Topic: Best Shockmounts/Clips for SDC's under $50

[Chimney Top]

BHphotovideo website is overwhelming, so I thought I would ask for some input.  I don't want to spend more than $50 for a single mount/clip (preferably $25 if it is quality and not paying for a name).  I use Neumann KM184's.

Thanks!

[Chimney Top]

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/108255-REG/Beyerdynamic_AMS_EA_19_25_Shock_Mount_and_MKV_11.html


thinking about this one, or something similar.

[vanark]

I would contact Busman.  I think he sells his for about $35.  He has both 20mm and 22mm versions.  They work great for me.

http://www.busmanaudio.com/microphones.html  his email is at the bottom.

[DigiGal]

Rycote INV's are only a little more but the best shocks going imho...

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=inv7&N=0&InitialSearch=yes

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=2457.0


This video give a good demonstration of the Rycote's durability...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03eQKtftojE&feature=relmfu

[achalsey]

I would contact Busman.  I think he sells his for about $35.  He has both 20mm and 22mm versions.  They work great for me.

http://www.busmanaudio.com/microphones.html  his email is at the bottom.

Seconded.  I got my first pair for $40 about a year ago, not sure if prices have gone up.

[Chimney Top]

I would contact Busman.  I think he sells his for about $35.  He has both 20mm and 22mm versions.  They work great for me.

http://www.busmanaudio.com/microphones.html  his email is at the bottom.

Seconded.  I got my first pair for $40 about a year ago, not sure if prices have gone up.

could one of ya'll post a pic?  they are for neumann km184's- they are 22mm.

thanks



edit) nevermind, i found his website. 

I would go for that one, but kinda liking these smaller clips for carrying around...  my Audio Technica mounts require alot of attention/care when taking them in the field.

[vanark]

Here are some AKG 460's in them...  I think they are 21 or 22 mm.

[page]

Rycote INV's are only a little more but the best shocks going imho...

+1

If the objective is reducing bump sound as it hits your mics, I think the rycote's nearest competition is the shure donut. There was a magazine that did a comparison a while ago (and I've repeated it at home) and I think both work well with the rycote invision line being the top spot. My rycote is my daily driver since I really think it is an excellent mount and I keep a donut handy in case I had to really reduce the visual footprint.

This video give a good demonstration of the Rycote's durability...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03eQKtftojE&feature=relmfu

I've assaulted mine before and it just keeps right on going. Periodically I tighten the screws on it, but thats it. You get what you pay for IMHO.

[vanark]

I would go for that one, but kinda liking these smaller clips for carrying around...  my Audio Technica mounts require alot of attention/care when taking them in the field.

I don't treat mine gingerly - they are pretty durable.

[ScoobieKW]

I would go for that one, but kinda liking these smaller clips for carrying around...  my Audio Technica mounts require alot of attention/care when taking them in the field.

I don't treat mine gingerly - they are pretty durable.

Saw these in another thread, anyone else have experience with them?
http://www.tensimount.com/

[vanark]

I would go for that one, but kinda liking these smaller clips for carrying around...  my Audio Technica mounts require alot of attention/care when taking them in the field.

I don't treat mine gingerly - they are pretty durable.

Saw these in another thread, anyone else have experience with them?
http://www.tensimount.com/

These were my first mounts.  Okay and servicable.  Certainly flexible to use with many different mics - used mine with both CA-11's and Octava MK-012's.  The Busmans are a better fit for me and not much more.

[ScoobieKW]

Picked up some KAM i3s in the Yard Sale, 22mm. I've considered the Busman mounts, will email him.

[John Willett]

The best shockmounts for SDCs are, without doubt, the Rycote InVision series - just £30 each in the UK.  There use the patented "Lyre" mount that is extremely effective and is rugged and unbreakable.

The only others that come close are the Cinela Osix at a higher price and the Shure donut mount.

Personally, I have now moved over to the Rycote series of mounts for all my microphones.

