Topic: Microphone recommendation for recording rock concerts ??

[thomasdrv]

Microphone recommendation for recording rock concerts onto a Sony PCM M1 ??
Phantom 48 mic or directly with a mini jack are both ok.

[aaronji]

^^^  That's a pretty open ended question!  Did you have a budget in mind?  Size?  Polar pattern?  Active?

[thomasdrv]

Budget around 1000-1500 USD........ ( Used ones on ebay is ok )
Size is not that important. Could be as like the size of AKG C747.
Small DPA mic looks nice too

[Hypnocracy]

I'd look on the LMA and see if there is a microphone that stands out to your ears as pleasing. Lots of combinations could be put together for that amount. I'd consider a Naiant Tiny Box V2 as a preamp then you have a lot of choices, some that come to mind:

AKG C460's with a couple of capsule's
Beyer 930's if you like a darker sound
Busman LDC Stereo Microphone BSCS-L or his Active Setup
Audio Technica AT4051's

[twalker]

I'd look on the LMA and see if there is a microphone that stands out to your ears as pleasing. Lots of combinations could be put together for that amount. I'd consider a Naiant Tiny Box V2 as a preamp then you have a lot of choices, some that come to mind:

AKG C460's with a couple of capsule's
Beyer 930's if you like a darker sound
Busman LDC Stereo Microphone BSCS-L or his Active Setup
Audio Technica AT4051's

Agreed.  You cold go with some low voltage mics, a Tinybox and have a battery powered rig that will run for awhile.  Even with 48v mics you old get 7 to 10 hours with a Tinybox.  Your other option would be to pick up the XLR1, or similar Deneke to power mics.

[Teen Age Riot]

What kind of venues?
Do you know from where you will be recording? (Mix position? On stage?)

[George]

open or  ?

[thomasdrv]

What is you're favorite mic HYPNOCRACY ?

I recorded a lot of show in the 80'ies and 90'ies with a Sony WMD6c with Sennheiser MKE 2002. This rig could not handle loud concerts. Some of the jazz concerts i recorded sounds very good

Maybe I can increase my budget if I find a superb mic

[thomasdrv]

http://www.tangible-technology.com/power/Phantom_Power_connect.html

I made myself a powersuply like this when I used Milab mics on my Sony WMD6c

[bryonsos]

What is you're favorite mic HYPNOCRACY ?

I recorded a lot of show in the 80'ies and 90'ies with a Sony WMD6c with Sennheiser MKE 2002. This rig could not handle loud concerts. Some of the jazz concerts i recorded sounds very good

Maybe I can increase my budget if I find a superb mic

His current favorites involve anything in my toy box 

[Hypnocracy]

Microphones Bryon and I have in common in our Took Kit...

AKG 460's Check
Avenson STO-2's Check
ADK TL's CHECK
Nakamichi's CHECK

[rocksuitcase]

thomasdrv, As you can see in my sig line, I also use the AKG 460's with CK1 caps for well over 20 years. Of course, you could and should buy other caps (Ck2 for sure). These mics have proven to be versatile and for sure can handle high SPLs like Rock Concerts. As others have mentioned, of course location and distance from stage/stacks have a lot to do with the overall quiality, but to be prepared for anything in advance I like the AKG C460/480 combo. I would say the Beyer 930 mentioned will do the trick as well. and, of course, those DPAs can handle high SPLs if you can handle the budget!

[bryonsos]

Microphones Bryon and I have in common in our Took Kit...

AKG 460's Check
Avenson STO-2's Check
ADK TL's CHECK
Nakamichi's CHECK

Yeah, we should probably branch out on any future purchases.

[Teen Age Riot]

and, of course, those DPAs can handle high SPLs if you can handle the budget!

I would not recommend the 4060's for rock n roll if you're near a loud PA or a loud sub specifically. They will distort. (I found out the hard way.) If you record from further back, it won't be an issue, but being omnidirectional, it may not sound that great.

[rocksuitcase]

and, of course, those DPAs can handle high SPLs if you can handle the budget!

I would not recommend the 4060's for rock n roll if you're near a loud PA or a loud sub specifically. They will distort. (I found out the hard way.) If you record from further back, it won't be an issue, but being omnidirectional, it may not sound that great.

Wouldn't the distortion be more a function of the pre amplifier, rather than the microphone sensitivity? I do not use DPAs so do not know the differences between models very well, but for almost any microphone, distortion on the recording can be the outcome of a few things (pre amp, HP/LP filters, recorder quality, mic sensitivity, etc).