Topic: Wind and crowd noise

[in2blues]

I just recorded a outdoor show, couldn't raise mic's much above crowd and was very windy. Recording has wind noise and chatter from crowd. Have Church Ca-11 mics. with rats on mics. Any thoughts on what I could do to help recording? Was thinking of a 3 or 4 sided box around mics. ( Bottom, sides and back) to help with chatter and wind noise. Any suggestions?

[vanark]

Cardioids or Omnis? Omnis will be more forgiving to the wind than cards, but will also pick up the chatter more. Did you have windscreens and rats or just rats? I'd say bigger windscreens with rats for the wind and height for the chatter. I know you said height was not possible, but it really is the solution for chatter.

[in2blues]

thanks for getting back. have cardioids and Rats over Screens. But had hard time getting rats over screens, when I took them off noticed at least one screen was bunched up and wasn't covering mic.  First time using rats and they need to be stretched out.

[adrianf74]

I'm wondering about not being able to raise the mics much above the crowd - were you up close or were you back around the soundboard/lighting enclosure?

As mentioned, OMNIS are your friend if it's really windy.  I made the mistake of running my CA-14 cards once (with dead rats) and that recording is impossible to listen to (or salvage). 

Ben shared some good info as well.  Hopefully some of that'll help you out.  Gutbucket knows his stuff. 

[in2blues]

I'm wondering about not being able to raise the mics much above the crowd - were you up close or were you back around the soundboard/lighting enclosure?

As mentioned, OMNIS are your friend if it's really windy.  I made the mistake of running my CA-14 cards once (with dead rats) and that recording is impossible to listen to (or salvage). 

Ben shared some good info as well.  Hopefully some of that'll help you out.  Gutbucket knows his stuff.

Thanks for feedback, very helpful.  Couldn't raise mics, they were clamped to soundboard enclosure. No room for stand.