THIS pdf makes good reading - "Keeping Microphones Quiet".

[Chimney Top]

Which model is the Shure donut mount everyone is talking about?

A55M?

[kirk97132]

Got a Pair of these for $15 using the make an offer option:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/290447633395?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
I have since put a little beefier O-ring on it and it supports a set of Nak 300's with ease now.  It worked ok with the stock rubbers but had a tiny bit of sag with a set of Zaolla cables on the mics.

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=151087.0

[DigiGal]

Which model is the Shure donut mount everyone is talking about?

A55M?

Forget the Shure donut [a53m], I have one that I used to use for my active setup but have even switched that setup over to Rycote now.  The Shure donut does not provide comparable isolation nor is it as durable as the Rycote INV's.  You will really get what you pay for with the INV's and they should last you a lifetime; they won't break, no elastic bands to replace, integrated cable strain relief, superior isolation and are light weight too.  The small amount over your budget roughly [$20/pair] will be well worth it for you.  Once you have them you will not need to replace them later or regret the purchase.  Definitely read the "Keeping Microphones Quiet" paper that John Willet linked.  I've used busman, audio-technica & shure donut shocks but none were/are as good as the Rycote's and I wouldn't go back to using the others.

[SmokinJoe]

I use clips (not shocks) most of the time... I can't remember the last time I heard a sound because of it.  LD's yes, SD's, no.   A kit of 184's comes with clips, so Neumann must think it's OK.  Same with Nak, AKG, Earthworks and Schoeps to name a few.   That said, if you have really pristine finish on your mics, jamming them into tight clips a thousand times will scuff the finish, but the same goes for some shocks.  If that scuffing is a big concern I think AT8410's are probably the most "gentle" to the finish.

[Chimney Top]

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/758980-REG/Rycote_041118_INV_HG_MKII_InVision_Indoor.html


rycote inv - something like this for km184's?

[DigiGal]

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/758980-REG/Rycote_041118_INV_HG_MKII_InVision_Indoor.html


rycote inv - something like this for km184's?

INV-7's are recommended for km184's according to the attached chart but the ones you linked could also work.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=inv-7&N=0&InitialSearch=yes

[mattmiller]

That said, if you have really pristine finish on your mics, jamming them into tight clips a thousand times will scuff the finish, but the same goes for some shocks.  If that scuffing is a big concern I think AT8410's are probably the most "gentle" to the finish.

I'm glad this topic came up, because I strongly dislike the Busman shocks for my KM140s and would like something else.  Someone mentioned that his mounts come in two different sizes.  I don't recall choosing a particular size, but I mentioned what mics I wanted them for when I purchased them.  The mounts I received are extremely tight for the KM140s and I don't like how much force I have to use to squeeze them in.  It didn't worry me as much initially because of the felt lining, but that lining is now wearing off, so I'm liking them less and less over time.  I had originally purchased the AT8410s and love their design, but I think they are too big for these mics (unless I'm using them incorrectly).  I would love to find some mounts that are designed exactly like the AT8410s, just a bit smaller.

[vanark]

There is a 20 mm version and a 22 mm version.  Contact Chris at Busman and explain the issue.  Maybe he'll send you new baskets.  I've found him to be very reasonable.

[Fried Chicken Boy]

Saw these in another thread, anyone else have experience with them?
http://www.tensimount.com/

Bought a pair of those years ago and, IIRC, they worked alright for my needs.  Then I discovered the Rycote InVision mounts and never looked back, lol.  Pretty sure I still have the Tensimounts but don't know exactly where I put 'em.  If anyone is interested in them (provided I can FIND them), shoot me a PM.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/758980-REG/Rycote_041118_INV_HG_MKII_InVision_Indoor.html

rycote inv - something like this for km184's?

