Author Topic: offloading data from laptop (Read 10315 times)

DaryanLenz · « **on:** October 27, 2003, 08:55:38 PM »

Any really simple method of doing this? I know the availible options (serial cables, special usb etc.) Just curious how everyone was doing it.
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MattD · « **Reply #1 on:** October 27, 2003, 09:07:00 PM »

crossover cable and FTP

MattD · « **Reply #2 on:** October 27, 2003, 09:08:13 PM »

sometimes I use my router when I'm too lazy to change settings on the PC

sgordo · « **Reply #3 on:** October 27, 2003, 09:44:58 PM »

I've just been burning straight to disc from laptop...

rip flac files to my desktop from there if need be.

Simp-Dawg · « **Reply #4 on:** October 27, 2003, 11:33:14 PM »

i just use the home network and transfer the files from lappy to pc. crossover cable would do the trick though. either cat-5 (ethernet) or usb, but cat 5 is waayyy cheaper than a usb crossover cable.

mirth · « **Reply #5 on:** October 28, 2003, 12:09:48 AM »

Quote from: Simp-Dawg on October 27, 2003, 11:33:14 PM

i just use the home network and transfer the files from lappy to pc. crossover cable would do the trick though. either cat-5 (ethernet) or usb, but cat 5 is waayyy cheaper than a usb crossover cable.

No to mention waayyy faster too... At least, 100Mb Ethernet versus USB 1.1

DaryanLenz · « **Reply #6 on:** October 28, 2003, 09:35:10 AM »

If you don't have a home network, and only one computer, how would one go about doing this? Links would be fantastic. Thanks for the help

Daryan

Brian Skalinder · « **Reply #7 on:** October 28, 2003, 11:55:32 AM »

Quote from: DaryanL on October 28, 2003, 09:35:10 AM

If you don't have a home network, and only one computer, how would one go about doing this? Links would be fantastic. Thanks for the help

Daryan

Uhmmmmmm...to where do you want to offload the data?

If you have a single PC, you could either offload it to an external HD, or CD/DVD. If it was me, I'd just go to CD/DVD.

DaryanLenz · « **Reply #8 on:** October 28, 2003, 12:26:34 PM »

I don't have an external cd/dvd. I was thinking I could pop out the internal HD and put it into a usb mini-case, which I have. Any reason I shouldn't do this?

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Simp-Dawg · « **Reply #9 on:** October 28, 2003, 12:39:42 PM »

yeah where did you want to offload to? i guess i get your use of the term offload instead of upload if you only have the one computer. in that case, an external hard drive would be your best best. you can buy them already set up in an enclosure or you can use a normal internal drive and put it in an enclosure, usb or firewire.
when you say pop out the internal hd, are you talking about the one already in your lappy? the one that already has the data on it? tell us exactly what you have and what you want to do.

DaryanLenz · « **Reply #10 on:** October 28, 2003, 12:42:36 PM »

I have a desktop, and a laptop, and would like to get the 24 bit data off of the laptop and onto the desktop so I can play it back and hear it. I was thinking about popping out the internal from the laptop, put it into a case, then connect it to the desktop. Any thoughts?

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Brian Skalinder · « **Reply #11 on:** October 28, 2003, 12:50:00 PM »

Quote from: DaryanL on October 28, 2003, 12:42:36 PM

I have a desktop, and a laptop, and would like to get the 24 bit data off of the laptop and onto the desktop so I can play it back and hear it. I was thinking about popping out the internal from the laptop, put it into a case, then connect it to the desktop. Any thoughts?

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Oh!! Well, in that case...crossover cable.

Simp-Dawg · « **Reply #12 on:** October 28, 2003, 01:57:43 PM »

Quote from: Brian Skalinder on October 28, 2003, 12:50:00 PM

Quote from: DaryanL on October 28, 2003, 12:42:36 PM
I have a desktop, and a laptop, and would like to get the 24 bit data off of the laptop and onto the desktop so I can play it back and hear it. I was thinking about popping out the internal from the laptop, put it into a case, then connect it to the desktop. Any thoughts?

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Oh!! Well, in that case...crossover cable.

yeah i think hoking up the 2 over an ethernet (cat-5) cable is probably the simplest method, provided both computers have an ethernet port and you can figure out tcp/ip.
otherwise, putting the drive in a usb enclosure is a viable option, i believe those dell's have easily accessible hd's, where you just take out 1 screw and then slide the hd tray out, then you gotta remove the drive from the tray and slap it into your enclosure, am i right? that will work, but may not be as fast as the crossover route due to usb 1.1 limitations

Brian Skalinder · « **Reply #13 on:** October 28, 2003, 02:13:38 PM »

Quote from: Simp-Dawg on October 28, 2003, 01:57:43 PM

yeah i think hoking up the 2 over an ethernet (cat-5) cable is probably the simplest method, provided both computers have an ethernet port and you can figure out tcp/ip.

