Topic: Next Mics?

[bluegrass_brad]

The AT LD mics are primarily designed for near field recording and have a boost in the high mids and then it starts to roll off the highs after about 10k or so.  These perform great right up at the source, but not necessarily so for PA recording.

[Nick's Picks]

what about an older pair of 414buls?
now thats a good LD multi pattern for taping PAs

[charles]

The AT LD mics are primarily designed for near field recording and have a boost in the high mids and then it starts to roll off the highs after about 10k or so.  These perform great right up at the source, but not necessarily so for PA recording.

Thanks for the info Brad. I did not know that. +T

what about an older pair of 414buls?
now thats a good LD multi pattern for taping PAs

I love the sound of 414's......but how much would I expect to throw down on a pair of used 414's?

[thegreatgumbino]

From page one

I say spend a little more and get Rustle's pair of 414's:

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=53154.0

I think he wanted $1,050 for the pair?

[Nick's Picks]

thats an ok price.
but I think I bought my pair new from the oades for not much more.  maybe $1275 or so.
so...shop around.  eBay is a good source for these.  dont worry about buying individuals. they are matched close enough to tape with easily.

[charles]

Allright. Thanks to everyone for their input. Very helpfull.

In the end, I've decided on a matched pair of ADK TL's. For the price, they seem to be the best choice. I like the sound, and I love the 4 polar patterns.

Now on to deciding the pre, a/d conv. , etc.



+T again to all!

[keepongoin]

a warm mod or p-mod ua5 would probably sound great.

[charles]

a warm mod or p-mod ua5 would probably sound great.

That's what I'm leaning toward right now. Would love the V3, but it's out of my range. As for a recording device, I have no idea which way I'm going.

[charles]

Andy...just out of curiosity, have you ever run your TL's Blumlein? If so, how were the results?

[Brian Skalinder]

Would love the V3, but it's out of my range.

W or W+ UA5 would sound mighty fine, if you like the V3.  And at less than half the cost!  Even the T or T+, though I think the W's closer to the V3's sound.

[charles]

Thanks for the advice Brian.

[Tim]

I would not go with the TLs if you are doing smaller venues. Had the TLs for awhile and never really liked them in the smaller venues. Had to be close to get a good tape.

I'm confused - if you found that the TL's sounded better up close why didn't you like them in small venues?

[keepongoin]

Andy...just out of curiosity, have you ever run your TL's Blumlein? If so, how were the results?

i have indeed: http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=15717

really happy with the sound, but i love the spaced omnis even more.

i taped a patterson hood show from the stage-lip blumlein 2004-06-03 - maybe i can dig that one up from my archive of shows and share it.


in terms of recorders - are you concerned with going 24-bit, or will you be happy to stick with 16-bit?  I am thinking about selling one or both of my JB3s.

[charles]

Andy...just out of curiosity, have you ever run your TL's Blumlein? If so, how were the results?

i have indeed: http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=15717

really happy with the sound, but i love the spaced omnis even more.

i taped a patterson hood show from the stage-lip blumlein 2004-06-03 - maybe i can dig that one up from my archive of shows and share it.


in terms of recorders - are you concerned with going 24-bit, or will you be happy to stick with 16-bit?  I am thinking about selling one or both of my JB3s.

Actually, I'm very interested in a JB3. I've got another thread going in regards to recording devices....DAT, Laptop, etc. But I have been thinking about it, and with my financial resources, a JB3 makes the most sense. As much as I'd like to complicate things with some new exciting recording device.....it's probably a bad idea. Let me know if you're selling a JB3.

[alienbobz]

I would not go with the TLs if you are doing smaller venues. Had the TLs for awhile and never really liked them in the smaller venues. Had to be close to get a good tape.

I'm confused - if you found that the TL's sounded better up close why didn't you like them in small venues?

The problem I had with a lot of these smaller venues was the PA. Even when I was close, the tape didn't turn out that well in these rooms. What I found was that the PA and the band had to be "loud" for the sound to be great. I know there are a few shows that I taped were I was about 10' from the speakers and the recording turned out not that good (mostly do to the fact that these were solo singer/songwriter bands). The TL's do rock blumlein though. Had one recording really good hyper tape, and a few good on-stage (blumlein, cards) tapes. My other good tapes were at the venues with a bigger PA.