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Re: Best choice for portable recorder - R-09HR screen dying
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2014, 07:12:42 PM »
In 5 years, there will likely be some new temptation.  IMO, 2d offers four tracks, not so good battery life.  M10 offers 2 tracks, terrific battery life.   

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Re: Best choice for portable recorder - R-09HR screen dying
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2014, 09:28:19 AM »
In 5 years, there will likely be some new temptation.  IMO, 2d offers four tracks, not so good battery life.  M10 offers 2 tracks, terrific battery life.   
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Re: Best choice for portable recorder - R-09HR screen dying
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2014, 07:52:01 PM »
i wouldnt hesitate to buy an M10. its a lot of gear for $220 and hard to go wrong
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Re: Best choice for portable recorder - R-09HR screen dying
« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2014, 06:03:36 PM »
The screen of my Edirol R-09HR is also dying :) But my request is slightly different: I need something that can record from two different sources in the same time. I have two sets of cardioid microphones with their own battery boxes (SP-CMC-8 and CA-14) and I want a recorder that will be able to record two different stereo (or at least mono) tracks in the same time. Which probably means being able to record from mic AND line-in input in the same time (or two mic inputs). Can any recorder do that? Tascam DR-40 is able to record from two different mic inputs AND from internal mics as well (so that's actually 1 + 1 + 2 = 4 tracks total!) but those external inputs are XLR. I want standard small "jack" inputs. Is there any recorder that can do that?

(Don't ask about the reason... it's just that I want to tape concerts using both of my mics in the same time because each of them sounds slightly different at different venues and I want to have two different recordings to choose the better one afterwards).

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Re: Best choice for portable recorder - R-09HR screen dying
« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2014, 04:29:00 AM »
The screen of my Edirol R-09HR is also dying :) But my request is slightly different: I need something that can record from two different sources in the same time. I have two sets of cardioid microphones with their own battery boxes (SP-CMC-8 and CA-14) and I want a recorder that will be able to record two different stereo (or at least mono) tracks in the same time. Which probably means being able to record from mic AND line-in input in the same time (or two mic inputs). Can any recorder do that? Tascam DR-40 is able to record from two different mic inputs AND from internal mics as well (so that's actually 1 + 1 + 2 = 4 tracks total!) but those external inputs are XLR. I want standard small "jack" inputs. Is there any recorder that can do that?

(Don't ask about the reason... it's just that I want to tape concerts using both of my mics in the same time because each of them sounds slightly different at different venues and I want to have two different recordings to choose the better one afterwards).

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Re: Best choice for portable recorder - R-09HR screen dying
« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2014, 10:03:19 AM »
Go back and read the whole thread.
Tascam DR-2D does what you need.

I did notice it but the Tascam website describes the dual recording as "the built-in mics plus the line input" (actually it offers three different recordings modes but only this one is remotely similar to what I need). Can it really record two separate files from two mic inputs? From the description it looks like one of the inputs has to be the built-in mics.

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Re: Best choice for portable recorder - R-09HR screen dying
« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2014, 03:02:48 PM »
Go back and read the whole thread.
Tascam DR-2D does what you need.

I did notice it but the Tascam website describes the dual recording as "the built-in mics plus the line input" (actually it offers three different recordings modes but only this one is remotely similar to what I need). Can it really record two separate files from two mic inputs? From the description it looks like one of the inputs has to be the built-in mics.

Two separate stereo files, one from mic in, the other from line in is possible with the DR2D.

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Re: Best choice for portable recorder - R-09HR screen dying
« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2014, 03:49:23 PM »
The screen of my Edirol R-09HR is also dying :) But my request is slightly different: I need something that can record from two different sources in the same time. I have two sets of cardioid microphones with their own battery boxes (SP-CMC-8 and CA-14) and I want a recorder that will be able to record two different stereo (or at least mono) tracks in the same time. Which probably means being able to record from mic AND line-in input in the same time (or two mic inputs). Can any recorder do that? Tascam DR-40 is able to record from two different mic inputs AND from internal mics as well (so that's actually 1 + 1 + 2 = 4 tracks total!) but those external inputs are XLR. I want standard small "jack" inputs. Is there any recorder that can do that?

(Don't ask about the reason... it's just that I want to tape concerts using both of my mics in the same time because each of them sounds slightly different at different venues and I want to have two different recordings to choose the better one afterwards).

The 2d will do it, but is discontinued.  The 60d will record four tracks, but two of them are XLR/Phantom power, and you can't stuff the 60d in an ordinary clothes pocket.  It's not huge, but it isn't small, either. 

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Re: Best choice for portable recorder - R-09HR screen dying
« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2014, 04:40:26 AM »
Many thanks. I just bought DR-2D on ebay and I'm curious how different it will be from Edirol R-09HR (mainly in terms of handling and battery life). Size should be about the same so it should be good for hidden taping. Apparently the latest firmwares have improved the battery life significantly so I guess it's a pretty good recorder for us tapers :-)

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Re: Best choice for portable recorder - R-09HR screen dying
« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2014, 05:42:56 PM »
Many thanks. I just bought DR-2D on ebay and I'm curious how different it will be from Edirol R-09HR (mainly in terms of handling and battery life). Size should be about the same so it should be good for hidden taping. Apparently the latest firmwares have improved the battery life significantly so I guess it's a pretty good recorder for us tapers :-)

I only used the R-09 a few times, so I can't really compare them, but the DR-2D is definitely a little trickier just because of the 4-track thing. Read up on the DR-2D threads (especially for advice on what to run in to mic-in vs line-in), but once you get it set up for your needs, it's pretty easy. But with all new gear, it's always good to practice a bunch at home before you head out into the field.

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Re: Best choice for portable recorder - R-09HR screen dying
« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2014, 08:29:49 PM »
UPDATE:

Ordered my PCM-M10 today - couldn't believe how hard it was to find one. Should be receiving it middle of next week, first use planned for an acoustic show on 6/12.
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Re: Best choice for portable recorder - R-09HR screen dying
« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2014, 09:32:12 PM »
Quite odd that there out of stock everywhere.   Wondering if Sony plans to release something new shortly or if they just didn't place an order fast enough?

You'll be happy with the M10 with its excellent battery life and the fact that it's pretty much bulletproof.  I own both the M10 and DR-2D and prefer the layout/menus of the M10 to 2D.  The 2D only gets used when I'm recording four channels.

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Re: Best choice for portable recorder - R-09HR screen dying
« Reply #27 on: June 05, 2014, 03:54:05 PM »
M10 in the house today!

First use scheduled for a week from tonight! Could have gotten it for $20 cheaper if I had waited, as it is now back in stock at places like B&H, but who knew?
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