You could also probably do this with netbeui if you don't want to mess with TCP/IP. Netbeui = no IP configuration required, very simple.

Simp-Dawg · « **Reply #14 on:** October 28, 2003, 02:20:06 PM »

right on, i don't know nothin bout no netbeui, uh uh.

mirth · « **Reply #15 on:** October 28, 2003, 02:31:53 PM »

Is NetBeui still available in XP? Man, been so long since I abandoned that protocol. Good for small LANs but nothin' more.

Brian Skalinder · « **Reply #16 on:** October 28, 2003, 02:52:45 PM »

Quote from: mirth on October 28, 2003, 02:31:53 PM

Is NetBeui still available in XP? Man, been so long since I abandoned that protocol. Good for small LANs but nothin' more.

Ooooo...didn't think of that one. Not sure if it's in XP or not.

DaryanLenz · « **Reply #17 on:** October 28, 2003, 03:53:04 PM »

I will check onthe netbui thing when I get home. I am sitting in the old apartment relishing the fact that I am not at work for an hour!!! If I have to do the tcpi thing, does anyone have a link? I am pretty good with stuff once I read it. If you do, post it here as I don't have my home e-mail at work.
Thanks guys

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mirth · « **Reply #18 on:** October 28, 2003, 04:05:14 PM »

Unless you have the crossover cable you will have to buy one or build it (will need crimper, ends).

Googling 'crossover cable pinout' should get you your wire assignments.

DaryanLenz · « **Reply #19 on:** October 28, 2003, 05:30:58 PM »

That would be great. Power adapter went in the mail yesterday. Maybe I will buy a firewire enclosure since I have a firewire card sitting around somewhere. Thanks guys. Now, I just have to figure out how to power my lappy and I should be all good. Locally I have ac, but elsewhere, not so much. Does anyone need a power pad 160? I need the d model for my lappy and do not want to eat the b model. I would trade it for a valence if someone just needed the 15 hour batt.

Daryan

Styx Cover Band · « **Reply #20 on:** October 28, 2003, 06:15:40 PM »

Using a crossover cable is like being hooked up to an intranet. Just make sure you have the file sharing permissions at full and go through network neighborhood to access the computer. The computers do have to be under the same workgroup though

MattD · « **Reply #21 on:** October 28, 2003, 08:40:10 PM »

I avoid the network neighborhood crap with some IP configuration. Unplug your regular internet connection from both machines (or if you have a 2nd ethernet card in your desktop like me, this doesn't apply). Set the IP on your desktop to 192.168.0.1 and accept whatever other settings it wants to give it. Set the IP on your laptop to 192.168.0.2. Then you can run an FTP server on one machine and a client on the other. With 100-baseT cards and a SHORT Cat5e or better cable, you can transfer an entire show in a few minutes. I would regularly get transfer rates of 10,000 KB/s (gets pretty close to the theoretical maximum of 100-baseT).

Ask if you have more questions.

-Matt

DaryanLenz · « **Reply #22 on:** October 28, 2003, 08:51:54 PM »

Just one queswtion. Is a cat5e cable the same as the one I use with my cable modem? Not too sure about this stuff.

Then I would just reconf the ip on my desktop, how do I do that?

Daryan

MattD · « **Reply #23 on:** October 28, 2003, 09:17:27 PM »

5 or 5e is likely what you'd use with your cable modem. 5 is spec'd for 10 baseT while 5e is for 100.

To reconfig your desktop IP, go into Start>Settings>Network and Dial-up Connections.
Right click your connection and view properties.
Highlight "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)" in the list (you may have to scroll to see it) and click the properties button.
Click the radio button for "use the following IP address" and type in 192.168 ... that I posted above. Make sure you do NOT give your two machines the same address.
Connect cable, FTP away.
To set back, repeat the above but click the radio button for "obtain an IP address automatically."

*NOTE: if you have some custom IP configuration already set up - i.e. the "use the following IP address" button is checked, do not mess with this unless you know what you're doing.

-Matt

mirth · « **Reply #24 on:** October 28, 2003, 11:45:57 PM »

Short being less than the 100 meter max segment length in the ethernet RFC...

CAT 3 is spec'ed for 10Mbps, CAT 5 for 100, and CAT5e and higher for Gigabit over Ethernet.

Running a FTP server on one and client on the other will work, so will setting up general File sharing. The only reason why machines have to be in the same workgroup is for ease of use of Network Neighborhood (My Network Places under 2000/XP).
You can just as easily browse a machine by using it's UNC path. eg: \\<machine IP address>\share_name

Enjoy the wonderful world of Windows file sharing! Be sure to disable any firewalls on these machines or it may not work...

DaryanLenz · « **Reply #25 on:** October 29, 2003, 08:32:58 AM »

Thanks guys, I am pretty good with the el computer, so I don't think I will have any trouble doing this. Thanks again gentlemen.

Daryan

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