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Xtreme vs. Star Quad
« on: April 02, 2004, 07:50:16 PM »
I'm thinking of picking up a pair of Xtremes.  I currently run star quad cables.   I'm hoping for a bit more detail.  

So are the xtremes worth the $$ over star quads or should I save my money?
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Re:Xtreme vs. Star Quad
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2004, 08:01:58 PM »
I have x-stream's and star quads. I think the difference in the two is pretty small... I only bought the x-streams because I got a good deal from a local taoer (Todd R). The higher end audio tragics.... errr magics, might be worth the bucks.

you really need a good playback system to hear the difference in field cables, I haven't done any hardcore a/b's but my lowend hi-fi system doesn't really show much of a difference if any.

long story short, save the bucks... buy some speakers ;D
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Re:Xtreme vs. Star Quad
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2004, 08:14:31 PM »
 :P  New speakers are in the works as well.....that's a MUCH tougher decision.  
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« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2004, 01:03:00 PM »
Look at it this way, X-Streams are silver cables, Canare's are copper. You be the judge...

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Re:Xtreme vs. Star Quad
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2004, 01:37:01 PM »
haha,  own xstreamz and i didnt know that!!

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Re:Xtreme vs. Star Quad
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2004, 12:13:33 PM »
Look at it this way, X-Streams are silver cables, Canare's are copper. You be the judge...

good point...
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Re:Xtreme vs. Star Quad
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2004, 12:21:46 PM »
silver schmilver, some call 'em bright.

Not to my ears though. They seem to be much fuller a livlier compared to copper conductors...

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Re:Xtreme vs. Star Quad
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2004, 12:44:11 PM »
If they are "bright" and "lively"  those are two good things in terms of what I'm after.  With the TLs I'm trying to just add a touch more definition to the high end.  I guess I'll have to pick a pair up and see.......
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« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2004, 12:56:41 PM »
If they are "bright" and "lively"  those are two good things in terms of what I'm after.  With the TLs I'm trying to just add a touch more definition to the high end.  I guess I'll have to pick a pair up and see.......

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Re:Xtreme vs. Star Quad
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2004, 12:57:41 PM »

 It really doesn't matter to me anyway, because of cost limitations, and length needs of 30' -> 50' pairs (my needs) are way too costly for anything except homemade.

I hear you on this one Moke. Sucks they have to be so costly...

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Re:Xtreme vs. Star Quad
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2004, 01:36:48 PM »
Thanks Jason.  :)   Looks like I'll be running the zaolla's.

+T for hooking me up
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« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2004, 02:15:54 PM »
Thanks Jason.  :)   Looks like I'll be running the zaolla's.

+T for hooking me up

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« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2004, 02:20:25 PM »
fyi, many in the cirlces i deal with believe better cables are a blend of copper and silver, not pure one way or the other.  the reason for this is that when copper oxidizes it actually becomes a better conductor, whereas when silver oxidizes its conductivity goes down.

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Re:Xtreme vs. Star Quad
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2004, 07:54:47 PM »
fyi, many in the cirlces i deal with believe better cables are a blend of copper and silver, not pure one way or the other.  the reason for this is that when copper oxidizes it actually becomes a better conductor, whereas when silver oxidizes its conductivity goes down.

Here's a good question then......why do many cable makers push "oxygen free" copper?  If oxidation of copper creates a better conductor why do they remove the oxygen to keep it from happening.  Better yet...why don't they sell pre-oxidized cable?

Just curious on this...because in my line of work oxidized copper is an inferior cunductor.  We use wire brushes to clean the oxidized layer before making a new connection.  
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Re:Xtreme vs. Star Quad
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2004, 12:44:09 AM »
Any thoughts on this Silver Plated Copper Belden Star Quad Cable? I just picked up some from Giant squid

Bush has some cables made with this. Used them & loved em. Very compact.  

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