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Re: Front of stage mic height?
« Reply #45 on: October 24, 2017, 03:00:43 PM »
When I "onstage" or "stage lip" I try to get the mics 1-2ft above the height of the front monitor wedges. Or conveniently about the height of those knee-facing guitar amps, and about the midpoint height of the drum kit. Not sure how much science there is to that, but it has worked for me.  And well below a height that will be wacky for the performer.

If you're actually in the crowd, then yeah, you want to be at least head height, "head" meaning wherever most heads are (e.g., if everyone is seated, then at or just above where those heads are)
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Re: Front of stage mic height?
« Reply #46 on: October 24, 2017, 04:38:20 PM »
To me the optimal accouterment for costuming a binaural head for Moke's gigs would be a Beethoven wig (sans wig powder which may clog the mics).  Come to think of it a head in the form of a Beethoven bust ala the style sitting atop Schroeder's toy Peanuts piano would seem most apropos.

Just not sure if that would set the musicians more at ease or put the fear of Ludwig in them!   Likely dependent on how classical their persuasion.

Swap out for an early 70's Herbie-style 2' diameter 'fro for wind-prone funk/fusion gigs.
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Re: Front of stage mic height?
« Reply #47 on: October 24, 2017, 05:13:59 PM »
The same rules that apply to human hairstyles apply to binaural head hairstyles.  Thus there can be only one correct choice: the mullet.
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Re: Front of stage mic height?
« Reply #48 on: October 24, 2017, 06:45:25 PM »
For certain musical styles it's the obvious choice!

How'bout rigid starched Mohawk doubling as Schneider disc for punk?





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Re: Front of stage mic height?
« Reply #49 on: October 24, 2017, 07:04:22 PM »
But how about Metal? Could a dummy head be screwed onto a mechanical device that will move it about in a headbanging motion?  :guitarist:

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Re: Front of stage mic height?
« Reply #50 on: October 24, 2017, 08:50:38 PM »
if you're going to clutter the end of the center aisle, you might as well make it colorful.

first pic,... that is actually the edge of the stage, it just doesn't look like one.
last pic: Gude has spaced omnis as shoulders.
« Last Edit: October 24, 2017, 08:55:58 PM by Moke »

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Re: Front of stage mic height?
« Reply #51 on: October 26, 2017, 12:41:15 PM »
OK,... I mentioned Gude might be leaning towards a cyborg-steampunk look.
Decisions decisions,... which hat pin style looks better? The dashing over the ear right ear style, or, the left ear surrounding uber-cyborg aural amplitudificator?
« Last Edit: October 26, 2017, 05:37:27 PM by Moke »

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Re: Front of stage mic height?
« Reply #52 on: October 26, 2017, 12:53:54 PM »
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Left ear      ;D
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Re: Front of stage mic height?
« Reply #53 on: October 26, 2017, 01:05:06 PM »
TJE—I have only used the Crown boundary mics on an indoor stage (looked pretty permanent) and don’t know how they’d perform outdoors on a temporary stage.  Wind protection might be a challenge, maybe you could cover them with furry plastic colander bowls...     Moke—what is that binaural head made from — is it heavy/dense or light material?  (Sorry if I’m veering off topic). That looks really interesting.

It is a Sennheiser MKE2002 Aritificial Head Binaural Stereo Microphone Kit.
long enough name? yep, that its proper name.

It is a hard plastic, now. It was a bit softer back when I got it 30 yeas ago.  But time marches on, and plastics harden. It is foam filled, with some sort of expandable foam.
Its ears are well detailed like a humans ears.  A pair of DPA4060 fit into the ear canals well, and I've used it that way a few times.  The rigging shown in that image is with the Senn matching mics. The Senn mics are joined together with a stethoscopic-like bridge, and it is held into the ears by little ball ends at the mic cap. There is a chin clip to fix and hold the proper mic angle in relation to the ears.

I wish I had something similar to use with my schoeps mk3....

I've seen people using Styrofoam heads for this as well.

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Re: Front of stage mic height?
« Reply #54 on: October 26, 2017, 01:23:11 PM »
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Left ear      ;D

Its surprising to see how well a DVD burner/swimming pool timer clock mechanism hybrid fits over the ear of a Senn head, ain't it? Its like a custsom fit.

 

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