Topic: Aerco MP-2 Information > $750 new & 1 Month Lead Time

[it-goes-to-eleven]

i would say just the opposite (not as a pre choice but the availability) -
the aerco is a great pre but you can still get one custom made for the price a used V2 goes for if/when they come available

But isn't the v2 just a cheaper v3?  And v3's aren't at all scarce. I don't recall any cases where the v2 was demonstrated to be any better than the v3. And on paper the v3's gain based trim design is superior to the v2's attenuation.

There is only one person who makes the aerco so it is subject to no longer being available at any time... It is the only compact transformer pre being made.

[terrapinj]

i would say just the opposite (not as a pre choice but the availability) -
the aerco is a great pre but you can still get one custom made for the price a used V2 goes for if/when they come available

But isn't the v2 just a cheaper v3?  And v3's aren't at all scarce. I don't recall any cases where the v2 was demonstrated to be any better than the v3. And on paper the v3's gain based trim design is superior to the v2's attenuation.

There is only one person who makes the aerco so it is subject to no longer being available at any time... It is the only compact transformer pre being made.

perhaps, but it seems the V2s are much more of a commodity around these parts when they go on sale - very possibly due to their reputation and simply being more well known -- then again you don't see many used aercos either

[OFOTD]

i would say just the opposite (not as a pre choice but the availability) -
the aerco is a great pre but you can still get one custom made for the price a used V2 goes for if/when they come available

But isn't the v2 just a cheaper v3?  And v3's aren't at all scarce. I don't recall any cases where the v2 was demonstrated to be any better than the v3. And on paper the v3's gain based trim design is superior to the v2's attenuation.

There is only one person who makes the aerco so it is subject to no longer being available at any time... It is the only compact transformer pre being made.

perhaps, but it seems the V2s are much more of a commodity around these parts when they go on sale - very possibly due to their reputation and simply being more well known -- then again you don't see many used aercos either

True.  I think the V2 has a little bit of mythical status to it as well.    I wonder how many Aerco's are truly out there?  By the recent slew of V2's on ebay and other forums for sale I think alot more than I thought are used in studios and not just by tapers.

[landshark]

It is the only compact transformer pre being made.

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Don't forget the SD MixPre....

[it-goes-to-eleven]

Don't forget the SD MixPre....

Forgot about that one..

[Kindguy]

i would say just the opposite (not as a pre choice but the availability) -
the aerco is a great pre but you can still get one custom made for the price a used V2 goes for if/when they come available

But isn't the v2 just a cheaper v3?  And v3's aren't at all scarce. I don't recall any cases where the v2 was demonstrated to be any better than the v3. And on paper the v3's gain based trim design is superior to the v2's attenuation.

There is only one person who makes the aerco so it is subject to no longer being available at any time... It is the only compact transformer pre being made.

perhaps, but it seems the V2s are much more of a commodity around these parts when they go on sale - very possibly due to their reputation and simply being more well known -- then again you don't see many used aercos either

True.  I think the V2 has a little bit of mythical status to it as well.    I wonder how many Aerco's are truly out there?  By the recent slew of V2's on ebay and other forums for sale I think alot more than I thought are used in studios and not just by tapers.

I've found A bunch of nature recorders use Aerco's & the SD mp-2.

[spyder9]

i would say just the opposite (not as a pre choice but the availability) -
the aerco is a great pre but you can still get one custom made for the price a used V2 goes for if/when they come available

But isn't the v2 just a cheaper v3?  And v3's aren't at all scarce. I don't recall any cases where the v2 was demonstrated to be any better than the v3. And on paper the v3's gain based trim design is superior to the v2's attenuation.

There is only one person who makes the aerco so it is subject to no longer being available at any time... It is the only compact transformer pre being made.

perhaps, but it seems the V2s are much more of a commodity around these parts when they go on sale - very possibly due to their reputation and simply being more well known -- then again you don't see many used aercos either

Aerco smokes the V2 and V3.  Been proven in comps.  End of story.  I'm stunned more folks haven't ordered an Aerco since those comps.  They are built like a brick-sh*thouse and sounds fantastic.  I'll never get rid of mine.   

[bgalizio]

i would say just the opposite (not as a pre choice but the availability) -
the aerco is a great pre but you can still get one custom made for the price a used V2 goes for if/when they come available

But isn't the v2 just a cheaper v3?  And v3's aren't at all scarce. I don't recall any cases where the v2 was demonstrated to be any better than the v3. And on paper the v3's gain based trim design is superior to the v2's attenuation.

There is only one person who makes the aerco so it is subject to no longer being available at any time... It is the only compact transformer pre being made.

perhaps, but it seems the V2s are much more of a commodity around these parts when they go on sale - very possibly due to their reputation and simply being more well known -- then again you don't see many used aercos either

Aerco smokes the V2 and V3.  Been proven in comps.  End of story.  I'm stunned more folks haven't ordered an Aerco since those comps.  They are built like a brick-sh*thouse and sounds fantastic.  I'll never get rid of mine.   

And after listening to some more shows recorded with each, I think I'm sticking with the AERCO. The V3 price bottoming just had me gassing for the pretty lights, I guess.

Now I just need Jerry to finish it!

[sanaka]

I had a couple thoughts, for which I apologize if they were already addressed here and I missed it.

I agree with Mr. Chamkis on using rotary switches for stepped gain. To me the coarse gain steps are not a big deal versus the better tracking and reliability over pots. I'm comfortable with post processing, so with a reasonably quiet recording signal chain, normalizing to make up for 4 or 5 dB of "wasted" headroom is no biggie.

I also like the "stereo gain + balance" configuration, since a portable, two channel mic pre is usually going to be about stereo.   Dialing in an offset during recording could be handy for several reasons, as discussed earlier in this thread. But it seems, for the same reasons that separate gain switches are not so useful, that the offset is not normally going to be huge. And a solid 0 position is very important.

So how about making the balance stepped as well? It seems you could use the same 6 position rotary switch used for the stepped gain. Using 5 of its positions, you could adjust the left/right difference to two different levels, say 3dB or 6dB, with a nice solid 0 position in the middle.

A 7 position switch would give 3 levels, and if that same switch were also used for gain could give 0-60dB instead of 0-50 (or whatever).

I wonder how soon Mr. Chamkis will wish we never heard of him?

Peace,
Sanaka

[bgalizio]

The MP-2 is on its way Will be here on Friday, and Friday night I'll take it for a spin.

[Nick's Picks]

nice!

[bgalizio]

nice!

I hope FedEx will leave it with my standard "please leave the package, signed and dated by me here" note. Should have had it shipped to work... I'd have it rerouted, but that's just asking for trouble.

Pics should be in order sometime this weekend. Not sure if anyone else has the phantom on/off switch.

[cmoorevt]

Congrats.  I really need to pick one of these up at some point.  It looks like Jerry has added some new pictures to his site (at least new since the last time I visited).  Sweet looking device.

http://www.aerco.net/mp2photos.html

[Nick's Picks]

I notice on his site that he says he "entertains custom electronic projects"...
perhaps a new AKG project helper ?

[audBall]

I notice on his site that he says he "entertains custom electronic projects"...
perhaps a new AKG project helper ?

Oh, it's fun the let the mind wander a bit...

An Aerco/JKLabs-esque box customer tailored for the CKx caps.  Actives + yummy transformer goodness...mmm.