Beta52, etc), or more of an all purpose mic?  My preference is to run a mic (usually LDC but doesn't matter) about a foot or two in front of the kick, almost even with the top of the bass drum hoop. You'll get some snare and toms this way. It's not like you're looking for the kick to stand out in a jazz setting, the way you would for a rock gig...

As for the overhead, I'd usually set up over the drummer's right shoulder, a foot or two over head height. My overhead choice is typically based on the drum tuning and cymbals- if the cymbals are bright, I use a mic with a more flat response; if they're vintage and dark, I sometimes want a mic with a little more high end extension. That said, you'll be fine with either.

Life In Rewind:

--- Quote from: IowaClint on December 13, 2016, 02:20:45 PM ---I use Berliner CM 33's, AKG 460's, and Aston Spirits for overheads.  I would say if you have a large diaphragm mic that is the one I would use, otherwise use the small condensers and pan them and blend with a kick mic like a beta 52 or Audix D6.

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Thanks - Im trying to pick from mics I own - I do have a pair of APEX 435s LDCs...

Life In Rewind:

--- Quote from: BonoBeats on December 13, 2016, 03:30:06 PM ---Two mics should be fine. Ran two or three mic setups for my band quite a few times, in smaller or mid sized rooms.

For the kick- are you using a dedicated kick drum mic (Beta52, etc), or more of an all purpose mic?  My preference is to run a mic (usually LDC but doesn't matter) about a foot in front of the kick, almost even with the top of the bass drum hoop. You'll get some snare and toms this way. It's not like you're looking for the kick to stand out in a jazz setting, the way you would for a rock gig...

As for the overhead, I'd usually set up over the drummer's right shoulder, a foot or two over head height. My overhead choice is typically based on the drum tuning and cymbals- if the cymbals are bright, I use a mic with a more flat response; if they're vintage and dark, I sometimes want a mic with a little more high end extension. That said, you'll be fine with either.

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Ahh - I do like that kick idea with the LDC...I have a pair of APEX 435s LDCs - not the best, but not terrible either...might give that shot.

I have one of the SHURE kick mics at work I can use - but I like this idea better.

Its piano, standup bass and drums...

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