INV-7's are recommended for km184's according to the attached chart but the ones you linked could also work.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=inv-7&N=0&InitialSearch=yes

The Rycote INV-6 will also work just fine for the km184's.  I use that model all the time for AT3031's and DPA 4021's.  The only difference between the -6's and -7's is the spacing between the lyres on the -6's is closer together to work for shorter mics. 

[DigiGal]

The Rycote INV-6 will also work just fine for the km184's.  I use that model all the time for AT3031's and DPA 4021's.  The only difference between the -6's and -7's is the spacing between the lyres on the -6's is closer together to work for shorter mics.

With the INV-7's you can also move one of the lyres to get the same closer spacing as an INV-6 if desired, allowing a little extra versatility in mic lengths.

[page]

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/758980-REG/Rycote_041118_INV_HG_MKII_InVision_Indoor.html

rycote inv - something like this for km184's?

INV-7's are recommended for km184's according to the attached chart but the ones you linked could also work.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=inv-7&N=0&InitialSearch=yes

The Rycote INV-6 will also work just fine for the km184's.  I use that model all the time for AT3031's and DPA 4021's.  The only difference between the -6's and -7's is the spacing between the lyres on the -6's is closer together to work for shorter mics.

I use the INV-6 as a kwonbar-style mount with mine. (example photo)

[newplanet7]

I use clips (not shocks) most of the time... I can't remember the last time I heard a sound because of it.  LD's yes, SD's, no.   A kit of 184's comes with clips, so Neumann must think it's OK.  Same with Nak, AKG, Earthworks and Schoeps to name a few.   That said, if you have really pristine finish on your mics, jamming them into tight clips a thousand times will scuff the finish, but the same goes for some shocks.  If that scuffing is a big concern I think AT8410's are probably the most "gentle" to the finish.

As everyone knows, me and joe are in the same camp on this. Clips 95% of the time.
I understand using shocks as an insurance plan, I just choose not to because clips haven't done me wrong.
They also came with my SDC Milabs.

[mattmiller]

There is a 20 mm version and a 22 mm version.  Contact Chris at Busman and explain the issue.  Maybe he'll send you new baskets.  I've found him to be very reasonable.

Are the mics supposed to slide into the baskets from behind, or are they supposed to have to be snapped in from above?  The mics are 22 mm, and, as best as I can measure, the inside diameter of the basket is about 20.5 mm (including the felt).  Is that evidence enough that I have his 20 mm mounts?

[flicflac]

Rycote.

[F.O.Bean]

The InVisions are the best/nicest, but for size and bulk, IMHO The Shure Donuts are my top pick

If I was running full bodied mics, Id buy those Busman shocks and a shure vert bar and BAM.

But if you want the BEST, IMHO, thats an Audio Technica AT-8415 Shocks w/ K-Tek K-SUS Heavy-Duty Rubber Mounts

[vanark]

There is a 20 mm version and a 22 mm version.  Contact Chris at Busman and explain the issue.  Maybe he'll send you new baskets.  I've found him to be very reasonable.

Are the mics supposed to slide into the baskets from behind, or are they supposed to have to be snapped in from above?  The mics are 22 mm, and, as best as I can measure, the inside diameter of the basket is about 20.5 mm (including the felt).  Is that evidence enough that I have his 20 mm mounts?

I slide mine in - I wouldn't think about trying to snap them in for fear of cracking the basket.

[bryonsos]

These are identical to the 22mm ones Busman sells, but didn't come with felt. I put some in myself, and it made them functionally 20-21mm.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Microphone-Clip-Clamp-Holder-Shock-Mount-Suspension-22mm-Shotgun-Pencil-Pro-0070-/300644108585?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45ffc90929#ht_3297wt_746

I picked up a pair a couple months ago. I made an offer for 2 at $12 each and they accepted. Mailed from China I think, so it took ~ 1 1/2 weeks to arrive.

[John Willett]

Which model is the Shure donut mount everyone is talking about?

A55M?

Yes - the A53M and A55M.

