Topic: Anyone running M-148 > 722 ?

[nickgregory]

Nick, come on up to Portsmouth for the WSP shows. Should be a blast!

would love to see the arena, but panic really isnt my thing...have a good time though!

[RebelRebel]

I never got the impression that the m148 "enhanced the bass" ie boosted the bass. It is a fairly transparent box, with just enough "sparkle" to cover up PA ugliness. I even used it on classical gigs and got no bass enhancement whatsoeer..

[grayp]

you can add grayp to the list...

480 > 148 > 722  sweetness in tampa bay area

for the moe show at the hob in orlando on 6/16 i ran one set without the m148 and one set with it.   i've just been too busy to track it out.   if some one wants an untracked copy (or maybe i'll get to tracking it this weekend) i'll be gald to shoot it off.    i can let you know which set is which or you can listen and decide for yourself.

it was 483/722.

gray

[nickgregory]

I never got the impression that the m148 "enhanced the bass" ie boosted the bass. It is a fairly transparent box, with just enough "sparkle" to cover up PA ugliness. I even used it on classical gigs and got no bass enhancement whatsoeer..

it doesnt boost the bass, but in a sloppy bass, PA driven, environment, it doesnt help it imo...that was my point.

[thegreatgumbino]

for the moe show at the hob in orlando on 6/16 i ran one set without the m148 and one set with it.   i've just been too busy to track it out.   if some one wants an untracked copy (or maybe i'll get to tracking it this weekend) i'll be gald to shoot it off.    i can let you know which set is which or you can listen and decide for yourself.

it was 483/722.

gray

Did you ever track out this show Gray?

It's a long shot, but anyone run JW Mod 460's > M148 > 722?

[sygdwm]

for the moe show at the hob in orlando on 6/16 i ran one set without the m148 and one set with it.   i've just been too busy to track it out.   if some one wants an untracked copy (or maybe i'll get to tracking it this weekend) i'll be gald to shoot it off.    i can let you know which set is which or you can listen and decide for yourself.

it was 483/722.

gray

Did you ever track out this show Gray?

It's a long shot, but anyone run JW Mod 460's > M148 > 722?

gray sent this show to me for tracking. after alot of listening, i cant honestly say which one i prefer. they both sound amazing. i wouldnt get rid of the brick anytime soon, but the 722 pre's are VERY good. anyone interested in me posting the 24/96 flacs?

[thegreatgumbino]

gray sent this show to me for tracking. after alot of listening, i cant honestly say which one i prefer. they both sound amazing. i wouldnt get rid of the brick anytime soon, but the 722 pre's are VERY good. anyone interested in me posting the 24/96 flacs?

Definitely.  I've love to hear it.

[cshepherd]

for the moe show at the hob in orlando on 6/16 i ran one set without the m148 and one set with it.   i've just been too busy to track it out.   if some one wants an untracked copy (or maybe i'll get to tracking it this weekend) i'll be gald to shoot it off.    i can let you know which set is which or you can listen and decide for yourself.

it was 483/722.

gray

Did you ever track out this show Gray?

It's a long shot, but anyone run JW Mod 460's > M148 > 722?

gray sent this show to me for tracking. after alot of listening, i cant honestly say which one i prefer. they both sound amazing. i wouldnt get rid of the brick anytime soon, but the 722 pre's are VERY good. anyone interested in me posting the 24/96 flacs?

I would be interested in hearing those tapes.  I'll have 7/14 & 7/15 Panic tapes from Jeff Betts made with 481's>V3 (aes-ebu)>722 using our VdH Orchid cables coming in soon.  He ran two sets without the V3 for comparison.  I'd be happy to share those with anybody interested in the comparison as well.  And I agree, the 722 pre's are very VERY good.  Our 7/12 Panic tape (184's>Orchid xlr's>722) exceeded my expectations.

Chris

[sygdwm]

gray sent this show to me for tracking. after alot of listening, i cant honestly say which one i prefer. they both sound amazing. i wouldnt get rid of the brick anytime soon, but the 722 pre's are VERY good. anyone interested in me posting the 24/96 flacs?

