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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder for DSLR cameras
« Reply #195 on: December 13, 2014, 08:14:50 AM »
But A and B sound very, very close to me.

Same here, for my ears and playback they are too close to prefer one over the other. Appreciate the comp  :D

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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder for DSLR cameras
« Reply #196 on: December 16, 2014, 12:10:46 PM »
Well since it looks as if no one else wants to play...Sample A was the DR-70D.
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder for DSLR cameras
« Reply #197 on: December 16, 2014, 04:42:04 PM »
With the tinybox in the chain in both samples, you'd sort of expect them to be similar. 

The next obvious test would be to run the same mics straight in to the M10 and the 70d for comparison.  I suppose they would have to be on the 1/8 stereo input since the m10 has no XLR connections.  But I'm not sure whether the preamp is the same on the 1/8 stereo input as on the XLRs on the 70d. 

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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder for DSLR cameras
« Reply #198 on: December 16, 2014, 08:13:13 PM »
With the tinybox in the chain in both samples, you'd sort of expect them to be similar. 

The next obvious test would be to run the same mics straight in to the M10 and the 70d for comparison.  I suppose they would have to be on the 1/8 stereo input since the m10 has no XLR connections.  But I'm not sure whether the preamp is the same on the 1/8 stereo input as on the XLRs on the 70d.

Same pres on the 1/8" and XLR on the DR-70D.

How would I provide phantom power to the mics without running through some sort of preamp, which would color the sound depending on the pre, correct?
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder for DSLR cameras
« Reply #199 on: December 16, 2014, 09:12:32 PM »
The mics would have to be able to run off plug in power provided by the m10 or the 70d. 

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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder for DSLR cameras
« Reply #200 on: December 16, 2014, 09:16:24 PM »
I think it would make more sense to compare the DR-70D preamps against the FP24 as I was saying earlier.  Connect the FP24 to the Tascam via the 1/8" input like you would when using your M10.  Use the slate tone to calibrate the 1/8" input to -20 and then leave it alone, so you're not needlessly adding any more gain (and noise) on the Tascam.  Then of course run one pair of mics through the FP24, and the other pair straight into the DR-70D.  Try and set gains as close as you can, but you can always level-match in post later.  If you record something soft and intimate needing a good deal of gain, all the better.  A loud show could be useful to show what the pres can handle for levels, but it's not going to tell you much about the self noise.

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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder for DSLR cameras
« Reply #201 on: December 18, 2014, 08:28:24 PM »
Found some youtube videos, of audio tests with a beyerdynamic shotgun and internal mics of the tascam dr-70d.
http://youtu.be/kvtqAIPcgdk
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder for DSLR cameras
« Reply #202 on: December 20, 2014, 10:04:40 AM »
Ok  - last night I got to get out in front of a louder rock band at a local brewery. Considerably closer, 15 feet from band, same Audix M1280s

I still had my mic levels set to "high" from my previous gig with the country band in a theatre.

Last night - I had to stop during the first song and set my levels back to "low" - and all was well.(note  - you can't access the menu while recording.)

On high - levels were either peaked out - or off completely...no real control.

On the battery front - I settled on this one from NewEgg (on special the other day for 21.99)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875620022

13000mAh. Nice build, aluminum case.

Question - does it matter which output I use, 1A vs 2A?
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder for DSLR cameras
« Reply #203 on: December 20, 2014, 10:09:11 AM »
Ok  - last night I got to get out in front of a louder rock band at a local brewery. Considerably closer, 15 feet from band, same Audix M1280s

I still had my mic levels set to "high" from my previous gig with the country band in a theatre.

Last night - I had to stop during the first song and set my levels back to "low" - and all was well.(note  - you can't access the menu while recording.)

On high - levels were either peaked out - or off completely...no real control.

On the battery front - I settled on this one from NewEgg (on special the other day for 21.99)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875620022

13000mAh. Nice build, aluminum case.

Question - does it matter which output I use, 1A vs 2A?

1A
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder for DSLR cameras
« Reply #204 on: December 20, 2014, 01:14:17 PM »
Ok  - last night I got to get out in front of a louder rock band at a local brewery. Considerably closer, 15 feet from band, same Audix M1280s

I still had my mic levels set to "high" from my previous gig with the country band in a theatre.

Last night - I had to stop during the first song and set my levels back to "low" - and all was well.(note  - you can't access the menu while recording.)

On high - levels were either peaked out - or off completely...no real control.

On the battery front - I settled on this one from NewEgg (on special the other day for 21.99)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875620022

13000mAh. Nice build, aluminum case.

Question - does it matter which output I use, 1A vs 2A?
for sack of knowledge
Try going into the menu while you are on record/pause aka prerecord
On the 60 you can change gain and such which allows you to see levels while changing. I did it last week where I was boarderline med/high and after seeing ch1 on med and ch2 on high was able to pick what fit best.
(Never tried while actually recording)
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder for DSLR cameras
« Reply #205 on: December 27, 2014, 09:17:44 PM »
B&H is now offering Sony Soundforge Pro 11 for Free with the purchase of a DR-70D!

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1086798-REG/tascam_dr_70d_4_channel_audio_recording.html

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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder for DSLR cameras
« Reply #206 on: December 28, 2014, 06:44:18 PM »
Looking at this sale, others might be interested to know that Soundforge Pro 11 includes some features from Izotope (declick, denoise, and declip) to name but a few. 

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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder for DSLR cameras
« Reply #207 on: December 29, 2014, 03:36:41 PM »
If anyone's interested in my virtually brand new DR-70D for $250, let me know.
My work will be buying us another with the Soundforge bundle.

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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder for DSLR cameras
« Reply #208 on: December 29, 2014, 04:04:36 PM »
If anyone's interested in my virtually brand new DR-70D for $250, let me know.
My work will be buying us another with the Soundforge bundle.

FYI if you bought from B&H like I did...I called yesterday and they did a virtual return over the phone and sent out SF11 to me today free of charge!
AKG 481's, DPA 4061's (Matched), AT ES933's w/ AT853-ELE's (SC/C/O), ECM-19B's, MixPre-3, A10, M10 x 2, Hi Ho Silvers, Various Darktrain & GAKables

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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder for DSLR cameras
« Reply #209 on: December 29, 2014, 04:17:33 PM »
If anyone's interested in my virtually brand new DR-70D for $250, let me know.
My work will be buying us another with the Soundforge bundle.

FYI if you bought from B&H like I did...I called yesterday and they did a virtual return over the phone and sent out SF11 to me today free of charge!
one more reason b&h kicks ass
Mics - AKG ck61/ck63 (c480b & Naiant actives), SP-BMC-2
XLR Cables - Silver Path w/Darktrain stubbies
Interconnect Cables - Dogstar (XLR), Darktrain (RCA > 1/8) (1/8 > 1/8), and Kind Kables (1/8f > 1/4)
Preamps - Naiant Littlebox & Tinybox
Recorders - PCM-M10 & DR-60D

 

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