[flicflac]

I purchased the inv-7's http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=inv-7&N=0&InitialSearch=yes and am very happy with them.
Although after having them for a few days I can see the potential for scuffing up the mics.
Now somebody posts a link for these http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/758980-REG/Rycote_041118_INV_HG_MKII_InVision_Indoor.html
and I seem to think they may be a better choice as they look like they may be more gentle on the mics..
I may just be on my way back to B&H for an exchange.
Any suggestions or input on this?

[flipp]

Addressing the OP's under $50 limitation I have to recommend the Avantone SSM mounts; and it just so happens there is a pair currently in the yard for $40 shipped. The one "negative" is their weight, which is substantial since they are all metal.

[John Willett]

Addressing the OP's under $50 limitation I have to recommend the Avantone SSM mounts; and it just so happens there is a pair currently in the yard for $40 shipped. The one "negative" is their weight, which is substantial since they are all metal.

But it's a pretty horrible mount compared to the Rycote "Lyre" design.  The Rubber O-rings need replacing now and again and the mic. can be prone to droop and bounce.

It depends if you want cheap or you want effective - in fact, the Rycote is both cheap and effective. 

[ts]

I use the Beyer shocks mentioned on page 1 of this thread. Very light weight and compact, but 55 each. The Rycote 7's are 62 each. Both of these choices can be qualified as effective, but not cheap. I think the original poster wants something under 50 for the pair. The Busmans or similar would be the way to go.

[John Willett]

I use the Beyer shocks mentioned on page 1 of this thread. Very light weight and compact, but 55 each. The Rycote 7's are 62 each. Both of these choices can be qualified as effective, but not cheap. I think the original poster wants something under 50 for the pair. The Busmans or similar would be the way to go.

The OP said that he did not want to pay more than $50 each.

[ts]

(preferably $25 if it is quality and not paying for a name) So we're both kinda right.

I always believed that shocks are primarily for isolation from bumps, etc. What effect can they have on sound if any?

[flipp]

John, are any of the Rycote's under $50 ea?  If not I stand by my recommendation of the Avantone SSM. With the pair in the yard @ $40/pr, I don't think anything else can beat them for what the OP wants to spend. They may not be the "best" but they are more than adequate.

[Fried Chicken Boy]

^^ Or the OP could buy the Tensimounts that are being offered in the same sale.  Probably just as effective as the Avantone and half the price.

[George2]

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/301598-REG/PSC_FPSC0035_Universal_Microphone_Shock_Mount.html

[John Willett]

John, are any of the Rycote's under $50 ea? 

Yes - in the UK all the Rycote InVision range are under $50 - they are £30 each.

[flipp]

Lucky you. Here in the states I've always seen them in the $70 range and up, thus my disallowing them in options $50 and under.

[DigiGal]

John, are any of the Rycote's under $50 ea? 

Yes - in the UK all the Rycote InVision range are under $50 - they are £30 each.

Yeah, here in the USA they are selling for $62 universally everywhere which works out to only $24 per pair over budget, but it's worth saving and spending the extra dollars imho.  Rycote INV definitely meets the best sdc shockmounts portion of OP's request, there's not even a close second as far as I'm concerned.

£30 = $47.61 with current exchange rate which is under $50 so they apparently go for less across the pond where they are made and thus meet the full request over there.

[Chimney Top]

i've been using the shure donut mounts for about a week now, and while they are very durable and portable and a good price... i'm finding that Neumann 184's with the XLR connected is too heavy for them.  any solutions besides tilt them forward to compensate/balance?

[John Willett]

i've been using the shure donut mounts for about a week now, and while they are very durable and portable and a good price... i'm finding that Neumann 184's with the XLR connected is too heavy for them.  any solutions besides tilt them forward to compensate/balance?

The Shure donut is probably the second-best shockmount after the Rycote - it is really is very effective.

I would move the mic. so that the centre of gravity is in the centre of the donut - and use a short thin and flexible cable as the output so the weight of the cable won't pull the mic. off-centre.