Definitely.  I've love to hear it.

here you go. i hid the details of the source in the bottom of the text file if you want to try and guess.

http://digitalpanic.org/bittorrent/showthread.php?p=100475#post100475

[thegreatgumbino]

Thanks Dre!  +T

[mhibbs]

Yeah, everybody is correct...I've been running it w/ the 4s, although lately I've been running the 248 more often.  The 248 seems to be more forgiving if the room isn't great.  I ran some comps in my living room 4s>722 and 4s>148>722 (wish I hadn't deleted them).  I found the 148 to have more mid-range growl compared to the 722 by itself.  I'm planning on doing some playing around tonight w/ an interesting idea from another thread.  I can run a couple of quick direct comps for you...I'm going to have it setup anyway.

stay tuned.

mitch

[mhibbs]

Alright, so I did the comp w/ the 248, 148, and 722.  Recorded Brute's Puppy Sleeps and left the stereo constant.  I normalized everything to -1db to make it even.  Source gain was a little different b/c I'm using these for another comp in another thread for something else (see 722 hot as hell in recorder section if interested).  I'll keep the "which is which" under wraps for a little while.  Not exactly perfect, but it will work.

mk4>kc5>cmc6>m248>722  -->  -5peak, m248 1/2 full gain
mk4>kc5>cmc6>m148>722  -->  -2peak, m148 fixed gain
mk4>kc5>cmc6>722            -->  -7peak, 722 30db gain

Grab the files via bittorrent here...

http://digitalpanic.org/bittorrent/showthread.php?t=14689

Edit:

So what are my thoughts?  I mixed it up enough that I couldn't remember which was which in the comps, so I wasn't biased either.  I immediately picked up on which was the 148 recording.  If you've spent any time listening to the 148, you'll pick it out too.  It's characteristic robustness is very obvious.  The 248 vs 722 was a toss up.  I've since looked up which was which, and wasn't surprised...it's consistent w/ my guess of how they would be different.  Personally, I like the 148 sound the best out of the three, BUT, as has been mentioned before, if the show is very heavy in the low end, the robust nature of the 148 can be more than you want at times...which is basically the reason I've been running the 248 lately.  My Memphis tapes have a very robust low end (we were way up front) and I think the 148 would have been too much w/out EQ'in some of the low end out.  The 722 pre is impressive in this comparison...I'm leaning towards calling it second best in this outing.  I'll give you guys some time to pull down the files and listen before I give you the source legend.

[monochromic]

Grab the files via bittorrent here...

http://digitalpanic.org/bittorrent/showthread.php?t=14689

thanks for putting this together mitch, grabbing the files now. am looking forward to comparing these.


brett.

[twoodruff]

Alright, so I did the comp w/ the 248, 148, and 722.  Recorded Brute's Puppy Sleeps and left the stereo constant.  I normalized everything to -1db to make it even.  Source gain was a little different b/c I'm using these for another comp in another thread for something else (see 722 hot as hell in recorder section if interested).  I'll keep the "which is which" under wraps for a little while.  Not exactly perfect, but it will work.

mk4>kc5>cmc6>m248>722  -->  -5peak, m248 1/2 full gain
mk4>kc5>cmc6>m148>722  -->  -2peak, m148 fixed gain
mk4>kc5>cmc6>722            -->  -7peak, 722 30db gain

Grab the files via bittorrent here...

http://digitalpanic.org/bittorrent/showthread.php?t=14689

Edit:

So what are my thoughts?  I mixed it up enough that I couldn't remember which was which in the comps, so I wasn't biased either.  I immediately picked up on which was the 148 recording.  If you've spent any time listening to the 148, you'll pick it out too.  It's characteristic robustness is very obvious.  The 248 vs 722 was a toss up.  I've since looked up which was which, and wasn't surprised...it's consistent w/ my guess of how they would be different.  Personally, I like the 148 sound the best out of the three, BUT, as has been mentioned before, if the show is very heavy in the low end, the robust nature of the 148 can be more than you want at times...which is basically the reason I've been running the 248 lately.  My Memphis tapes have a very robust low end (we were way up front) and I think the 148 would have been too much w/out EQ'in some of the low end out.  The 722 pre is impressive in this comparison...I'm leaning towards calling it second best in this outing.  I'll give you guys some time to pull down the files and listen before I give you the source legend.

this type input is what has gotten you some many -t's 

[mhibbs]

this type input is what has gotten you some many -t's 

   exactly