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Under $1k - Outdoor Jam Band Mic Recommendations
« on: March 24, 2016, 11:18:02 PM »
Hey Everyone,

I have a budget of about $900 and need recommendations for a new set of mics for festival season. I'll be taping jam, funk, and rock bands from the FOH area. I have a oade concert mod R-44. Wish I had the $ for Schoeps, but not this year.

I've used Busman BSC1's and been happy with their performance but they don't seem to be available anymore. Any help would be awesome!

Thanks!

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Re: Under $1k - Outdoor Jam Band Mic Recommendations
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2016, 11:46:53 PM »
for 900 you have alot of options if your willing to consider used. i think there are some akgs in the yard sale currently for less than your budget!

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Re: Under $1k - Outdoor Jam Band Mic Recommendations
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2016, 01:54:12 AM »
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Re: Under $1k - Outdoor Jam Band Mic Recommendations
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2016, 02:43:14 AM »
I have Busmans and like them a lot. When I was researching mics I came across these as a serious contender http://www.pelusomicrophonelab.com/microphones/CEMC6SK.html
A pair came up in yardsale a couple of months ago and I snatched them up. Love these mics.
Here is a sample, recorded in a somewhat challenging room.
https://archive.org/details/um2016-03-11.cemc6.flac16
Mics: CA-14(cards & omnis) and CA-11(cards & omnis) ; AT853's(cards, hypers, mini shotguns); Busman BSC-1 (cards, hypers, omnis)
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Re: Under $1k - Outdoor Jam Band Mic Recommendations
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2016, 03:01:44 AM »
Second on the Peluso's too.

I could have sworn I saw a set of Busman BSC2's in the YS recently. ...just checked, they sold...but if you can find those they  work good for FOB and you'll get multiple caps which is also handy.
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Re: Under $1k - Outdoor Jam Band Mic Recommendations
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2016, 03:12:40 AM »
I'm listening to this Umphreys's McGee show right now. Damn. These Peluso's are impressive mics.
https://archive.org/details/um2016-03-11.cemc6.flac16

Ya, the BSC2 set was really tempting...
Mics: CA-14(cards & omnis) and CA-11(cards & omnis) ; AT853's(cards, hypers, mini shotguns); Busman BSC-1 (cards, hypers, omnis)
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Tascam PE-120's (cards, omnis) Countryman B2D
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Re: Under $1k - Outdoor Jam Band Mic Recommendations
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2016, 10:20:41 AM »
Beyer makes some great mics for what we do (the rec from Fatah Ruark above). That said, your budget is enough to consider many items. Also of use to us would be tell us what recorder9s) you have as that determines if you can use XLR connectors, 1/8th inch jack connectors or microdots. The deck type also tells us if you need a battery box or if the deck supplies phantom power. I have no experience with the peluso's named above, but they would certainly do. You say FOH and outdoor. so remember you will need good windscreens as well, which add up cost wise. I just spent $70 for a pair of Big Ass Shures for instance (for our AKG 460/ck61's).

I would suggest checking out Gutbuckets threads on mic configs. He uses a lot of DPA's with a couple of naiant's and you could afford used DPA's if you went that route (cable also an issue as the DPA's use the microdots) You could also go the used AKG active route as they allow you to have different capsule choices. kindms picked up our AKG actives (with ck61 cardiod caps and naiant PFA's) used for about $600 iirc.
I will finally add, I own a pair of Beyer M201E's which I used infrequently until this year. they are dynamic mics so do not require phantom power and also hypercardiod which many here dislike, but can be nice for outdoor environments with crowd noise. I'll link to the Beyers and a recording made with them:
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/M201TG
https://archive.org/details/gd1983-06-22.beyerm201.holbrook.burke.81511.sbeok.flac24

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Re: Under $1k - Outdoor Jam Band Mic Recommendations
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2016, 10:27:11 AM »
If you're running all open you could get some used naks from the YS or EBay. Would be less than 1k and you could get batteries and accessories with the extra funds.
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Re: Under $1k - Outdoor Jam Band Mic Recommendations
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2016, 10:48:05 AM »
AKG 461's I think are still for sale in the yard sale. 

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Re: Under $1k - Outdoor Jam Band Mic Recommendations
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2016, 11:04:00 AM »
And I think there's still a pair of 481s for 800, that's a lot of bang for the buck, and you can always add caps. Loved mine, great outdoors.
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Re: Under $1k - Outdoor Jam Band Mic Recommendations
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2016, 11:30:22 AM »
The default answer would be AKGs, and I think that's probably right. Pelusos and Beyers are great too. One advantage with AKGs is you could just get capsules + cables/PFAs for a nice compact setup.
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Re: Under $1k - Outdoor Jam Band Mic Recommendations
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2016, 12:13:30 PM »
Sorry ADK A51 TL's all day baby!  Four Pattern LD mics that can be found used for around $500 in the yard sale.  Don't be afraid to go LD. 
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Re: Under $1k - Outdoor Jam Band Mic Recommendations
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2016, 12:17:55 PM »
I'll throw in w/an AKG recomendation.   you could find some Neumann 184's in that range too...and those would be super nice outdoors (and in)

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Re: Under $1k - Outdoor Jam Band Mic Recommendations
« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2016, 01:13:27 PM »
Sorry ADK A51 TL's all day baby!  Four Pattern LD mics that can be found used for around $500 in the yard sale.  Don't be afraid to go LD. 
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