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Gear / Technical Help => Microphones & Setup => Topic started by: Kevin on July 02, 2003, 01:14:05 AM
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I currently have the AKG 391's>DMIC-20 and am looking to upgrade. I have had my eye on the V3 and was wondering what mics what go well with this unit also if anyone has ever used the V3 with the 391's? and last what to add to the V3? Or any suggestions on what you like (other mics and pre's; yes i understand its what i like im just looking for pointers)
thanks
kevin
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I've liked the neumann>v3 tapes (incidentally, one of the few neumann combos I can tolerate).
B&K/DPA>V3 smokes in the right spot as well, but is hugely unforgiving I hear...
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i don't agree about the "hugely unforgiving" part
i've run 4022 > v3 in horrible rooms and it sounded fine...
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I would argue that you upgrade your mics before you make the upgrade to the V3/minime route. As a current user of the 391(3)'s, I can say that you would probably see minimal benefit from upgrading to the V3 as you would to upgrade your mics first.
Just my .02.
Nick
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I'd have to agree with Nick here. If you like the 391s, you may wanna look into the 480s. I know Bean here runs the 480>dmic combo, you may wanna ask to hear some of his tapes.
You will get more of a change in sound by changing mics moreso than pre/ad first.
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I agree also, if you h ave $1500 to blow on a V3, sell your mics and throw the money at new mics, that will change your sound way more and ends up being a much better investment.
But for the record, I love the way schoeps sound with the V3 :coolguy:
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Another agreed - sell the mics, first put the money towards mics. I, too, love the Schoeps > V3 combo.
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thanks for the advice im probably going to get new mics in the next 2 weeks (thinking the 480's, skm140, or km184's). But if anyone knows where i can download samples of these mics or mics in the same class please let me know, I want to make sure I choose the ones that I like the most.
thanks for the help
kevin
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If you want to hear the 481's with a v3 i suggest listening to some of Eric Naylor's DMB... :jawdrop: They are amazing. If you want to download a few shns from one of his shows let me know.
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Not sure if any of 'em are still there, but I uploaded a few SKM140 > V3 shows to Jonny's server.
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You can find samples of all of these combo's on the archive. Lee, what don't you like about neumann's and other combo'?
Daryan
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I'd have to agree with Nick here. If you like the 391s, you may wanna look into the 480s. I know Bean here runs the 480>dmic combo, you may wanna ask to hear some of his tapes.
You will get more of a change in sound by changing mics moreso than pre/ad first.
gladly toss ya some 480's>dmic-20 tapes.....they are a lot less muddy in the low w/ this setup..i HIGHLY recomend getting those 480's and then saving while using a dmic-20 and getting a v3...... ;)
bean
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archive will have all that...... 8)
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You can find samples of all of these combo's on the archive. Lee, what don't you like about neumann's and other combo'?
Daryan
TO MY EARS, the neumann's have a little too much high end presence and are a chubby in the low end (that is, not fat, but lacking definition). For some reason, I can tolerate them with the V3; I think that the neumanns are colored enough and anything else in the chain just throws the balance outta whack. Again, that's TO MY EARS, YMMV.
-Lee
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Yeah, I see what you are saying. My best guess is you like a very transparent mic since you run/ran the 4022's, and if so, the neumann's arent the ones. What do you think about gefell tapes?
Daryan
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to be honest, I can't say that I've heard a single geffel tape
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scratch that... I have one on my list, but I've only listened to snippets of it...
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I have pulled some amazing tapes with 4022s>v3. Phish vegas, sts9,WSP 6-28-03.
Granted I was also using a Benchmark 2402 for the 24/96 recordings, the DAT tapes are phenom.
I do agree with what has been said about investing in new mics first. It's definitely the best way to improve the sonic qualities.
Phil
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That 03 Red rocks is a great tape- almost too clear.
You can definately hear that CO wind messing with the highs! Sounds like I'm right there!
Anyone have Sunday night out yet?
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i think lee is not sure what he likes yet
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i think lee is not sure what he likes yet
No shame in being a hardened gear slut!
Yall know what I'm talking about...
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oh there is nothing wrong with that
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I have pulled some amazing tapes with 4022s>v3.....WSP 6-28-03.
I was wondering what type of wind screens you used for this show?
Thanks,
Kevin
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speaking of windscreens, I just ran my 4022's with the DPA screens (thick ones UA0896) at the "dead" last weekend & still had wind problems??? To be honest I don't plan on listening to the tapes anyway but I have used these screens & AKG's at Red Rocks before with out a problem?? WTF is up with that?
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I used the shure windscreens at the rocks last weekend and they work great.
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i personaly love the skm184's with the v3. very transparent amp and really clear mics, both on high's and low's. oh well, that's why we all have different rigs. definitely get the mics before upgrading the pre.
i too have started using the shures, and telluride 2 weeks ago proved it; the king of wind during the afternoons and no problems on the tapes.
jr
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D has pulled some DANK tapes w/ geffels......listening to 5-24-03 moe and is SICK..... ;) 8)